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Title: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: GTRTONY on June 21, 2011, 12:10:11 PM
hi

can anyone please advise where i can purchase online a spare set of gtr1400 bulbs in a protective box for a planned tour of europe

tony
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: Kwikasfuki on June 21, 2011, 12:41:56 PM
The ones I purchased were well boxed.
Check out this thread

http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,394.0.html
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: fatharry on June 21, 2011, 02:45:33 PM
I got spare lamps from Halfords...they are well boxed...pop in a small tupperware container with some bubble wrap...hey presto!! ;D....ps you only need one main light and one indicator lamp ;D
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: Andy on June 21, 2011, 03:27:40 PM
I've seen H4 based kits in Pound Shop, good enough for spot checks :-) My OE H4's are sat in cupboard, I've had Philips lamps in from new.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5073/5877382894_4f3c4870f5_z.jpg)
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: Boomer on June 21, 2011, 06:39:29 PM
A friend got pulled in France and they got really upset that he didn't have a spare tail-light bulb.
When he pointed out that they were LED's the cop went quiet and soon waved him on his way.
You also have to have a Hi-Vis jacket or waistcoat with you in France.
Emergency triangle is not required (is for cars) but you still have to carry an approved 1st Aid kit.
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: ChrisB on June 21, 2011, 10:10:55 PM
I got one from Aldi for £3.50. Its a car kit in a plastic case so it has 2 of everything. Cheap and nasty but enough to satisfy the police requirements.
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: Hans on June 21, 2011, 11:16:43 PM
GTRTONY: Why? You can buy bulbs anywhere?  ;D
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: Hans on June 21, 2011, 11:18:40 PM
Quote from: Boomer on June 21, 2011, 06:39:29 PM
A friend got pulled in France and they got really upset that he didn't have a spare tail-light bulb.
When he pointed out that they were LED's the cop went quiet and soon waved him on his way.
You also have to have a Hi-Vis jacket or waistcoat with you in France.
Emergency triangle is not required (is for cars) but you still have to carry an approved 1st Aid kit.

Hmmm... strange! Those rules dont apply for bikers... only cars!  (ie. Hi-Vis jacket etc.)
And that goes for 1st Aid kit as well...
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: fatharry on June 22, 2011, 01:16:22 PM
Quote from: mosegaard on June 21, 2011, 11:18:40 PM
Hmmm... strange! Those rules dont apply for bikers... only cars!  (ie. Hi-Vis jacket etc.)
And that goes for 1st Aid kit as well...

Nope.......Hi Vis Jackets, spare lamps, first aid kits are required by bikers...its just the Breakdown triangle that isn't ... but more to the point, why wouldn't you carry these items on tour with you in the first place

If your Headlight dies on a sunday in France......well then you can't buy a bulb from anywhere...in factg you can't buy a bulb anywhere at all!!.......think about the areas most bikers go in France, often rural, and very often 'closed' ;D
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: GTRTONY on June 22, 2011, 04:49:40 PM
Quote from: fatharry on June 22, 2011, 01:16:22 PM
Nope.......Hi Vis Jackets, spare lamps, first aid kits are required by bikers...its just the Breakdown triangle that isn't ... but more to the point, why wouldn't you carry these items on tour with you in the first place

If your Headlight dies on a sunday in France......well then you can't buy a bulb from anywhere...in factg you can't buy a bulb anywhere at all!!.......think about the areas most bikers go in France, often rural, and very often 'closed' ;D

yes that's what I've heard. the reason for the box etc is somewhere to keep them safe in case I do need them rather than making something myself. was just wondering if anyone out there knows of such a kit. as it is mentioned they do them for cars so why not for bikes?!! ???
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: Hans on June 22, 2011, 05:29:34 PM
Fatharry:  Hmmm... strange! Rules dont apply for others than UK residents. I just checked with the Danish Foreign Ministry (transport & service) and they said that this ONLY applies to cars and trucks.

Regarding the purchase of bulbs in france or anywhere else (on the other side) - there are so many, large and well equipped service stations that sell standard H4 bulbs - it's not a problem. And incidentally, there is also mounted not less than 2 units H4 bulbs in our glorious GTR1400 machine ... surely one of them will survive? Or?   ;D

Driving Touring is not about to burden and overwhelm our beloved motorcycle with a lot of equipment that you do not need. And besides, it is possible to have roadside assistance anywhere. Why all that gear? Was it not something you did back in the 70s?  :P
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: mecki on June 22, 2011, 06:29:42 PM
So what do people do with cars/bikes with closed units for headlights where you can't replace the bulb? Do they have to carry a whole light unit with them?
Who comes up with such stupid rules?
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: fatharry on June 22, 2011, 06:48:26 PM
Hans....I suspect it is different rules for the Danes ......

Handy link fo those who are interested
http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/uploads/suzuki_pre_tour_euro_rules.pdf

Says lamps are recommended for France but not compulsory, but seeing as daytime running lights are compulsory....the police take a dim view if one has failed...despite the fact that the other is working. Personally if you want to take a chance on a petrol station being open......then crack on my friend, I think you've been to a different part of France to me.....rural France, mostly everything closes 12-2 everyday, all day sunday.....petrol stations are just pumps unless you are in Large city, no shop...no bike spares, no coffee...just petrol. First aid kit is now compulsory in most European countries .... So if I were you I'd always carry one

Touring is in part about being prepared.... First aid kit, hi viz and bulbs take up very little space...despite the nay sayers, these should be carried, especially if you're roaming through more than one country....like from denmark to France, where you would have to pass through Germany, where first aid kits and bulbs are a legal requirement ..... And hi viz must be worn at the side of a road in France (accident or breakdown).... So just take em....or not.....but you take your chances and could be handed an on the spot fine ;D
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: fatharry on June 22, 2011, 06:53:13 PM
Which bike has sealed headlight units......?

The tail/brake light before you mention is and led unit an theoretically should never fail....if it stops working, it's considered a breakdown and should be fixed!....I believe
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: mecki on June 22, 2011, 07:19:14 PM
I don't know for sure if bikes have sealed units, but I thought my 1250 Bandit actually did have one.
But I never had to change a light bulb on a bike yet.
I know that nearly all modern cars have them these days, though.

But if the frogs have such stupid rules I better buy a car bulb kit at Aldi before I go over next month.
I wear a hi-viz jacket anyway, but that with the 1st aid kit can't be right.
Where do all those French sports bike riders hide them? It sure won't fit under the seat.
Even though it won't help them much when they come off since most of those idiots whizz around in jeans and t-shirt.
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: Boomer on June 22, 2011, 09:34:17 PM
These days only cars with HID headlights have sealed unit headlamps, and not all of those either.
Incandescent headlamps used sealed units in the 70's but these were dropped as WAY too expensive.

Spare bulbs, 1st aid kit, and hi-vis are sensible things to take along.
They take very little room on the bike.
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: mecki on June 23, 2011, 10:07:30 AM
Well, Boomer, I am more concerned about running out of petrol in the middle of nowhere than blowing a bulb so I always take a full 5l petrol cannister with me. That gives me an extra 50 Miles travel radius. I travel without a pillion so one pannier is reserved for tools, spare clear visor, spare gloves and boots, battery charger and what else may come handy. I'll add the bulbs and even a first aid kit from now on to avoid trouble as well.
And if I really need more space I can always strap a sports bag on the pillion seat. I found that actually improves the wind flow since there is no big gap between my back and the topcase anymore. My 1250 Bandit would go nearly 20km/h faster on the Autobahn and used less gas loaded up that way too.
With the extra 5l petrol I can also make it through Holland all the way to Luxemburg without having to buy their over-priced fuel (€1.70/l in May while in South Belgium and Luxemburg it was only €1.33) and on the way back it is similar since the petrol prices in France are nearly as high as in Holland. Well, and if I am riding on a Sunday in rural France I can always make it to the next town with an open pump without having to worry.
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: fatharry on June 23, 2011, 10:19:47 AM
Quote from: mecki on June 23, 2011, 10:07:30 AM
Well, Boomer, I am more concerned about running out of petrol in the middle of nowhere than blowing a bulb so I always take a full 5l petrol cannister with me. That gives me an extra 50 Miles travel radius. I travel without a pillion so one pannier is reserved for tools, spare clear visor, spare gloves and boots, battery charger and what else may come handy. I'll add the bulbs and even a first aid kit from now on to avoid trouble as well.
And if I really need more space I can always strap a sports bag on the pillion seat. I found that actually improves the wind flow since there is no big gap between my back and the topcase anymore. My 1250 Bandit would go nearly 20km/h faster on the Autobahn and used less gas loaded up that way too.
With the extra 5l petrol I can also make it through Holland all the way to Luxemburg without having to buy their over-priced fuel (€1.70/l in May while in South Belgium and Luxemburg it was only €1.33) and on the way back it is similar since the petrol prices in France are nearly as high as in Holland. Well, and if I am riding on a Sunday in rural France I can always make it to the next town with an open pump without having to worry.

sounds like you have it all planned ...... even when the shops are closed, a fairly good selection stations have pay at pump machines...you should always be able get something (carry either a prepaid credit card or just a normal one)...the only difference when in places like southern france is when i start to look for a refill......i'll normally start to look for petrol at 150m under normal circumstances, but in particularly rural areas i'll change that to 100m......rule of thumb, fill up where you can ;D
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: Kwikasfuki on June 23, 2011, 10:28:12 AM
Jeez, France sounds like what the UK was on a Sunday in the 70s.
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: mecki on June 23, 2011, 12:03:41 PM
Well, OTOH that way most people don't have to work on Sundays and can spend time with their family.
BTW it's the same in Germany - forget shopping on Sundays!
And as far as the locals are concerned, they are used to it and enjoy the day off.
It's all in the eye of the beholder.
;D
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: Kwikasfuki on June 23, 2011, 12:36:13 PM
True. I'm just used to living in the "now" society. Instant news, access to products etc.
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: fatharry on June 23, 2011, 03:49:37 PM
Quote from: mecki on June 23, 2011, 12:03:41 PM
Well, OTOH that way most people don't have to work on Sundays and can spend time with their family.
BTW it's the same in Germany - forget shopping on Sundays!
And as far as the locals are concerned, they are used to it and enjoy the day off.
It's all in the eye of the beholder.
;D

I used to love sundays in Germany...it was the one day of the week i knew i always had time to catch up with my mates....technically its still illegal to wash your car in Germany on a sunday..... ;D
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: ChrisB on June 23, 2011, 07:22:13 PM
France is a great place for bikes. I can't recommend it enough. The RAC website says that spare bulbs are compulsory, no hi viz jackets or triangles required (yet). Beam deflectors are recommended if only to show wiliing to the local police. Just go!
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: Ubertours on June 23, 2011, 07:50:26 PM
Germany. Although Lidl/Aldi and the like do indeed stay closed on Sundays, petrol stations are open as usual.I'm here six months of the year and have never had a problem getting fuel. Can't wash the car or cut the grass though.
Title: Re: spare bulb kit for travelling abroad
Post by: Hans on June 23, 2011, 09:19:05 PM
Quote from: fatharry on June 22, 2011, 06:48:26 PM
Hans....I suspect it is different rules for the Danes ......

Handy link fo those who are interested
http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/uploads/suzuki_pre_tour_euro_rules.pdf

Says lamps are recommended for France but not compulsory, but seeing as daytime running lights are compulsory....the police take a dim view if one has failed...despite the fact that the other is working. Personally if you want to take a chance on a petrol station being open......then crack on my friend, I think you've been to a different part of France to me.....rural France, mostly everything closes 12-2 everyday, all day sunday.....petrol stations are just pumps unless you are in Large city, no shop...no bike spares, no coffee...just petrol. First aid kit is now compulsory in most European countries .... So if I were you I'd always carry one

Touring is in part about being prepared.... First aid kit, hi viz and bulbs take up very little space...despite the nay sayers, these should be carried, especially if you're roaming through more than one country....like from denmark to France, where you would have to pass through Germany, where first aid kits and bulbs are a legal requirement ..... And hi viz must be worn at the side of a road in France (accident or breakdown).... So just take em....or not.....but you take your chances and could be handed an on the spot fine ;D

No! No special rules for danes... This list is up-to-date:
http://www.sikkerhedsvest.dk/

There are 3. countries marked for rules apply for bikers as well... those are
Belgium, Slovakia and Montenegro.

I wonder why that information given to the British is different from the Nordic countries. Since I only live 1 hour from germany and drive about the country frequently, I can also confirm that it is NOT a legal obligation to carry out such effects for bikers. Only trucks and cars!

One is the statutory requirement and something else is reasonable. Whether people choose to bring unnecessary things is completely up to them.