For those of you who secure your bike to a ground anchor, which bit(s) of the bike do you thread it through?
I was always under the impression that you shouldn't use the wheel since it is easy to remove - particularly when it is being stolen from a garage full of tools!
Unfortunately the GTR doesn't seem to have very many convenient bits of exposed frame that could be used.
Am I just over thinking the issue and in reality it is unlikely anyone would steal a bike and leave it without a back wheel? If you use the wheel, how do you keep the chain off the ground?
I never use a chain, always use the steel rope type in plastic sleeve and put it though back wheel and over the seat.
Quote from: stoketim on August 11, 2015, 02:41:02 PM
I never use a chain, always use the steel rope type in plastic sleeve and put it though back wheel and over the seat.
Chain, steel rope... same difference ;)
That is how I used to chain my previous bike but I want to include a ground anchor in to the equation now to prevent the bike just being lifted.
Thinking about it, a chain of suitable length could go around the seat and in to the ground anchor without a thief being able to move the bike forwards or backwards out of the chain - the seat is too high...
ive got 2 Thatcham chains attached to 2 Thatcham ground anchors secured through front wheel and back wheel. I also use a good disc lock and from experience its that that will cause then the most trouble.
My angle grinder is not in the garage nor my large sledge hammer .
my previous insurer demanded that I fit Thatcham approved locks or chains no matter where the bike was.
If not fitted, they wouldnt pay out
Not much of a bind in the garage at home but a bit of a faff when stopping for a tea and sarnie.
In the conversation with them they told me that its about slowing the thief down and making them look at the next bike in the tea room car park.
When at home I use thatcham approved alarmed disc locks in an alarmed garage attached to the house and they are probably there to make me feel a bit better rather than stop a thief who comes with a portable angle grinder
when I'm out I'm usually not far from the bike or its in a sensible spot with people passing etc.
ive never had any bike insurer impose any security restriction on me and ive been with all the major ones over the last 25 years, however my bike has always been in a brick attached garage which may be enough to satisfy them . My Thatcham stuff has given me a very small discount
Thanks for your input everyone...
I'm not so much after the insurance discount as just preventing the pikeys from taking it in the first place (I've had a bike stolen from my back garden in the past, different house however). I was just curious which bits of your bikes you chain down to secure them and whether there were any preferred anchor points on the bike.
no chain or anchor will stop a cordless angle grinder , its all about giving them obstacles to buy time to make them loose their bottle, security lighting and proximity alarms may be more use. As I said disc locks seem to be the most time consuming thing
many years ago I had a few shed break ins, I attached a radio to my security lights which came on in the bedroom to awake me. I painted out most of the detector part on the PIR lens so it concentrated just on the shed door and was less likely to pick up cats ect. 2 weeks later I caught them red handed, 2 teenage lads, chased them off and never had another problem
Quote from: viper on August 15, 2015, 10:26:11 PM
no chain or anchor will stop a cordless angle grinder , its all about giving them obstacles to buy time to make them loose their bottle, security lighting and proximity alarms may be more use. As I said disc locks seem to be the most time consuming thing
many years ago I had a few shed break ins, I attached a radio to my security lights which came on in the bedroom to awake me. I painted out most of the detector part on the PIR lens so it concentrated just on the shed door and was less likely to pick up cats ect. 2 weeks later I caught them red handed, 2 teenage lads, chased them off and never had another problem
Like yer style :punk: :punk:
Quote from: ant177 on August 11, 2015, 01:58:27 PM
For those of you who secure your bike to a ground anchor, which bit(s) of the bike do you thread it through?
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Unfortunately the GTR doesn't seem to have very many convenient bits of exposed frame that could be used.
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How about the horizontal cross-beam of the center stand?
Cheers
Paul B.
Quote from: PaulB on August 18, 2015, 04:23:05 PM
How about the horizontal cross-beam of the center stand?
Hmmm, good thinking. I'll have a look at that in the morning. Is the centre stand harder to remove than a wheel? I haven't really looked in that area of the bike for anything.
Quote from: ant177 on August 18, 2015, 08:19:47 PM
Hmmm, good thinking. I'll have a look at that in the morning. Is the centre stand harder to remove than a wheel? I haven't really looked in that area of the bike for anything.
I recall seeing a thread on here about what a serious pain the centre stand was to remove! Definitely much harder than removing a wheel.
Cheers
Paul B.
don't know why you are all getting so hung up on where to put a chain, just put it through the back wheel, honestly , a chain in most situations is just a detterent. Have you any idea how hard it is to move a bike the size of a GTR with a wheel missing , any organised criminal will bring a cordless grinder before he starts bringing lifting gear or 3 other guys to help him lift the bike wheelless
ive never seen a motorbike wheel chained to a lamppost with no bike , its not a pushbike
I'm not particularly hung up on it, I just thought it would be an interesting question. I've never owned a bike that hasn't had some convenient bit of accessible frame that's all...
With a bike like the gtr if some one is trying to steal it ,if the steering lock is on then if you do not have the fob then what good is is it to anyone , it's not like a race rep where the fairings and bits that go in a crash are always in demand , I wonder how many gtr,s have been stolen not many I would guess , :biker3:
That was my thinking as well. I've had the misfortune of having had my bike stolen (and then house burgled a few days later) so I tend to err on to the slightly paranoid side of these things! ;)
Apparently it is unacceptable to electrify the garage door and build moats full of crocodiles :whistling:
A good quality ABBUS disc lock will do the trick ... if you do need a chain and lock make sure the lock sits on the tyre or at least is not on the ground so it cant be smashed off in a jiffy.