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Title: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Hans on June 13, 2011, 09:20:50 PM
Hello gents....

I'm about to (perhaps) re-colour my fine black GTR1400... into Perl White (BMW). Before I do this colourchange I need to know a few things...

Would the "Kawasaki" letters on the left/right cowl be unmounted easily- and what about the "GTR1400" letters on the side-cowl? Does anyone know about this?

Please...No guesswork or "I think "....    ;D

It would be some-sort-of look-alike this one... except that I will preserve the lower part black
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Kwikasfuki on June 13, 2011, 10:44:23 PM
I've no ideas about the decals but I too want to spray my bike into a different colour.

Edit: might pay these chaps a visit this weekend to get a quote or two
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Nygie on June 14, 2011, 05:56:01 PM
Usually double sided sticky stuff!
Hot air gun normally gets them off....carefully mind!
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Lonewolf on June 14, 2011, 08:28:57 PM
That does look good.
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Cartman on June 14, 2011, 08:35:12 PM
Quote from: Nygie on June 14, 2011, 05:56:01 PM
Usually double sided sticky stuff!
Hot air gun normally gets them off....carefully mind!

yup every bike/car that came through the body shop where I used to work  decals came off like this, but seldom were reusable as the glue is a one shot deal.
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Hans on June 14, 2011, 09:00:53 PM
Well... untill now only guesswork or "I think "....    ::)

I'll strip the side-cowl tomorrow and have a look.....

Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Kawdolph on June 14, 2011, 09:14:57 PM
Take a photo and dimensions of decals any going car /sign maker will be able to make up roughly the same set.
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Hans on June 14, 2011, 10:24:53 PM
...and more nice photo's of "white edition".....

Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Nygie on June 14, 2011, 10:36:35 PM
looks more like bright silver  ;D
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Kwikasfuki on June 15, 2011, 12:09:11 AM
I'll be visiting these guys this weekend to get a quote for a respray:

http://www.imagerefinishers.co.uk/home.htm
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Hans on June 15, 2011, 08:59:22 PM
Quote from: Norman Bates on June 15, 2011, 12:09:11 AM
I'll be visiting these guys this weekend to get a quote for a respray:

http://www.imagerefinishers.co.uk/home.htm

...and you would respray into what colour?
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Kwikasfuki on June 15, 2011, 10:24:45 PM
Quote from: mosegaard on June 15, 2011, 08:59:22 PM
...and you would respray into what colour?

Dunno.

Pear white
yellow
burgundy
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Rusty on June 15, 2011, 10:27:59 PM
Yellow ? That's kinky.
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Kwikasfuki on June 15, 2011, 10:44:25 PM
Quote from: Lord Rusty on June 15, 2011, 10:27:59 PM
Yellow ? That's kinky.

;D
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Lonewolf on June 16, 2011, 08:13:00 PM

How will respraying the GTR a non standard colour such as white affect its resale or px value?
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Kwikasfuki on June 18, 2011, 06:25:21 PM
Right got a quote today. £1350 (£1100 without panniers)

Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: fred24 on June 19, 2011, 10:26:43 AM
Have you thought about the coloured vinyl option I beleive it is cheaper than a respray. Never seen it on a bike (knowingly) but it looks OK on the cars and vans you see on the road.

It also allows you to revert back to the original colour scheme when you come to sell.

Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Lonewolf on June 20, 2011, 08:26:40 PM
Quote from: Norman Bates on June 18, 2011, 06:25:21 PM
Right got a quote today. £1350 (£1100 without panniers)


:o Ouch! For that sort of cash I'll be changing the colour of my bike when I change the bike.
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Kwikasfuki on June 22, 2011, 07:48:34 PM
After thinking about it, 1350 is too much. If it was around the 600 mark I'd consider it.
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Hans on January 28, 2014, 06:43:06 PM
Price for complete re-color into RAL9003 Traffic White with dual clear top-coat, black powder coat center stand and black powder coat for front- and rear wheel dkr. 6.000,-  (£661 or EUR 804).

*AND* I keep getting FILE ERROR when trying to upload!! Any clues why?????? (pic format okay... size okay....)
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: viper on January 28, 2014, 06:59:42 PM
Im currently in the process of buying up spare panels for the GTR, im going to get them painted and then do a swap over. £1350 does sound very expensive .

I used a mobile paint guy who resprayed the front wing on my xr4i , he did it under a mobile booth with infra red heaters , Im gonna get a quote of him. It will be cheaper im sure if he takes away the panels , plus I can prep them myself. The wing was £180 which included paint.  He also repsrayed my mercs bumper for £60 and the finsih is as good as original

Id be happy with the same finish I got on my xr4,its really good. plus I could pay a bit extra for some extra layers or clear coat.
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: BigAlan on January 28, 2014, 08:03:01 PM
Asif, when were up there in the summer let me know what colour you want and I will bring some can's we can sort it in less than an hour no problem..

Alan
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Ant on January 28, 2014, 08:32:57 PM
Quote from: viper on January 28, 2014, 06:59:42 PM
Im currently in the process of buying up spare panels for the GTR, im going to get them painted and then do a swap over. £1350 does sound very expensive .

I used a mobile paint guy who resprayed the front wing on my xr4i , he did it under a mobile booth with infra red heaters , Im gonna get a quote of him. It will be cheaper im sure if he takes away the panels , plus I can prep them myself. The wing was £180 which included paint.  He also repsrayed my mercs bumper for £60 and the finsih is as good as original

Id be happy with the same finish I got on my xr4,its really good. plus I could pay a bit extra for some extra layers or clear coat.

Sounds like you have the ZG virus ?   :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: viper on January 28, 2014, 08:38:20 PM
Quote from: Ant on January 28, 2014, 08:32:57 PM
Sounds like you have the ZG virus ?   :mfr_lol:

actually i gave him the idea last year  :whistling:
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Deon on January 29, 2014, 05:47:56 AM
"Would the "Kawasaki" letters on the left/right cowl be unmounted easily- and what about the "GTR1400" letters on the side-cowl? Does anyone know about this?"


The decals will not stick again after you have taken them off. You will have to buy some new ones ( very expensive ) or have some decals made.

Deon
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Ant on January 29, 2014, 07:05:46 AM
If your considering re-spraying your bike , the decals are cheap in comparison.

Most graphic and print shops can make them for you, or get them made.

In my game I have to source them occasionally, and yes they seem expensive, but not compared to a respray.

They will come off as said before with a heat gun and some gentle persuasion, but be careful and patient as the ' proud letters ' will continue to absorb heat once you move the gun away -so take your time so you don't distort the plastic.

'Asif ' can even get his own ones off the web Here (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-Kawasaki-Kwikasfuki-Ninja-Vinyl-Graphic-Bike-Sticker-/170837818150)     :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: ZG on January 29, 2014, 02:38:39 PM
You can't re-use the badges, but you can buy new ones and paint them any color you want, that's what I did.  :smiley:

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/eporiewk_zps582f3591.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/eporiewk_zps582f3591.jpg.html)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/c14badge_zps90d15d06.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/c14badge_zps90d15d06.jpg.html)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG_2916_zps5ab4bd27.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/IMG_2916_zps5ab4bd27.jpg.html)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG_29111_zpsa6cf2c06.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/IMG_29111_zpsa6cf2c06.jpg.html)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG_29141_zps2e87e575.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/IMG_29141_zps2e87e575.jpg.html)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG_2918_zps687722d7.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/IMG_2918_zps687722d7.jpg.html)


Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Lonewolf on January 29, 2014, 04:42:39 PM
Looking good.  :punk:
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: ZG on January 29, 2014, 05:20:01 PM
Quote from: The Wolf on January 29, 2014, 04:42:39 PM
Looking good.  :punk:

Thanks Wolf!  :smiley:


Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: ZG on January 29, 2014, 05:21:34 PM
For my set of green bodywork I did all the badges in a flat black (vs the gloss black with the red set), I think it looked pretty good as well.  :smiley:


(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/install10_zps01281f39.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/install10_zps01281f39.jpg.html)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/install9_zpsc4b3bfc2.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/install9_zpsc4b3bfc2.jpg.html)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/ewkewkjr_zps88136437.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/ewkewkjr_zps88136437.jpg.html)



Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: ZG on January 29, 2014, 05:28:24 PM
Next up I'm doing some little tweaks to my oem black set and having the badges all done in a neon green to match up with a set of wheels that I had powder coated neon green the other month.  :cool:

Below is a photo-shop play that should give you the squint eye feel of what I'm thinking...  :undecided:

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/3475EA01-563F-4CDA-9BE2-977248EEB869-3775-000003583B6CF326.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/3475EA01-563F-4CDA-9BE2-977248EEB869-3775-000003583B6CF326.jpg.html)

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(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/oritew_zps2d01d573.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/oritew_zps2d01d573.jpg.html)

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(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/Black_Green_1_zps321e6187.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/Black_Green_1_zps321e6187.jpg.html)


Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: O.C. on January 29, 2014, 08:48:49 PM
NO NO NO ....my ten penneth is that it just does not look good .....sorry  :no:

maybe gold Wheels  :wink:   
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Deon on January 30, 2014, 05:32:05 AM
Quote from: O.C. on January 29, 2014, 08:48:49 PM
NO NO NO ....my ten penneth is that it just does not look good .....sorry  :no:

maybe gold Wheels  :wink:   

:agree: OC, that really does not look good !!!!!

Deon
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: ZG on January 30, 2014, 06:08:15 AM
Quote from: O.C. on January 29, 2014, 08:48:49 PM
NO NO NO ....my ten penneth is that it just does not look good .....sorry  :no:

maybe gold Wheels  :wink:   

Quote from: Deon on January 30, 2014, 05:32:05 AM
:agree: OC, that really does not look good !!!!!

Deon

:cry: :cry: :cry:

:mfr_lol:........ you guys never have good taste over on that side of the water... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/backside.gif) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/backside.gif.html)



You like it but you just don't know how to react over it...  :wink:  :grin:

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y462/staffpicks/Animated_GIFs/focus-Copy.gif) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/staffpicks/media/Animated_GIFs/focus-Copy.gif.html)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/cheers.gif) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/cheers.gif.html)

Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: O.C. on January 30, 2014, 08:18:43 AM
 :mfr_lol:  Its because we DO have good taste that we are able to advise you Z.G  :mfr_lol:

BTW, I reckon the girl in the clip knew exactly what she was doing......long may she continue   :yes:   
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: ZG on January 30, 2014, 05:02:03 PM
Quote from: O.C. on January 30, 2014, 08:18:43 AM
:mfr_lol:  Its because we DO have good taste that we are able to advise you Z.G  :mfr_lol:

BTW, I reckon the girl in the clip knew exactly what she was doing......long may she continue   :yes:   

:grin: (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/cheers.gif) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/cheers.gif.html)


Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Boomer on January 31, 2014, 09:30:07 AM
The Team Green wheels & badges are fine, but the black needs to be matt.
I thought of using the green on my C10/GTR1000 but ended up using orange and matt-black as it stands out better.
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Deon on January 31, 2014, 11:46:28 AM
 :no:


Deon
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: viper on March 23, 2014, 09:15:55 PM
was talking to a GTR owner who had a bmw r100 resprayed by a guy that the Bmw dealership in Manchester use, they gave him the guys details, anyway had a full bike done including a full fairing for £200 , the gtr guy told me it was a showroom finish and when he visited him had various bmw bikes from the dealer that he was working on. A bit more on the gtr what with the panniers but still an amazing price!!
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: davetherave on March 23, 2014, 09:35:54 PM
When I had my zzr resprayed I think it was £1100, I bought all the new or spare bodywork from fleabay although I was lucky that I got the whole bikes bodywork for £300, the original blue is wrapped up safe in loft so that if I wish to sell or swap back I can.

For the cost NO stickers were used it was all completed in paint.

dtr
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Winston Smith on March 23, 2014, 10:42:49 PM
Quote from: The Wolf on June 16, 2011, 08:13:00 PM
How will respraying the GTR a non standard colour such as white affect its resale or px value?

Badly.
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: viper on March 23, 2014, 10:48:15 PM
Quote from: Winston Smith on March 23, 2014, 10:42:49 PM
Badly.

I agree, that's why im buying up a second set plastics for the new paint, probly only going to cost about £350 to get everything
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Hans on March 30, 2014, 06:31:56 PM
Bull.....

There are many buyers who want unoriginal color - if the color is not extreme and very special ....
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Winston Smith on March 30, 2014, 07:21:17 PM
Maybe it's a British thing Hans, but there is always suspicion that paintwork ahs been done to hide a crashed machine.  Also insurance companies are often 'awkward' about non original colours too
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: STX1300man on March 30, 2014, 07:51:14 PM
Quote from: Winston Smith on March 30, 2014, 07:21:17 PM
Maybe it's a British thing Hans, but there is always suspicion that paintwork ahs been done to hide a crashed machine.  Also insurance companies are often 'awkward' about non original colours too
Yep dealers and insurance companies don't like special paint jobs over here. Though some dealers are Ok if it's a special they supplied (i.e. Triumph 8 Ball paint jobs)
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: Hans on April 02, 2014, 04:35:04 PM
When sign for bike insurance... do you tell them what color the bike is?

....and final... I don't think a standard RAL color is "special" - right?


Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: bacaruda on April 02, 2014, 07:15:56 PM
Hans, I would love to have a white GTR.
Equiped with some yellow and blue reflective tape on the bike and dressed in a blue jacket and a white flip up helmet I bet it would work as Moses spliting the red sea in traffic.  :yes:

Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: davetherave on April 04, 2014, 08:42:24 PM
That white pearl c/w black wheels does look very nice indeed   :biker3:
Title: Re: re-color the GTR1400....
Post by: STX1300man on April 04, 2014, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: Hans on April 02, 2014, 04:35:04 PM
When sign for bike insurance... do you tell them what color the bike is?

....and final... I don't think a standard RAL color is "special" - right?
Yep, and it's all held on a database accesible by plod. If they scan your number plate as you ride past and it says it a blue GTR and a white one just rode past, look forward to a chat.