Washing the bike and found a couple of small hairline cracks on the left top grey panel leading up to the heated grip controller on the left. Popped open the pocket and found that had cracked around the lower fastener which was missing. Nothing has hit the bike as far as I know and no damage to any panels etc, just these small cracks in the plastic. Might have to replace it. :rolleyes:
Got pics?
Who last serviced it? Probably had to come off to do an air filter change.....
Serviced by me, all okay when I put her together, and that was well before I noticed the cracks.
I thin I had the same cracks but on the right side panel, just below the bottom right fixing.
I think it was more to do with over tightening the fixing and vibration causes the crack. I think that inner panel cost me something like £86.00 to fix.
:-(
Quote from: SirToU on November 16, 2015, 06:25:45 PM
I thin I had the same cracks but on the right side panel, just below the bottom right fixing.
I think it was more to do with over tightening the fixing and vibration causes the crack. I think that inner panel cost me something like £86.00 to fix.
:-(
Thanks, I was hoping It wasn't my fault :whistling:
I blamed my servicing dealer for damaging the left hand panel by tightening the bolt too much. He provided the panel (£50) which he was not prepared to fit. During the removal process I found the glove box outer edge broken and screw driver marks under the lid. The bike is garaged and never left unattended - so no idea how all this happened. The glove box is listed at £200 so the damaged rim was glued back into place. I think that some plastics get brittle and fracture through movement as I have just found similar damage to one of the windscreen cover plates.
Quote from: Redrat on November 20, 2015, 11:02:55 PM
I blamed my servicing dealer for damaging the left hand panel by tightening the bolt too much. He provided the panel (£50) which he was not prepared to fit. During the removal process I found the glove box outer edge broken and screw driver marks under the lid. The bike is garaged and never left unattended - so no idea how all this happened. The glove box is listed at £200 so the damaged rim was glued back into place. I think that some plastics get brittle and fracture through movement as I have just found similar damage to one of the windscreen cover plates.
My glove box is broken around one of the fasteners as well, the fastener and corner of the box is missing, don't really want to fork out £200 for a new one though!!!
Some time ago ,I had the same cracks....up to the heated grip controller. :sad:
Happened during my trip to Marocco , so i thought was for the weather too hot.....the sun....but was not for that :no: because too many gtr have that problem !!
If you change it i reccomend you to check inside the nearest glove compartment, that in my case was cracks also ! :wacko:
Quote from: topo on November 23, 2015, 04:59:57 PM
Some time ago ,I had the same cracks....up to the heated grip controller. :sad:
Happened during my trip to Marocco , so i thought was for the weather too hot.....the sun....but was not for that :no: because too many gtr have that problem !!
If you change it i reccomend you to check inside the nearest glove compartment, that in my case was cracks also ! :wacko:
Yes, mine has cracked as well :censored:
If any of you guys get time, I would very much like to see what you are talking about in the way of cracks. I want to see if it's happening over in the US.
This photo shows the brittle area around the bolt and the crack on the edge of the glove box - the other break is hidden by the lid.
Certainly looks like over tightening
over tightened and caused a stress line, a few trips out and the stress line develops into a crack
Looks like plastic gone bad to me..
Anyway, can I borrow that pic for our forum?
When I had my GTR :popcorn: I used to only hand tighten the fixings on the glove box and the fairings. That seemed to work well for me. The glove box is just over £50 to replace.
This is what I found, when I removed the panel (After this photo), the plastic around the fasteners just crumbled. Note the fastener on the corner of the box has also cracked, it fell inside. There is a very small crack running away from where the box fastener used to be, you can barely see it. Noticed this after returning from a run down to London. Never had any problems prior.
I understand the panel is around £50 and the glovebox is around £200 :censored:
Quote from: virginiajim on November 24, 2015, 11:41:11 PM
Looks like plastic gone bad to me..
Anyway, can I borrow that pic for our forum?
Thank you for asking and of course you can post for the US guys. The Kawasaki parts fiche shows all the separate items making up the 'front box' but the actual box is not listed separately. The 'case-assy, storage' is given an outline band containing all these components and is listed at £209.36p. and unfortunately I have come across this marketing strategy by Mr K on a previous purchase. I've just read BP post and crumbled is the right word to describe the damaged plastic around the bolt - in fact my original post suggested the heated grip controller might have been responsible.
Just ordered a new panel, £50, the glove box at £209 :shocked: when its only the corner lug that's cracked off, I don't think so :nono:, I'll try and fix that somehow!
Quote from: Birdpilot on November 30, 2015, 03:32:39 PM
Just ordered a new panel, £50, the glove box at £209 :shocked: when its only the corner lug that's cracked off, I don't think so :nono:, I'll try and fix that somehow!
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Birdpilot,
1. What do you clean/polish the black plastic with?
2. Has the bike ever had brake fluid spilt/wiped over that panel?
Hi,
1. Mr Sheene
2. No never.
3 years on mine so far (and 77000km), always in the Oz sun while parked at work, no such issues. I do however have the upper fairing screw mounts (on the mirror assemblies) break around where the rubber mount nuts go - general consensus here also that I over tightened them :oops:. Anybody else have this issue? :ohplease:
All the well nut holders on both sides of the dash on my 08 have cracks in them....they weren't 'over-tightened'. I've replaced the left mirror for just such a thing but the other cracks are in the mounts from the front fairing I think. If people were to look, many would see those cracks. If you have them, it might not be a bad idea to strengthen them with some sort of solidifying mixture...I'm thinking Bondic http://notaglue.com/ . If someone has a better idea for a substance to fill the cracks and strengthen the mount, then by all means..
My feeling is that the plastic well nut holders just don't hold up to the vibration.
Thought I'd update this older thread. I've suffered this cracking twice and I know that i haven't overtightened the screws. A replacement panel is £37 I believe, so not too much of a hit, but I thought I try a repair first
Although a small triangle of plastic had broken away, I did have all the bits, so I cut out a piece of stiff plastic from a chinese takeaway tub and glued it into place underneath the back edge of the panel with JB Weld. (Its brilliant stuff). I then glued all the missing bits back into place and held then in place overnight for the cement to harden. Just had to re-drill the screw hole and job's jobbed
I'm pleased with the result. Stronger than the original and would take a good man to spot it
Quote from: virginiajim on January 05, 2016, 12:36:38 PM
All the well nut holders on both sides of the dash on my 08 have cracks in them....they weren't 'over-tightened'. I've replaced the left mirror for just such a thing but the other cracks are in the mounts from the front fairing I think. If people were to look, many would see those cracks. If you have them, it might not be a bad idea to strengthen them with some sort of solidifying mixture...I'm thinking Bondic http://notaglue.com/ . If someone has a better idea for a substance to fill the cracks and strengthen the mount, then by all means..
My feeling is that the plastic well nut holders just don't hold up to the vibration.
I had exactly the same problem on my 2009 model. At first I blamed the dealer for overtightening them at a service but found out that this problem is quite common. I made new brackets for both sides, bought some new wellnuts from ebay and fixed them to the existing mirror mount studs.
This procedure I have used to repair car plastic bumpers (my drivers have a habit of reversible g into stuff)also used it on m/c fairings model trains etc etc...
Tools needed
1 heavy duty soldering iron
2 or 3 white or black cable ties.
Heat the iron until it's starting to make the cable tie semi fluid ..at the same time doing the same to the bits of broken plastic .... now get the molten cable tie to meld into the bit ya repairing .
Practise on some scrap first of all . And avoid ABS plastic ie the really thin shite.
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Another alternative is to file some hard plastic ..gather up the filings ..put a dollop of super glue on the broken piece and drizzle in the filings . Fine sawdust works bloody well too :smiley:
Hope this art is of use to some of you :smiley:
Or forget bluepeter n buy another one :mfr_lol:
Mack ya wuss lol :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :banana:
08 gtr and no signs yet but thanks for heads up ill keep an eye out 👍
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:mfr_lol: sorry wook couldnt resist lol. But very descriptive solution though. How bout small piece or fine wire mesh superglued to underside of plastic panel? Might work 🤔🤔
Aye it can do but you still need dare I say it fine sawdust for the supergoo to rapidly bond too.
Besides ah HATE haveing to bin stuff that with a bit of tinkering can be as good as new :smiley:
And no need to apologise .. the folk on here are canny and we likes a laff :smiley:
Specially at oneself :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Wookie on November 18, 2016, 11:19:35 AM
Aye it can do but you still need dare I say it fine sawdust for the supergoo to rapidly bond too.
Besides ah HATE haveing to bin stuff that with a bit of tinkering can be as good as new :smiley:
And no need to apologise .. the folk on here are canny and we likes a laff :smiley:
Specially at oneself :mfr_lol:
Canny what a word :mfr_lol:.
Some years back I worked at talent engineering in newton aycliffe and was in a B&B in spennymoor for a couple of years what a canny time with canny people still get headaches thinking about the quiet nights drinking :yes:
Ay pross i am a fan of a couple of quite beers followed by fifteen noisy ones 😃 :clap:
No just kiddin not a drinker as such more a casual sipper but each to their own eh. I remember gettin so drunk one night that i new id be in trouble when i got home so i took all my clothes off before i got to top of stairs so shed think i was home already n just got up to go toilet anyway the bus conductor wasnt happy 😀 :banana: :mfr_lol:
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