Some but not me now have moaned about a snatchy throttle response, well over on the concours site in the USA a guy posted the following and others have said it works, basically it's the. Throttle Position Sensor calibration.
Sure sounds like the TPS.
No idea, none whatsoever if this will work, but I would try it if for nothing else curiosity. Turn the bike on, do not start it. Twist the throttle on full, roll off full, do it twice. Turn off bike, turn back on and start. Go for a ride and see if it works.
I have just doe it on my bike while cleaning it but not been out yet, so if anyone has a bit of a snatchy throttle try it and let us know.
Alan
Sounds like an old wives tale, but if it does work, how bizarre would that be? :mfr_lol:
This routine was specified for my Bmw k1200 after disconnecting the battery. I don't know whether it worked, however I always did it and had no poor running in five years of ownership.
He's got a YouTube video of the procedure
I'll be doing it on mine next week
TPS ? how would the tyres be linked to this problem?
Quote from: viper on September 14, 2014, 09:09:21 PM
TPS ? how would the tyres be linked to this problem?
Throttle Position Sensor. :popcorn:
Will give it a try as had my battery off a few times and come to think about it did not have throttle issues before but have has since?
Quote from: The Wolf on September 14, 2014, 09:13:58 PM
Throttle Position Sensor. :popcorn:
I see TPS and see tyre pressure sensor
:oops:
Try it, i used my bike for work today and the last mile into Oxford is a pain in the rear as its 30 mph or less all the way in traffic, i did this "adjustment" and i can honestly say the bike was a smooth as ever, better than i remember three weeks ago when i last used it for work.
Hmm seems to work for me.
Alan
Alan, did you do the adjustment with the bike hot or cold?
Cold, turned ign on, NOT START, round to full throttle twice, turn ign off, then started it and rode off.
Alan
Hi guys....
I've been out to try this, first doing a run and warming up the bike, so I could make a comparison..... I believe this works, particularly from a closed to open throttle, like when you pull up at a set of traffic lights that turn green, or slow 90 degree turns, when you should be getting back on the throttle to pull away.... It's still not perfect, but it's certainly better! :-)
Neil
I tried this again this morning before leaving for work with the bike cold.
I think this just does more than reset the Throttle Position Sensor. But the bike is certainly a lot smoother....
Nice find and I recommend everyone do it, even if it doesn't do anything, for a 1 min non-intrusive job, what have you got to loose?
Neil
Quote from: SirToU on September 16, 2014, 06:37:12 PM
I tried this again this morning before leaving for work with the bike cold.
I think this just does more than reset the Throttle Position Sensor. But the bike is certainly a lot smoother....
Nice find and I recommend everyone do it, even if it doesn't do anything, for a 1 min non-intrusive job, what have you got to loose?
Neil
I did it yesterday and found the same result
I did this yesterday, its made a difference, but could still be better! But good call anyway, well done!
I agreee with all my fellow owners good find tried this before and felt power delivery was smoother in ma opinion
Kenny :devil2:
Hey. I'm from the US site and the same thread has been going for days now. Most everyone over here wants to PooPoo this procedure, but the video clip there shows it works. Remember the red ignition switch has to be on, too to make it work. i did mine and it lowered the idle speed, but I didn't really have a problem with snatchy acceleration before the procedure was done.
I have had to do this on a BMW and a Triumph before to recal the TPS, so even if Kawi doesn't mention it in the manual, it still seems to be a problem corrector for the TPS . Just saying. . . tomp
Just done mine and about to go out for a bacon sarnie.
Will report back BUT I am in the "I can't see how this can do anything camp". We will see.
More to this discussion here...but bring your reading glasses and be sitting in a nice comfy chair. :smiley:
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=18016.0
Quote from: STX1300man on September 26, 2014, 09:02:20 AM
Just done mine and about to go out for a bacon sarnie.
Will report back BUT I am in the "I can't see how this can do anything camp". We will see.
Bacon replaced with choccy sponge at Southwold pier :)
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Diddly squat difference ... as expected. Still a bit hesitant on very small throttle openings (which is easily ridden round or adapted to).
I was about to post just this when I saw it on the ZGGTR forum by user Rembrant.
"I suspect what is happening with the two full rotations of the throttle is that people are freeing-up stuck or sticky throttle cables, or perhaps dirt and debris is lodged inside the throttle tube housing, or between the throttle and the handlebar, etc."
The OP replied after REM, and described the changes that were made after the recal. I guess this is one of those never ending questions, like, is there or is there not a Santa Claus. . . ?
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=18016.msg221990#msg221990
I hear you and partly agree, however, lets talk about a different vehicle.
Vauxhall Vivaro, Renalt Traffic - what the reset procedure for the service light?
Renault Trafic (2001-present), Vauxhall Movano (2007- present), Vivaro (2007-present)
Turn the Ignition ON (position 2) but do not start the engine
Within 100 seconds of turning the key, press the accelerator pedal to the floor and hold it down
While still holding down the accelerator, press and release the brake pedal twice, then press it a 3rd time and hold it down
Release both pedals
Within around 10 seconds, the Oil Service warning light should turn off
Immediately Turn Ignition OFF, then within 3 seconds turn it back ON (position 2)
Turn Ignition back OFF to complete
This procedure is not in the manual! So why wouldn't kawasaki hide something like this in their firmware for the GTR.... other car manufacturers also do this... and seeing as kawasaki have many fingers in many pies - i.e.... Kawasaki Heavy Industries (basically Motorcycles are Kawasaki's toy box).
doing what I do, requires a lot of very small throttle openings, more so than on a track - its not pin it and hope! I think there is some mileage in it, and it has certainly improved throttle response, but its not perfect. If you want perfect - buy a Honda!
Just my additional 2p worth!
Neil
Quote from: tomp on September 26, 2014, 05:02:29 PM
The OP replied after REM, and described the changes that were made after the recal. I guess this is one of those never ending questions, like, is there or is there not a Santa Claus. . . ?
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=18016.msg221990#msg221990
There's no Santa Claus?
Quote from: Débs on September 26, 2014, 10:40:42 PM
:eek: :sad:
I believe there is a Santa, for sure. Seems he rides an R1100RT today, though...
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I did the procedure and it didn't do anything for my bike, but then I wasn't having any of the issues with the throttle that others are having.
Did it to mine and no change.
Then again I wasn't having the problems shown in the video.
My problem is the transition from off throttle to part throttle.
It's not bad but when filtering/lane-sharing you are constantly adjusting the throttle and it gets to be a real PITA.
Someday I'm gonna try the after-market throttle tube fix but I think it's an inherent problem with fuel injection as they all save fuel by switching off all fuel delivery below a certain throttle position.
Perhaps a Power Commander might help with this.
On my ancient carb fuelled bike there is absolutely no snatchiness what so ever.