Me like.
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/2015-kawasaki-versys-1000-photo-leak/
In fairness it couldn't really have been any less pretty.... :whistling:
New one is very Multistrada/Caponard-esque. Nice looking
Quote from: Winston Smith on September 30, 2014, 11:36:42 AM
In fairness it couldn't really have been any less pretty.... :whistling:
New one is very Multistrada/Caponard-esque. Nice looking
Have you tried a V 1000 Chris ? I'd be interested in your opinion :yes:
Very nice, any idea of price yet?
Prices not announced yet :wink:
http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/en/products/dual_purpose/2015/versys_1000/overview?Uid=08CFWgwODQlZXVFfWV9QXFAOUQlaXVEOXQkNUA5ZClhdWgo
Quote from: Winston Smith on September 30, 2014, 11:36:42 AM
In fairness it couldn't really have been any less pretty.... :whistling:
New one is very Multistrada/Caponard-esque. Nice looking
I think less about what a bike looks like, and more about what the bike will actually do. 18 months and 23,000 miles on mine, no warranty claims, no unexpected dealer visits. In fact no issues at all. And the bike is a delight to ride. At £8500 pounds including full luggage, they have got to be the bargain of the century. :yes:
Quote from: O.C. on September 30, 2014, 05:41:23 PM
Have you tried a V 1000 Chris ? I'd be interested in your opinion :yes:
In which marque Rog?
Have ridden the DMS and it is a stonking bike. Let down by chain drive IMO but Duck-Hatty won't go shaft.
It is a real piece of work though but really more sport than adventure. Servicing is expensive too.
Would love to have a go on the Caponard, it is supposed to beat everything else into a cocked hat but there is no dealer network to support it in the UK properly!
Having just come back from the latest big tourer test I must say I do prefer 4(+) cylinder bikes to twins/triples
I do like the red version of that Versys, and the bike is a hell of a tool, if I decide to change from the GTR this is what I would get, not much else floats my boat, well OC's Yamaha is a bit tasty so that has to be considered.
Alan
Quote from: Winston Smith on September 30, 2014, 07:59:55 PM
In which marque Rog?
Have ridden the DMS and it is a stonking bike. Let down by chain drive IMO but Duck-Hatty won't go shaft.
It is a real piece of work though but really more sport than adventure. Servicing is expensive too.
Would love to have a go on the Caponard, it is supposed to beat everything else into a cocked hat but there is no dealer network to support it in the UK properly!
Having just come back from the latest big tourer test I must say I do prefer 4(+) cylinder bikes to twins/triples
Must agree, when you have ridden a Japanese 4 cylinder engined bike, they are very difficult to get out of your system.
Unfortunately we didn't have the Six this year (will have to do with my own!)
Quote from: Winston Smith on September 30, 2014, 07:59:55 PM
In which marque Rog?
Have ridden the DMS and it is a stonking bike. Let down by chain drive IMO but Duck-Hatty won't go shaft.
It is a real piece of work though but really more sport than adventure. Servicing is expensive too.
Would love to have a go on the Caponard, it is supposed to beat everything else into a cocked hat but there is no dealer network to support it in the UK properly!
Having just come back from the latest big tourer test I must say I do prefer 4(+) cylinder bikes to twins/triples
Sorry Chris should have clarified...by V1000 I was meaning Versys 1000.
I rode the Caponord last year....I did not like it at all, and all the claims about a magic carpet ride are, in my humble opinion, bullshit.
My S10 has a suspension that leaves the capo for dead, plus its a quality bike with component and build quality to match
Quote from: O.C. on October 01, 2014, 02:49:41 PM
Sorry Chris should have clarified...by V1000 I was meaning Versys 1000.
I rode the Caponord last year....I did not like it at all, and all the claims about a magic carpet ride are, in my humble opinion, bullshit.
My S10 has a suspension that leaves the capo for dead, plus its a quality bike with component and build quality to match
lol - you Versys owners (and ex owners) with your abbreviations :mfr_lol:
Would still like to have a go on the Capo
Quote from: BigAlan on September 30, 2014, 08:15:53 PM
I do like the red version of that Versys
Alan
It's Candy Burnt Orange... :yes:
Quote from: Débs on October 01, 2014, 04:26:27 PM
It's Candy Burnt Orange... :yes:
Debs is right again :mfr_lol:
Alan
I owned a triumph Tiger 1050 in 2007 that was Burnt Orange...nice colour :yes:
Quote from: BigAlan on October 01, 2014, 04:31:38 PM
Debs is right again :mfr_lol:
Alan
Should have gone to :cool2: :mfr_lol:
With my new glasses on i have watched the video of the new Versys 1000 in Candy and with the panniers on looks pretty damm awesome.
Even though i love my GTR i may well have to have a go on it just to see, already i am thinking i will like it.
Alan
Quote from: BigAlan on October 03, 2014, 12:47:19 PM
With my new glasses on i have watched the video of the new Versys 1000 in Candy and with the panniers on looks pretty damm awesome.
Even though i love my GTR i may well have to have a go on it just to see, already i am thinking i will like it.
Alan
Alan, as Kawasaki have not upgraded the GTR, and most owners look to upgrade every 2/3 or maybe 4 years, present GTR owners will have to move somewhere. I suspect most will move to the German bikes, and just accept the re-calls and other assorted grief as part of owning a BMW. One factor that has to be taken into consideration though, is the fact that we are all getting older, and the sheer weight and bulk of bikes has to be allowed for in our decision making. Also the price of dedicated touring bikes seems to carry on going up and up (I have always questioned wether most of us actually need a touring bike), where as there are lots of Adventure style bikes on the market, that will do everything that a tourer will do, but without the price tag, weight and bulk. When you have had your test ride, give us a report of what you think. Geoff :smiley:
Quote from: 100milesaway on October 03, 2014, 03:14:04 PM
Alan, as Kawasaki have not upgraded the GTR, and most owners look to upgrade every 2/3 or maybe 4 years, present GTR owners will have to move somewhere. I suspect most will move to the German bikes, and just accept the re-calls and other assorted grief as part of owning a BMW. One factor that has to be taken into consideration though, is the fact that we are all getting older, and the sheer weight and bulk of bikes has to be allowed for in our decision making. Also the price of dedicated touring bikes seems to carry on going up and up (I have always questioned wether most of us actually need a touring bike), where as there are lots of Adventure style bikes on the market, that will do everything that a tourer will do, but without the price tag, weight and bulk. When you have had your test ride, give us a report of what you think. Geoff :smiley:
I have to agree with Geoff, at best i go away for a week to foreign lands with no pillion so the GTR is a luxury, yes its heavy and cumbersome when pushing it around and yes proper tourers are expensive, at 58 tomorrow i am wondering if indeed i need the GTR and could get decent money for it trading it in for the Versys.
Indeed when i see one and have a go on one i shall report back.
Alan
I still don't get this attitude of Kawasaki must upgrade the GTR that we hear on here every year. Is it perfect, no, but then no bike is. You are never gonna find the perfect bike for you, so you start with something close and then make it yours. Me, I'm still happy after 7 years and 62k miles that Kawasaki finally made a sportsbike for me, that can tour if pushed to it. I've tried most of it's competitors and have yet to find anything that come close. Each to their own I guess. If I had the money some of you waste changing bikes every 3 years I'd have over 10 bikes in the garage hy now.
The problem I have with the GTR is that when ever I feel like a change and test ride something else nothing matches it. At the mo,
Quote from: Boomer on October 03, 2014, 10:25:17 PM
I still don't get this attitude of Kawasaki must upgrade the GTR that we hear on here every year. Is it perfect, no, but then no bike is. You are never gonna find the perfect bike for you, so you start with something close and then make it yours. Me, I'm still happy after 7 years and 62k miles that Kawasaki finally made a sportsbike for me, that can tour if pushed to it. I've tried most of it's competitors and have yet to find anything that come close. Each to their own I guess. If I had the money some of you waste changing bikes every 3 years I'd have over 10 bikes in the garage hy now.
I agree to a certain extent, but it is a fact that most of us like to change bikes, just because we can. Manufacturers upgrade and change colours of next years models to, A. try to address owners comlaints/ suggestions, as to what they like or dislike about the currant model. Or B. Manufacturers need to keep making, and selling new bikes. I think that we would all agree that the GTR has not been a massive seller, so if Kawasaki keep updating year on year, they are hoping that their improvements will encourage more buyers. They have to recoup the initial research/development costs somehow. If as you suggest we all bought a bike, then kept it for 7/10 years, in no time at all there would be no motorcycle manufacturers left. At the end of the day they are trying to make a profit, so making a bike and letting that model run and run, even though it is not selling well, would be a recipe for disaster. It does look though that Kawasaki have called time on the GTR, surely if there was going to be an updated model it would have happened by now. So present owners will either have to do as you do, and keep the bike for a greater number of years, or move on.
Quote from: Boomer on October 03, 2014, 10:25:17 PM
I still don't get this attitude of Kawasaki must upgrade the GTR that we hear on here every year. Is it perfect, no, but then no bike is. You are never gonna find the perfect bike for you, so you start with something close and then make it yours. Me, I'm still happy after 7 years and 62k miles that Kawasaki finally made a sportsbike for me, that can tour if pushed to it. I've tried most of it's competitors and have yet to find anything that come close. Each to their own I guess. If I had the money some of you waste changing bikes every 3 years I'd have over 10 bikes in the garage hy now.
I don't think it's about the perfect bike. Riders want the bike design to move with the times. Whether that means a minor redesign, new gadgets etc it doesn't really matter. The fact is that other manufacturers have upped their game and i think the GTR is getting left behind. We know its a fantastic bike, but ultimately consumers are fickle. I love the GTR and hence why I'm on my second. But it would be nice to know there's a newer model out there to upgrade to.
As I've said before I reckon its horses for courses, if your motorcycling needs require the capabilities of the GTR then buy one, we all have different biking requirements :yes:
Personally we don't tour anything like as much as we used to and the vast majority of my/our current, and I expect future motorcycling, is riding out locally, strangely I cover many more miles these days with my current biking activity than I ever did when I toured more, which often meant that we set off, toured, returned and the bike was frequently 'laid up' for longish periods of time. I now have more time on my hands and as a result I ride out on average about 2-3 times a week and now cover about 10,000 plus miles per annum.
My bike requirements have, therefore, changed and a lighter more 'flexible' machine better fits my needs (although I did used to wrestle my GTRs around all manner of country lanes)..TBH the standard Versys 1000 is, in y opinion, much more comfortable and flexible than the GTR anyway, it has an absolutely stonking engine and power delivery, it's also very much better value than the GTR which is a pricey under specified option in today's competetive marketplace.
I recently changed my 2013 Versys 1000 after 10,000 superb trouble free miles for a 2014 Yamaha Super Tenere ZE which has already covered 4,000 miles since July this year all of which have been on ride outs with my mates ~ no touring as yet, the Yam is massively capable, superbly built and perfectly suited for all my types of biking activity, plus it puts a smile on my ugly chops every time I ride it. :yes:
My Yamaha wouldn't be every-ones choice of bike but TBH I couldn't give a stuff about that, it was purchased for me and Gill to enjoy :grin: :laugh:
Perhaps kawasaki view the versys 1000 as the successor to the GTR and the GTR will gradually fade away, It probably is a great bike . Now if it had shaft drive I would clonsider it but I don't like chain drive.
Quote from: Boomer on October 03, 2014, 10:25:17 PM
I still don't get this attitude of Kawasaki must upgrade the GTR that we hear on here every year. Is it perfect, no, but then no bike is. You are never gonna find the perfect bike for you, so you start with something close and then make it yours. Me, I'm still happy after 7 years and 62k miles that Kawasaki finally made a sportsbike for me, that can tour if pushed to it. I've tried most of it's competitors and have yet to find anything that come close. Each to their own I guess. If I had the money some of you waste changing bikes every 3 years I'd have over 10 bikes in the garage hy now.
Agreed. When I moved from an ST1300 after ten years all the 'toys' on newer bikes were one of the things that swayed my decision (negatively). I've no need for cruise control, audio systems and especially not for fancy/expensive electronic suspension. I rarley carry a passenger, so once set the suspension is left alone. Its ridden, serviced and cleaned and repeated regularly.
All the bells and whistles is what pushes the 'touring' bike prices to astronomical levels, but with so many low milage pristine bikes about I can't see myself ever buying new.
Do I need a touring bike? Probably not, but I do need something that I can use all year round, for all purposes etc. etc. An adventure bike would meet those needs but personally I can't get past the styling with every bit of engineering on show and the majority are chain driven (and I'm not going back there).
Quote from: PRD on October 04, 2014, 10:16:33 AM
Perhaps kawasaki view the versys 1000 as the successor to the GTR and the GTR will gradually fade away, It probably is a great bike . Now if it had shaft drive I would clonsider it but I don't like chain drive.
If the Versys was a shaftie I would "almost" place an order now.
Alan
Quote from: BigAlan on October 04, 2014, 11:36:25 AM
If the Versys was a shaftie I would "almost" place an order now.
Alan
When most of you last had a chain drive bike, the chains and sprockets were crap. Now they are not crap. My chain drive bike has had 2 chain adjustments (2 minutes) and is still on original chain after 23,000 miles.
Quote from: 100milesaway on October 04, 2014, 12:01:12 PM
When most of you last had a chain drive bike, the chains and sprockets were crap. Now they are not crap. My chain drive bike has had 2 chain adjustments (2 minutes) and is still on original chain after 23,000 miles.
It's not that
they are crap, it's just
the crap. :wink:
I don't need oil/chain lube flicked all over the place, including the backs of my legs/boots.
Quote from: STX1300man on October 04, 2014, 12:48:22 PM
It's not that they are crap, it's just the crap. :wink:
I don't need oil/chain lube flicked all over the place, including the backs of my legs/boots.
Nah, chain lube has also changed. It now stays on the chain :banana: :yes:
But you still have to adjust it,lube it etc. shaft drive so much more convenient. Chain drive is the weak link on many bikes I think. No pun intended
Quote from: PRD on October 04, 2014, 02:21:25 PM
But you still have to adjust it,lube it etc. shaft drive so much more convenient. Chain drive is the weak link on many bikes I think. No pun intended
:agree:
I would NEVER have a chain driven bike again... :no:
Belt drives are cool. Clean, long life, adjustments hardly ever necessary. Work great on cruisers, but unsure I would trust one to stay together with the HP of the 1400, if ridden hard, like is normally done successfully, with the shaft drive.
£ 9749, Price released for the 015 Versys 1000 in standard trim.
Quote from: 100milesaway on October 15, 2014, 09:58:08 PM
£ 9749, Price released for the 015 Versys 1000 in standard trim.
That's not out of the way compared to others i dont think, should attract more people i reckon.
Alan
Quote from: BigAlan on October 16, 2014, 08:46:43 AM
That's not out of the way compared to others i dont think, should attract more people i reckon.
Alan
Alan, if you are still undecided, when you arrive in the Dales for next years jolly up, you will have to have a go on mine. :yes: :banana: :banana:
Quote from: 100milesaway on October 16, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
Alan, if you are still undecided, when you arrive in the Dales for next years jolly up, you will have to have a go on mine. :yes: :banana: :banana:
I might just take you up on that, then you can hop on my GTR and remind yourself what its like.
Alan
Quote from: BigAlan on October 16, 2014, 09:56:36 AM
I might just take you up on that, then you can hop on my GTR and remind yourself what its like. (to ride a heavy, over-priced and outdated machine) :mfr_lol:
Alan
Quote from: O.C. on October 17, 2014, 09:44:58 AM
Now now Roger, don't rile the natives. :innocent:
Ahhhhh, can the poor little girly men not handle a full sized bike? <LOL>
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Quote from: Boomer on October 17, 2014, 08:11:07 PM
Ahhhhh, can the poor little girly men not handle a full sized bike? <LOL>
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:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Boomer on October 17, 2014, 08:11:07 PM
Ahhhhh, can the poor little girly men not handle a full sized bike? <LOL>
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:agree:
Quote from: Boomer on October 17, 2014, 08:11:07 PM
Ahhhhh, can the poor little girly men not handle a full sized bike? <LOL>
Boomer via Tapatalk
:mfr_lol: I can handle a lot more than that George...including you :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Boomer on October 17, 2014, 08:11:07 PM
Ahhhhh, can the poor little girly men not handle a full sized bike? <LOL>
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As a 66 year old bloke that is not in the best of health, this girly man can handle a full sized bike perfectly well :banana: :banana: . But an OVERSIZED bike is not so easy. :no: :whistling:
Quote from: 100milesaway on October 18, 2014, 06:07:29 PM
As a 66 year old bloke that is not in the best of health, this girly man can handle a full sized bike perfectly well :banana: :banana: . But an OVERSIZED bike is not so easy. :no: :whistling:
As an English gentleman :wheelchair: I never travel :scooter: without my "man" who always supply's discreet :ninja: support for those embarrassing moments with his ................................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU2HvKBfyjg
Certainly looks like it could handle a GTR/C14 but just barely.
We could have done with that on the Sunday morning at The Belfry! :whistling:
Quote from: virginiajim on October 18, 2014, 11:30:08 PM
Certainly looks like it could handle a GTR/C14 but just barely.
:mfr_lol:
Quote from: The Wolf on October 19, 2014, 03:34:37 AM
We could have done with that on the Sunday morning at The Belfry! :whistling:
:agree: What a mistake to give my man thw weekend off :mfr_lol: