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Off Topic => General Discussion => Topic started by: GTRpilot on June 25, 2016, 09:30:21 PM

Title: Brexit.
Post by: GTRpilot on June 25, 2016, 09:30:21 PM
3 days have passed, everyone okay?  :whistling:
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: gpink on June 25, 2016, 09:46:51 PM
Hearing a bit of whining over here when the Dow dropped 600. Be interesting to see how quick it'll bounce back. Other than that the sun still rose in the east this morning.
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: Debs on June 25, 2016, 11:09:39 PM
You would think the world was coming to an end, by the way some of these children are throwing their toys outta their prams..

  :gunsmilie: :gun_bandana: :gun_bandana:

Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: PRD on June 26, 2016, 01:58:01 AM
A diasterous decision has been made. It is one that will be in time regretted.
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: O.C. on June 26, 2016, 07:30:52 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/yes-minister-explains-brexit_uk_576e92a8e4b0232d331e0fa8?edition=uk&ir=UK+Politics&section=uk_politics&utm_hp_ref=uk-politics 
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: viper on June 26, 2016, 11:12:37 AM
I thought it was a vote to keep the england football team in the euro's, i think I might have made a mistake
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: BigAlan on June 26, 2016, 11:39:17 AM
Quote from: viper on June 26, 2016, 11:12:37 AM
I thought it was a vote to keep the england football team in the euro's, i think I might have made a mistake

We're still in the Euro until late Monday night then Iceland will rule.

Are we going back to pounds, shilling and pence again? I used to like the old half crown and tanner, not keen on the thrupenny bit though.

Alan
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: beegee on June 26, 2016, 11:51:27 AM
World is in shock...
Instead of getting united maybe first time a region/country want a 'divorce' and making life harder...
Even since a new agreement to be special with lot of advantages was already ok....

Strange, but on the continent we only saw and read bout few hard yelling politicians want to go out of EU cause it only cost money and they wanted to give it to health department, what nobody here believed that caus we know what politicians (dont) do... :punk:

Only few people believed it could go wrong, but when i read reactions here i was only one here who said it could go wrong...

Now we hear and read here that many  britans are also shocked cause leaving EU and so biggest part of europe too and that probably some things can be changed or will go veeeery slow...

Anyway, hope you can still come over easily, hopefully with your imported bike👍
It will only cost a lot more since the £ dropped enormously and guess it will not be better fast...
Take care

Ps we can come visit much cheaper , thx :punk:

Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: virginiajim on June 26, 2016, 01:52:11 PM
Quote from: BigAlan on June 26, 2016, 11:39:17 AM
We're still in the Euro until late Monday night then Iceland will rule.

Are we going back to pounds, shilling and pence again? I used to like the old half crown and tanner, not keen on the thrupenny bit though.

Alan

I loved the thrupenny bit!  Loved to say it.  Loved to have it my hand.  Can you still get them?

Stock market did tank and probably will tank some more but it will come back.  There's no real reason it did other than just because..
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: O.C. on June 26, 2016, 02:14:21 PM
The dust will settle, and all will be well in the camp, at the moment there's lots of foot stamping going on  :yes:   
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: shaggs147 on June 26, 2016, 02:47:54 PM
I like the idea of having close ties with the rest of Europe, but it just seemed as if it has become bloated and as corrupt as uefa.... there's a lot of European politicians making a tidy sum. You can have free trade and a reasonable amount of free movement of labour etc as long as each country has a bit of control over it too, without paying huge sums of money in to prop everyone else up. It either needs the power of Brussels to be slimmed down, or go all out and just have a United States of Europe with one central government..... now that would be a headache to sort out lol.

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Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: Lonewolf on June 26, 2016, 06:59:52 PM
Quote from: PRD on June 26, 2016, 01:58:01 AM
A diasterous decision has been made. It is one that will be in time regretted.


Are you going on about me buying the K1600 again.  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: beegee on June 26, 2016, 11:20:23 PM
Maybe thx of what happened, many european politicians now want a newer better europe for the people... Hope they now will open their eyes and listen to the people as well
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: shaggs147 on June 26, 2016, 11:50:08 PM
Definitely..... I think it's a huge wake up call for them and will benefit the people of the other EU countries in the long run.

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Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: Debs on June 27, 2016, 12:43:03 AM
This is interesting..

https://www.facebook.com/DemocraziaVerde/videos/275977272757274/?pnref=story
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: O.C. on June 27, 2016, 09:30:33 AM
Yes Debs, that is interesting, very interesting in fact.

Brexit has brought many questions to the minds of many countries involvement with the EU.  :yes:

And now Blair, Sturgeon and others want to re-think the result,  and potentially block Brexit....only because it would expose them for their pocket lining  activities   :gun_bandana: 

Blair is about as safe as a lit candle in a firework factory   


Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: GTRpilot on June 27, 2016, 10:02:36 AM
Wait for the Chillcott report to come out, Mr Blair may have a few question's to answer, I would prefer it a court appearance though. No doubt he will be coated in Teflon  :censored:
Sturgeon is sabre rattling, trying not to be left out of the news about the referendum, I think she is after a quick referendum before the people see the real benefits start to emerge from leaving the EU.
I think they are to far down the line of saying the result must stand to go back and attempt to change it......but I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw them, when their own interest's are at heart  :censored:
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: virginiajim on June 27, 2016, 12:40:46 PM
Quote from: The Wolf on June 26, 2016, 06:59:52 PM

Are you going on about me buying the K1600 again.  :mfr_lol:

:mfr_lol:

Quote from: Birdpilot on June 27, 2016, 10:02:36 AM
Wait for the Chillcott report to come out, Mr Blair may have a few question's to answer, I would prefer it a court appearance though. No doubt he will be coated in Teflon  :censored:

We had a teflon President once....Ronald Reagan.  Very well liked for the most part.  I'd vote for him again even though he passed away some years back.  Just liked him.
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: gpink on June 27, 2016, 01:09:57 PM
We also had Slick Willie.
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: Kawdolph on June 27, 2016, 07:11:37 PM
And todays silly trivia what was the biggest google search in the uk after the brexit result ,what is the eu.
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: Charlie747 on June 27, 2016, 08:26:54 PM
Quote from: Kawdolph on June 27, 2016, 07:11:37 PM
And todays silly trivia what was the biggest google search in the uk after the brexit result ,what is the eu.

:mfr_lol:

Quote from: virginiajim on June 27, 2016, 12:40:46 PM
:mfr_lol:

We had a teflon President once....Ronald Reagan.  Very well liked for the most part.  I'd vote for him again even though he passed away some years back.  Just liked him.

He would be a very relaxed President in his dead state Jim 🍻🍻🍻🍻😃
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: O.C. on June 27, 2016, 08:39:38 PM
Quote from: Charlie747 on June 27, 2016, 08:26:54 PM
:mfr_lol:

He would be a very relaxed President in his dead state Jim 🍻🍻🍻🍻😃

wot.???...Reagan dead ?........when did that happen ?  :mfr_lol: 
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: virginiajim on June 27, 2016, 10:19:01 PM
I'm sure he's not aware of it either.
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: beegee on June 27, 2016, 10:29:50 PM
Dont know if here are some financial people : but after the 'leave' at the EC in France , Uk lost some credibility in world too as expected. Meaning borrowing money will be more expensive for british people.  Also borrowing by government will be more expensive...
£ is still going lower, meaning imported goods will be more expensive too. Or going on holidays on the continent...

"S&P Global Ratings cut the U.K.'s top credit grade by two levels after the country voted to leave the European Union last week.

S&P lowered the rating to AA from AAA, citing the risk of a less predictable, stable, and effective policy framework in the U.K. The cut also "reflects the risks of a marked deterioration of external financing conditions" and constitutional issues arising from the majority of voters in Scotland and Northern Ireland having opted to remain in the EU."
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: O.C. on June 27, 2016, 10:32:30 PM
expected short term measures  :yes: 

Britain has huge financial reserves, unlike many of its soon to be past EU member states
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: Boomer on June 27, 2016, 11:33:25 PM
Quote from: O.C. on June 27, 2016, 10:32:30 PM
expected short term measures  :yes: 

Britain has huge financial reserves, unlike many of its soon to be past EU member states
If we have these "huge financial reserves" why do we as a country owe £1.7 TRILLION?
Like many I pray that the economy will recover, but I very much doubt it.
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: PRD on June 28, 2016, 01:49:04 AM
Quote from: Boomer on June 27, 2016, 11:33:25 PM
If we have these "huge financial reserves" why do we as a country owe £1.7 TRILLION?
Like many I pray that the economy will recover, but I very much doubt it.
i agree
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: O.C. on June 28, 2016, 07:28:45 AM
Quote from: Boomer on June 27, 2016, 11:33:25 PM
If we have these "huge financial reserves" why do we as a country owe £1.7 TRILLION?
Like many I pray that the economy will recover, but I very much doubt it.

I'm certainly not an economist George, and therefore I'm ill equipped to factually answer your question.

But I suspect that the Trillions that the country owes are a different thing to the reserves that the country has, in much the same way as any manufacturing business may owe money in respect of its manufacturing costs, raw materials etc., but still have assets in premises, stock etc, most businesses have trading debts, I think that in respect of a country its what's referred to as GDP ? ....maybe that's a strange comparison but it might provide some sort of explanation.

Any business will have trading debts whilst at the same time owning assets those debts are often greater in a manufacturing base

Perhaps our contributions to the EU have, in the past also contributed to the national debt  :whistling: 
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: GTRpilot on June 28, 2016, 12:35:59 PM
On the upside, I had breakfast this morning, as usual, walked the dogs and rode my GTR, every cloud......... :smartass:
:listencarefully: will it effect the "Ordinary people" the political elite keep referring to, or just the corporates, banker's, big business's etc? Does anybody know or is it just speculation until / if they pull the trigger on article 50. Bit like the immediate budget after the referendum which would mean increased everything according to Osborne, apparently now it may be in autumn.
One thing I think will happen, we'll have a second referendum  :censored:
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: Phill_York on June 28, 2016, 02:21:48 PM
Quote from: Birdpilot on June 28, 2016, 12:35:59 PM
On the upside, I had breakfast this morning, as usual, walked the dogs and rode my GTR, every cloud......... :smartass:
:listencarefully: will it effect the "Ordinary people" the political elite keep referring to, or just the corporates, banker's, big business's etc? Does anybody know or is it just speculation until / if they pull the trigger on article 50. Bit like the immediate budget after the referendum which would mean increased everything according to Osborne, apparently now it may be in autumn.
One thing I think will happen, we'll have a second referendum  :censored:

:agree:
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: gpink on June 28, 2016, 02:31:27 PM
If a second referendum goes the other way will you do two out of three or best of five?
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: Phill_York on June 28, 2016, 02:47:12 PM
I always thought that if we voted out, there would be an option for genuine concessions that they were too scared to give Cameron when he first asked.  It would then be worth another vote if we can keep the good bits (free trade) and lose the bad bits (uncontrolled immigration and closer integration) but it relies on the EU recognising that their days are numbered and salvaging something. However, being practical and pragmatic isn't one of their strengths  :banana:
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: O.C. on June 28, 2016, 02:58:08 PM
If there was to be a second referendum the damage to the economy caused by uncertainty could be catastrophic
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: Debs on June 28, 2016, 03:37:26 PM
Cameron has already said that the result stands and there won't be a 2nd refferendum
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: GTRpilot on June 28, 2016, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: Debs on June 28, 2016, 03:37:26 PM
Cameron has already said that the result stands and there won't be a 2nd refferendum

Hmmmm, but what about his successor  :undecided:
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: Charlie747 on June 28, 2016, 11:05:32 PM
The USD is king when it comes to international business.

We as a nation are net importers.

The Sterling / USD rate is the only thing that is important, that is what will control our economy as it will control the retail price of the majority of items we take for granted as we use them in our daily lives.

Decision has been made by the people.

We need to get on and show the world we have the backbone to implement that result with the minimum of delay so allowing the markets to regain confidence and to minimise the damage done by speculators to our quality of life.

The art of good management is to make decisions with the best information available at that time. Then monitor and review.

From what I've seen over recent weeks the nation has had its decision making head mushroomed managed by all sides.

In or out matters not as the 23rd has come and gone the result is known so..................

Why are the inhabitants of The Palace of Westminster not pulling together for the good of our great nation instead of furthering their own career ambitions?



Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: virginiajim on June 28, 2016, 11:13:52 PM
Good points...
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: O.C. on June 29, 2016, 06:50:22 AM
Agreed, let's show that as a country we can manage this situation and move forward, we have, as a country, the ability to remain one of the worlds great power houses  :yes:   
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: GTRpilot on June 29, 2016, 09:43:09 AM
It might help if we removed some members from the Palace of Westminster  :whistling:
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: O.C. on June 29, 2016, 10:39:09 AM
Quote from: Birdpilot on June 29, 2016, 09:43:09 AM
It might help if we removed some members from the Palace of Westminster  :whistling:


ooooh what a splendid idea  :mfr_lol: 
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: Phill_York on June 29, 2016, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: Birdpilot on June 29, 2016, 09:43:09 AM
It might help if we removed some members from the Palace of Westminster  :whistling:

Where is Guy Fawkes when you need him  :banana:
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: Rusty on June 29, 2016, 11:03:24 AM
A little late to this thread but I was out on the decking drinking a bottle of Moet to celebrate. I see that we are all still here, the world has not come to an end and sadly there are those throwing teddies all over the place. The people have spoken and we live in a democracy. Thank goodness for those simple pleasures that we all take for granted.
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: Debs on June 29, 2016, 02:57:13 PM
This guy talks a lot of sense and I completely agree with hm.

https://www.facebook.com/adam.zillin/videos/10157075566520402/
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: O.C. on June 29, 2016, 03:33:07 PM
His views are honest, factual and refreshing  :yes: 
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: virginiajim on July 01, 2016, 12:28:25 PM
Our stock market is on the mend.  I knew it wouldn't last.   :banana:
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: gpink on July 01, 2016, 12:49:08 PM
I thought politics was nasty on this side of the water but I do believe our pols have been shown up as amateurs by your various party leaders. 
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: O.C. on July 01, 2016, 02:34:32 PM
Quote from: gpink on July 01, 2016, 12:49:08 PM
I thought politics was nasty on this side of the water but I do believe our pols have been shown up as amateurs by your various party leaders.

The  :shit: was bound to hit the fan sooner or later  :mfr_lol: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZdp46Jen_w
Title: Re: Brexit.
Post by: iamkwackers on July 01, 2016, 04:17:53 PM
Captivating times.....you couldn't write this script...  :mfr_lol:  Thank goodness I am in Wales for the weekend   :clap:

I have packed my passport just in case   :mfr_lol:  :mfr_lol: