Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => 1400GTR Discussion => Topic started by: PRD on September 10, 2015, 04:36:23 PM

Title: Wheel rotation
Post by: PRD on September 10, 2015, 04:36:23 PM
How many times does the front wheel of a GTR rotate at a constant 60mph over a distance of one mile?
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: shaggs147 on September 10, 2015, 04:58:27 PM
Ooh a maths quiz. Surely the speed wouldn't matter? You just need the wheel circumference. Why do you need to know that prd?
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: viper on September 10, 2015, 06:12:02 PM
a mile is 1600 metres , so the answer is


1600 / wheel circumference = answer


measure whelel circumference at its widest point around the tyre with a paper tape measure and then show it as a % of a metre , ie     1.1 metres or .9 metre

you could just use the radius measurement and do   2x pi x R


so just using the radius

1600 / ( 2x 3.14 x radius) = answer
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: PRD on September 10, 2015, 06:35:29 PM
Just curious.........
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: virginiajim on September 10, 2015, 09:00:31 PM
Thank you indeed, Viper.  I now have a headache.
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: Charlie747 on September 10, 2015, 09:32:48 PM
Quote from: viper on September 10, 2015, 06:12:02 PM
a mile is 1600 metres , so the answer is


1600 / wheel circumference = answer


measure whelel circumference at its widest point around the tyre with a paper tape measure and then show it as a % of a metre , ie     1.1 metres or .9 metre

you could just use the radius measurement and do   2x pi x R


so just using the radius

1600 / ( 2x 3.14 x radius) = answer

:smartass: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: Lonewolf on September 10, 2015, 10:37:23 PM
Quote from: viper on September 10, 2015, 06:12:02 PM
a mile is 1600 metres , so the answer is


1600 / wheel circumference = answer


measure whelel circumference at its widest point around the tyre with a paper tape measure and then show it as a % of a metre , ie     1.1 metres or .9 metre

you could just use the radius measurement and do   2x pi x R


so just using the radius

1600 / ( 2x 3.14 x radius) = answer

Yeah that's what I was going to say......you just beat me to it by about 4 hours and a maths degree!!!
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: STMGTR on September 11, 2015, 05:18:04 PM
Somebody needs to get out more :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :single fuck:
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: virginiajim on September 11, 2015, 05:33:20 PM
 :agree:
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: patrick on September 11, 2015, 09:11:52 PM
mine goes round lots of times!!
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: exBanditOwner on September 11, 2015, 09:46:04 PM
wrong answer guys.

you need the effective circumference which is NOT the diameter time Pi. because of the flat bit at the bottom of the tyre.

the effective circumference is the 2 x distance from point on ground where tyre touches to centre of wheel x pi.

Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: Charlie747 on September 11, 2015, 10:42:52 PM
Quote from: exBanditOwner on September 11, 2015, 09:46:04 PM
wrong answer guys.

you need the effective circumference which is NOT the diameter time Pi. because of the flat bit at the bottom of the tyre.

the effective circumference is the 2 x distance from point on ground where tyre touches to centre of wheel x pi.

Yep rolling radius is what we need which will vary depending on many variables  :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: viper on September 11, 2015, 11:00:09 PM
Quote from: exBanditOwner on September 11, 2015, 09:46:04 PM
wrong answer guys.

you need the effective circumference which is NOT the diameter time Pi. because of the flat bit at the bottom of the tyre.

the effective circumference is the 2 x distance from point on ground where tyre touches to centre of wheel x pi.

well if you want to take in account that level of accuracy then you must factor in any variables such as the wheel leaning in ( camber of tyre)
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: STX1300man on September 11, 2015, 11:47:41 PM
Quote from: PRD on September 10, 2015, 04:36:23 PM
How many times does the front wheel of a GTR rotate at a constant 60mph over a distance of one mile?
Indicated 60mph or a real 60mph?  :wink:

To get the real rolling circumference you need two people. Sit on the bike and another person mark the tyre and the ground directly below the spindle. Push the bike forward (while the rider remains seated) until the mark on the tyre reaches the ground again. Mark the ground. Measure the distance between the two marks and use this in the calculations above.

Of course the tyre will grow at speed and the all that hard work will be in vain. :wink:

Instead get a cheap cycle meter and magnet. Install. Ride. Read the configuration display. Simples!
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: SirToU on September 12, 2015, 04:35:11 PM
google is your friend!

http://www.csgnetwork.com/tiresizescalc.html

tyre circumference = approximately 88.1 inches = (88.1 x 25.4) = 2237.74mm or 2.237m

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=miles+to+km

1 mile = 1.609344km or 1609.344 meters

= distance (m) / circumference (m) = number of rotations

1609.344 / 2.237 = 719.37 rotations per mile or 7.2 million rotations per year for 10,000 miles of travelling!

this is on the assumption of no tire growth due to centrifugal force, no tyre wear, no corners - also based on car tyre size.... and rim size of 17"

but this will be close enough!


sorry!  couldn't resist!
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: Debs on September 12, 2015, 04:40:15 PM
1st prize must go to you Neil  :clap:
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: snowy on September 12, 2015, 08:40:04 PM
I'll be having nightmares over this now!    :embarrassed:
The good ladys' told me that as my waistline increases I've been tending to buy bikes of bigger cubic capacity to compensate!    :oops:
But this proves it!  The size of the selected "all you can eat" breakfast (which we all know is the recommended calorie intake for a good days ride!  :yes: ) will adversely decrease the radius of the wheel, through weight gain, increasing wheel revs per distance, engine revs and wear / fuel used etc.etc.............aaarrrgggghhhh!
Might have to cut the breakfast down a bit...........just to a B.E.S.T bap (or Stottie, Nudger or Barm depending on locale'!) .........donna want to end up on a Triumph Rocket!  :no:    :tank:
Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: SirToU on September 16, 2015, 11:29:34 PM
I've gone from an inline 4 to a v twin on the basis that the pistons are bigger to compensate for the bigger waistline!

and ignore all the other metrics!

:-)

Neil

Title: Re: Wheel rotation
Post by: O.C. on September 17, 2015, 09:39:18 AM
Quote from: SirToU on September 12, 2015, 04:35:11 PM
google is your friend!

http://www.csgnetwork.com/tiresizescalc.html

tyre circumference = approximately 88.1 inches = (88.1 x 25.4) = 2237.74mm or 2.237m

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=miles+to+km

1 mile = 1.609344km or 1609.344 meters

= distance (m) / circumference (m) = number of rotations

1609.344 / 2.237 = 719.37 rotations per mile or 7.2 million rotations per year for 10,000 miles of travelling!

this is on the assumption of no tire growth due to centrifugal force, no tyre wear, no corners - also based on car tyre size.... and rim size of 17"

but this will be close enough!


sorry!  couldn't resist!

Really ???   Where does this equation  provide for the effects on rolling circumference due to ambient temperatures and tyre pressures  :mfr_lol: