Hello, had a rear tyre pressure monitor error this morning. low battery. flashed on the dash for a bit. then went off. Hoping it was due to the cold. -4ºC
anyone had similar experiences or know how to change the battery?
thanks
I had a quick run round on mine at the weekend and the error message came on but cleared after a bit of riding. I dont know why. I assumed it was the cold and the bike having been on its stand for 6 weeks
I have been having it on mine it stays on longer the colder it is.
They are supposed to have a 5 year life?.the dealers want about £300 I am lead to believe.
The older models the battery is soldered in there are some Picts on here somewhere about diy if you have the know how do a search.
i had the warning ip on mine,it was -5 at the time,it went out after a mile or so,then it appeared again about 6 months later,i took it to the dealer & it was replaced under warranty,they replaced the whole thing,not just the batteries.
Just had both mine replaced under warranty at 22 months old. Exactly the same symptoms. I'm told that the replacements should have a life of up to 10 years now as they have been redesigned
Best thing you can do is take them out at the next tyre change ,and put them in the cupboard,more trouble than they are worth, :yes:
Mine does it anywhere below 4 degrees. I'll swap the batteries next tire change.
Mine were replaced a couple of years ago, and I still get the message when it is cold. Goes off after tires warm up.
not sure when Kawasaki changed to the sealed units" no battery change possible" but it was circa 2011/12 so just be aware of this before you embark on a diy battery instal.
Another point is that if you have the batteries changed on warranty they will put in the sealed units ,even if you have the non sealed units leaving you with a £300 bill next time they go . best forfeit the warranty offer and save money in the long run
Quote from: viper on January 19, 2015, 10:01:08 PM
best forfeit the warranty offer and save money in the long run
^^^^agreed^^^^
Got this warning couple of weeks ago in cold weather. Went off after half a mile. Spoke to the mechanic at my local independent about them replacing the battery when I get a new rear tyre- probably spring time- and decided will probably just have a standard valve put in. this is the only bike I've had with TPS and frankly I don't see the point if " maintenance" of said items is made to be so difficult/ rip off price
Quote from: Teacher on January 23, 2015, 08:26:46 PM
Got this warning couple of weeks ago in cold weather. Went off after half a mile. Spoke to the mechanic at my local independent about them replacing the battery when I get a new rear tyre- probably spring time- and decided will probably just have a standard valve put in. this is the only bike I've had with TPS and frankly I don't see the point if " maintenance" of said items is made to be so difficult/ rip off price
that's a good point, just keep the old units for the next owner, after a while the once indicated PSI reading just rverts to a - im lucky in that mine are the changeable battery type and I can change the bats myself.
I like having them to be honest, warned me of a slow puncture in the middle of Wales, very helpful.
Quote from: shaggs147 on January 23, 2015, 09:04:53 PM
I like having them to be honest, warned me of a slow puncture in the middle of Wales, very helpful.
I agree when I had a puncture they showed me how quick I was losing pressure hole to big to patch.
Recovery was around £120 . I carry a compressor so kept refilling to get home and used the sensor display to stop and refill when down to 10 lb
Looking like I need some batterys in mine getting some pr4s before the summer where can I get the batterys from pl :ohplease: thanks.
ebay
this thread has some info on the bats
http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=4032.0
Ive got 2 new batteries that i never fitted. If you send me a paid self addressed envelope, you can have them.
:punk: many thanks ant I will take you up on that over if you don't mind plus will put a little something in so you can have a beer on me how do I get your address thanks again andy.
Don't worry about a drink.........PM sent
I'll drink for both of you.. I know that will make me happy.
seems to throw this error every time it hits -4ºC goes off when tyre warms up.
is this a sign of a weakening battery or something more sinister?
Mine has done this a few times, always the rear tyre. TPS changed under warranty (twice) now seems much better but still happens for a few moments on the coldest of rides.
Weakening battery.. It will eventually start the warnings at higher and higher temps.
Hey guys
quick question :
My understandaing is that 2 verions of the Sensor are available. The sealed and the non sealed.
Mine is a 2009 version, and on the microfiche I can see the PN being :
CHKM386696 SENSOR,TPMS 315MHZ
The latest version, which I assume is the sealed one has the following PN :
CHKM383446 SENSOR,TPMS 433MHZ
So my questions:
1) Can someone confirm that I have non sealed TPMS?
2) Is the new PN (CHKM383446) is the one for the non sealed version?
3) How do you explain the Mhz difference?
A bit lost on that topic and I would require someone to enlightent me :-)
Thanks
You will have the non sealed type unless they have been changed recently. :yes:
Hey
Thanks for this fast reply. This is what I was thinking.
Now, if I get the alarm to often (non only on cold winter days), shall I buy the 2014 version of the TPMS?
Would they be non sealed? Would they work ? (the frequency does not seems to be the same
Sincerely
Part Number Hertz Specification Mark [A]
21176-024 434 MHz EUR, AU, SEA Blue
21176-027 315 MHz MY Red
21176-025 315 MHz US, CA, CAL Green
This is for the original sensors. DHAC on the new ones.
Quote from: badaboum on February 10, 2015, 02:27:33 PM
Hey
Thanks for this fast reply. This is what I was thinking.
Now, if I get the alarm to often (non only on cold winter days), shall I buy the 2014 version of the TPMS?
Would they be non sealed? Would they work ? (the frequency does not seems to be the same
Sincerely
They may well be sealed and you would need a Kawasaki Dealer to program them to your bike.
Ok so the only solution is to go to the dealer, sign a check for 300€ and have a sealed solution again?????
This is realy crappy and not the way the Japanese bike maker usually works...
Crappp..
I would suggest just replace the battery.. far cheaper.
http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/tiresensor
Hello
Yes I saw that solution. But How do I get the tyre out for 1h to do the repair?
I don't have a garage so if I go to a tyre shop I won't be able to leave the bike there for a couple of hours just to do this mod...
Do you know any mobile tyre fitters in your area? They will take the tyre off for you at your home address then replace it
That is indeed a proper solution.
I am going to wait for both sensors to fails to do them at the same time
I haven't found a proper Tutorial. Do you have one?
Thanks
Here's one.
http://blog.mitza.net/2012/03/kawasaki-concours-14-tire-pressure.html
It's not difficult at all and I've done both of mine.. Both with scheduled tyre (I'm trying) changes.
Merci !!!
I'll do that next time
Quote from: badaboum on February 10, 2015, 03:51:05 PM
Ok so the only solution is to go to the dealer, sign a check for 300€ and have a sealed solution again?????
This is realy crappy and not the way the Japanese bike maker usually works...
Crappp..
Actually, no. You will get the new unit with replaceable battery so you can change it again in 3 years :grin:
Is there a way to delete the "Low pressure warning" from the display. My first ride this year and I had it all the time, so now I know the battery is low. I don´t need to be reminded all the time. It was +8C so it ought not be the temperature. Mine is an -08 if it helps.
biker/Sweden
Quote from: garfield1974 on February 10, 2015, 05:25:47 PM
Actually, no. You will get the new unit with replaceable battery so you can change it again in 3 years :grin:
You will be very lucky, as they are not made anymore.....once they are gone, they are gone.
Quote from: biker on March 08, 2015, 06:00:46 PM
Is there a way to delete the "Low pressure warning" from the display. My first ride this year and I had it all the time, so now I know the battery is low. I don´t need to be reminded all the time. It was +8C so it ought not be the temperature. Mine is an -08 if it helps.
biker/Sweden
One, you could wait for the batteries to completely die and the warning will go away.. However, they can linger for quite a while...years in fact. Two, dismount both tires, remove the batteries from the sensors, install the sensors back or just put in a new valve stem (8mm), and mount the tires back. Both accomplish the same thing.
the tyre can be opened up by using 2 g clamps and a small wooden wedges enough to get the tps out, with the tyre still on the bike , some pics on the site somewhere
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f82/BDF08012008/twoclampsbreakingbead.jpg)
Take em out ,put them on the shelf and forget about them ,more trouble than they are worth ,managed for 35 years without ,waste of time , :gun_bandana:
I didn't have a smarty phone 35 years ago either. I kinda like it. I like DVRs, satellite TV, computers, all the stuff we have now. Didn't have that 35 years ago either. I like the sensors. I even like KIPASS. I don't miss points in cars or drum brakes. I like my hybrid electric car. Didn't have that 35 years ago.
They did have Daleks way past 35 years ago. Still have them today. I've actually grown to like them. Wish I had one.
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Quote from: virginiajim on March 08, 2015, 11:57:42 PM
I didn't have a smarty phone 35 years ago either. I kinda like it. I like DVRs, satellite TV, computers, all the stuff we have now. Didn't have that 35 years ago either. I like the sensors. I even like KIPASS. I don't miss points in cars or drum brakes. I like my hybrid electric car. Didn't have that 35 years ago.
They did have Daleks way past 35 years ago. Still have them today. I've actually grown to like them. Wish I had one.
:agree:
Heres is link With photo and info... I hope it is useful
http://blog.mitza.net/2012/03/kawasaki-concours-14-tire-pressure.html
:scooter:
More trouble than they are worth.
I suffered for 3 years with the flashing "low battery" .. v annoying, but no way was I going to pay a fortune to buy new sensors, when it was only the batteries that caused the prob. In the end, J and S Cheshire (Kawasaki main dealer where I'd bought my bike) were brilliant. They replaced the batteries free of charge (I just supplied the new batteries) when they put new tyres on. Understandably they said that there could be no guarantees and that Kawasaki do not sanction splitting the sensor and then supergluing back together, but its worked perfectly. Just wish I'd done it 3 years ago.
I've had 1 puncture in 8 years ... on west coast of Scotland, miles from anywhere ... the Tyre Pressure sensor was great ... started flashing as soon as pressure got down to 30 ... I was then able to pump tyre up to 42 and carefully ride the 100 miles to Inverness watching the pressure fall v slowly. Personal preference I know, but I usually leave the display on "tyre pressure" and find it reassuring that they are at least approx right?
Likewise I always ride with the tyre pressure indicated, god knows what the actual psi is in them as my fancy dan tester says it's 42 and the sensors say 44, yesterday I had a ride and I reckoned the tyres were harder than they should be, I might take it to my local garage and see what there gauge says.
But I like the idea I know what's going on.
I agree with both the above.i like them :clap: I had my compressor tested at my mates tyre shop it's 1/2 a lb out ( under ) alas he only does car tyres .
I had a puncture and the display kept me informed at 15 lb I reinflatted back to 42 and got home ok then replaced the tyre next day due to the size of the hole and it was the rear no plugs for me just temporary to get home :yes:
I have a 2010 model and have a slow puncture in front tyre and want to replace battery when tyre man has tyre off. Can I do this on my year bike and what battery do I need please. Thanks all.
The standard battery is a CR2032 and it has soldered tabs on it, usually you can't get the tabs in the same exact place so if you can solder then is easy, you can change them on the earlier type sensors as the plastic body comes apart after removing one tiny screw under the sticker, the latter type sensors are designed not to be taken apart, but believe me when my rear new type needs a battery I will be trying like hell to get it to bits rather than pay for a new one so even if I break it it won't matter.
Easy job.
I don't think the standard CR2032 has the tabs on it. You have to buy it specially made and it has a different designation. Some have said that they've got it a specialty battery stores..
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/battery-products/batteries-non-rechargeable-primary/394467?k=P668-ND
https://octopart.com/cr-2032%2Fvcn-panasonic-19088802
I used the digikey batteries on mine. Hopefully you guys have a source. If you buy a straight CR2032 and try to solder on the tabs it could damage the battery internally. I think that the tabs on the existing battery are brazed on but it's been awhile since I did mine. I also did it at a tire change. I have a business near me that changes mc tires. Had them take off the tire, fixed the battery, and then had them mount a new tire. Only cost $20 (including balance) per tire.
I meant the battery is a CR2032 but has tabs, I agree the usual one you purchase does not have tabs and trying to solder onto them is almost impossible, here on eBay for example you can get the battery with tabs, they just won't be in the correct place hence the ability to solder is helpful.
Should have made this clearer.
Quote from: PRD on September 18, 2016, 08:54:04 AM
More trouble than they are worth.
You know what theyre actually not. If you change them every tyre change the batteries are only £2 each and you actually dont even need to solder them as long as th tabs stay in contact with the battery and this is done simply with some small piece of doubled over card on top of each tab inside the sensor after the old battery is carefully removed and the new replaced.once the lid goes on the card is enough to hold the battery tabs on to the battery. I also wrapped unit around battery end with electrical tape once it was clipped back together. Just belt and braces on my part. With the battery in the north position as you look at it theres a tab on the right and left side of the battery. The right tab sits under the battery the left tab sits on top and is the plus side. Make sure you put a tiny piece of electrical tape on the right side of the battery so the right tab only touches it underneath. This stops the battery shorting out. Its obviuos when you see it. I did both of mine in the tyre garage in half hour. So nothing to be scared of just look and apply yourself logically thats all. Its really not difficult. Fear is just an emotion which you can switch off if you want to then just get stuck into doing the job. If it helps just put on some pointy ears and have your name changed by deed poll to spock :mfr_lol:
Anyway both mine are going strong and ive had no probs with them and dont expect to.
On my 08, they started complaining about year 2 and got progressively worse. Finally switched them out around year 5 or so and not a peep out of them since then. I think they had a very large batch of bad batteries to begin with.
My 2012 has starting showing low warning on the front but it disappears once warm. I will sort them both at next tyre change
Quote from: moayling on December 05, 2016, 12:21:03 PM
My 2012 has starting showing low warning on the front but it disappears once warm. I will sort them both at next tyre change
Yes your tyre temperature gets warmer as you ride. This makes the air inside the tyre warm which in turn makes the sensor and its battery get warm. The battery getting warm will increase its power and the low battery warnin will go off. Itll do that for ages probably moayling
Thanks Mac
Mo
No probs 👍
Just a thought but ... if you have a new garmin twatnav ...when your bike K no replaceable battery sensor goes snoozys .. you can always fit garmins sensors ...
Just a thought :wink:
£79.95 per sensor plus if you don't have a garmin in sat nav then that's another cost, good idea on one hand though, has to be considered.
Quote from: BigAlan on December 07, 2016, 08:16:01 PM
£79.95 per sensor plus if you don't have a garmin in sat nav then that's another cost, good idea on one hand though, has to be considered.
And some :censored: can nick them like the do with the valve caps
Aye that's a wee prob :embarrassed:
Sounds like bathroom work to me..
And the saga of tps goes on and on and on..........
Quote from: virginiajim on December 10, 2016, 12:18:18 AM
Sounds like bathroom work to me..
Ah the good old english toilet humour :mfr_lol: what with that and tea its what made us great britain :punk:
And now with pc we are that island north of france. When i left school pc stood for police constable and that was it :mfr_lol: bring back bad costumes,very long words and the good old days :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Macskwak on December 10, 2016, 09:31:27 AM
Ah the good old english toilet humour :mfr_lol: what with that and tea its what made us great britain :punk:
And now with pc we are that island north of france. When i left school pc stood for police constable and that was it :mfr_lol: bring back bad costumes,very long words and the good old days :mfr_lol:
well I don't know about you but I'm still wearing my 70s tank tops :mfr_lol:
You guys need a shuddering emoticon..
Quote from: virginiajim on December 10, 2016, 01:51:22 PM
You guys need a shuddering emoticon..
Haha jim no we just need a life lol
Tell me about it...
Take them out put with orignal exhaust somewhere safe and fit 90 degree stems . :mfr_lol:
If yarl bored and wanna adventure ... WoOk needs 30 Scots pines dropping .. only trouble is there 40ft tall and power lines are 20ft away and the house is 40ft away . . But you wouldn't get bored . Trust me :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Wookie on December 10, 2016, 08:16:33 PM
If yarl bored and wanna adventure ... WoOk needs 30 Scots pines dropping .. only trouble is there 40ft tall and power lines are 20ft away and the house is 40ft away . . But you wouldn't get bored . Trust me :mfr_lol:
potentially shocking :popcorn:
Hair raising!
Impacted Colon curing :mfr_lol:
Quote from: yager01 on September 18, 2016, 07:26:39 AM
Heres is link With photo and info... I hope it is useful
http://blog.mitza.net/2012/03/kawasaki-concours-14-tire-pressure.html
:scooter:
a thought has occurred to me reading that link (hi by the way , I'll do a proper intro in due course).
This battery is a standard PC motherboard battery (hence the flylead)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bTpQ8G0UxS4/UJXyOeMTl-I/AAAAAAAABKU/SLj8QEqDveo/s320/Panasonic-CR2032-CMOS-RTC-2wire-Lithium-Battery.JPG)
Rather than cutting the connecter off and soldering the wires to the PCB inside the TPS why not remove the prongs, find a matching socket and solder that into the PCB.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UK3tVxqOIUE/T1gHz2wocyI/AAAAAAAAAxg/KWc1IDgjrHA/s320/tps06.jpg)
That way when you want to do a battery replacement its a simple (once you've got to the TPS) plug out/plug in job
There's been a lot said on this thread about replacing the batteries in a non sealed unit but no real mention of the sealed units themselves.
Has anyone replaced the sealed units because of low battery problems or is it safe to say that the sealed units are lasting a nice long while?
No sticky a battery is a battery which ever unit u use its just a way of mother kwak stopping battery replacements instead of unit replacements. Its just company profits being looked after thats all. Theres no mention that ive heard of to say they last any longer.
Sadly it just comes down to economics 😩
I am told the new sensors have the insides in epoxy whatever that means, if I have one go down I will try my hardest to get inside it and take a look to see if I can replace the battery before spending any pension money on a new unit.
Ive got 27 fingers and 11 thumbs but I completed the battery replacement first time using the batteries with the wires attached, go for it. My bike is 2009 reg and the transponders were held together by a small screw not a sealed unit.
Quote from: clarky on January 16, 2017, 07:25:07 PM
Ive got 27 fingers and 11 thumbs but I completed the battery replacement first time using the batteries with the wires attached, go for it. My bike is 2009 reg and the transponders were held together by a small screw not a sealed unit.
You are not originally from West Bromwich are you they all have loads of fingers and thumbs :whistling: