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1400 GTR - All Models => Accessories, Farkels and Mods => Topic started by: Kwikasfuki on April 15, 2014, 09:38:39 PM

Title: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 15, 2014, 09:38:39 PM
If anyone is looking for a good quality action camera but doesn't want to spend the ridiculous money associated with a GoPro I can recommend the SJ4000. Looks like a GoPro, has excellent image quality, comes with lots of mounting options but only costs £75. Only downside is the battery life which is about 90 minutes at 1080p. On the plus side, an extra battery is only £5. It also is compatibale with GoPro mounts and can be used as in in car camera. For £75 its well worth it.

Available from Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HHRFHG6/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=B00HHRFHG6&linkCode=as2&tag=gtr1400couk-21)

You can read/watch an excellent review at Techmoan
(http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2014/2/3/the-sj4000-action-camera-review.html?currentPage=5)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517zv4igBQL.jpg)
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Ros on April 15, 2014, 09:51:32 PM
Interesting! You probably wouldn't mind drilling a hole into the side of the case of a 75quid camera to power it... You shot any footage with it?
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 15, 2014, 09:58:43 PM
I have but need to reshoot. I angled the camera lens too far down so all you see is the windshield and my speedo

Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Ant on April 15, 2014, 10:30:49 PM
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on April 15, 2014, 09:58:43 PM
I have but need to reshoot. I angled the camera lens too far down so all you see is the windshield and my speedo

:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: Novice.......

Looks a good camera, so one could be forward and one backwards.....
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Lonewolf on April 15, 2014, 11:06:08 PM
I thought it was a Go Pro when I first saw it. I wonder how long it will be before the manufacturers are taken to Court by Go Pro for copying the product.
If the lens quality is anything like the quality of the Go Po it'll be a winner at that price.
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: pistole on April 16, 2014, 12:16:17 AM
Quote from: The Wolf on April 15, 2014, 11:06:08 PMfor copying the product

indeed.

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Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 16, 2014, 08:19:34 AM
Thats not the only camera that looks like the GoPro and the functionality isn't as high spec as the GoPro. It also comes in a variety of colours and has a colour viewfinder built in.

Its a bit like apple suing samsung about the shape of the phone - pointless.

They have the older version which is the SJ1000 which was slightly more curved and had a waterfproof case
The SJ2000 is a bullet type camera

Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: BigAlan on April 16, 2014, 08:57:16 AM
Asif

When you have worked out how to power it from the bike, mounted it on the left hand side handlebar and got it working as it should let me know and what you did, better still put together a complete package and sell it to me.

Alan
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 16, 2014, 09:24:13 AM
Quote from: BigAlan on April 16, 2014, 08:57:16 AM
Asif

When you have worked out how to power it from the bike, mounted it on the left hand side handlebar and got it working as it should let me know and what you did, better still put together a complete package and sell it to me.

Alan

This will be my helmet camera, although I may have a wired in mount later on

75 quid!  :censored: bargain! Well chuffed with it
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Lonewolf on April 16, 2014, 09:48:15 AM
So, how long before we see some footage then?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Richard on April 16, 2014, 12:48:08 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 16, 2014, 12:50:46 PM
Whilst you're waiting why not have a look at the ones on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sj4000+motorbike)!
Title: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Zebedee on April 16, 2014, 01:42:07 PM
Ordered mine today gotta love the price ain't ya


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Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Andy on April 16, 2014, 01:52:23 PM
Looks better as a bike mounted device as helmet mounted it looks like you've got a Gatso stuck on your head :-) Attaching a power cable appears to put it in dash cam mode with date and time stamp and it starts and stops recording with external power on / off. V wide angle so gives fish eye view which can be novel but you'd soon get fed up with it...

http://youtu.be/83HxtK-6UXg

"Don't forget to take camera out before you drill"

http://youtu.be/OCFond-A74w

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321169770804 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321169770804)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-HD-1080P-DV-Mini-Waterproof-Sports-Camera-Bike-Helmet-Action-DVR-Video-Cam-/111181617297?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_Video_Camcorders&hash=item19e2f0d891 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-HD-1080P-DV-Mini-Waterproof-Sports-Camera-Bike-Helmet-Action-DVR-Video-Cam-/111181617297?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_Video_Camcorders&hash=item19e2f0d891)
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Lonewolf on April 16, 2014, 02:05:03 PM
Hmm, anyone want to buy a Go Pro?  :mfr_lol:




That does look surprisingly good.  :clap:
Title: Mini F9
Post by: Andy on April 18, 2014, 03:15:45 PM
I've ordered one of these to try :-) http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X1080p+mini+f9&_nkw=1080p+mini+f9&_sacat=0&_from=R40 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X1080p+mini+f9&_nkw=1080p+mini+f9&_sacat=0&_from=R40)

Just giving it aquick test before it gets dark : I'll try on bike later

http://youtu.be/Z9ybR8ckhvo

http://youtu.be/tPhLLP6VxYM
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Zebedee on April 18, 2014, 03:53:03 PM
I cut a hole the same size as the micro USB plug for a snug fit did not fancy a 10mm hole.


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Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: trousersnake01 on May 25, 2014, 09:43:34 PM
Zeb, can I see the box where you have drilled please before I buy one. Thanks
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: trousersnake01 on May 25, 2014, 10:15:43 PM
Im trying to research this now as Im sick of making do with DIY powered cameras so I can run power from the bike to the camera, someone above mentioned that powering the camera puts it in to dashboard mode, does that mean just turning on and off with the bike power or does it as well over write its recorded files
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Zebedee on May 25, 2014, 11:24:24 PM
Had one charging point snapped out on second charge so now have a go pro


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Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Zebedee on May 25, 2014, 11:38:09 PM
Powering it from the bike starts it and stops it with power supply and rewrite can be set for max so will fill up card and then start rewriting oldest first. Sorry mate did mine a lob while in Wales now living in a lake :)


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Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: trousersnake01 on May 26, 2014, 01:54:58 AM
what went wrong with yours Zeb ?
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Zebedee on May 26, 2014, 02:26:06 AM
The micro USB charging point snapped out rendering in useless :(


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Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Andy on May 26, 2014, 03:27:05 PM
Quote from: Zebedee on May 26, 2014, 02:26:06 AM
The micro USB charging point snapped out rendering in useless :(


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Return it? There appear to be a few cases of this occurring :-) Friend just bought one on my recommendation so hope his continues working OK....

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=sj4000+broken+usb&safe=off (https://www.google.co.uk/#q=sj4000+broken+usb&safe=off)

http://youtu.be/JovOMVydGBU
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: trousersnake01 on May 26, 2014, 04:48:55 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171314371489?var=470381023985&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Well ive bought one, basically as I have used cheaper cameras and I have found that after a few files are recorded the rest corrupt wasting some good footage.

However on the SJ4000 and gopro forums it seems this also happens and ends up with corrupt files. Has anyone any idea what causes this please ?
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Zebedee on May 26, 2014, 05:27:30 PM
I think this is mainly due to the use of cheap under speed as cards.


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Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Andy on May 26, 2014, 05:32:23 PM
Quote from: Zebedee on May 26, 2014, 05:27:30 PM
I think this is mainly due to the use of cheap under speed as cards.


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Or fake SD cards :-(

http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=4123.msg56753#msg56753 (http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=4123.msg56753#msg56753)
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: trousersnake01 on May 26, 2014, 06:12:35 PM
Just read the GoPro forum and they have the same problem, I hope you are right, I'll get a sandisk pro for it, I did wonder if its the vibration from the bike rattling the memory card
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Zebedee on May 26, 2014, 06:14:57 PM
Make sure it's a class 10 mate.


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Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Andy on May 27, 2014, 05:14:32 PM
and test new card to ensure its not a fake / copy...

http://gopro.com/support/articles/software-update-release (http://gopro.com/support/articles/software-update-release)

http://www.heise.de/download/h2testw.html (http://www.heise.de/download/h2testw.html)
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: trousersnake01 on May 27, 2014, 11:53:25 PM
Thank you, got to find the cheapest reputable dealer now
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: trousersnake01 on May 28, 2014, 12:35:04 AM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDSDQX-032G-U46A-Extreme-MicroSDHC-Adapter/dp/B00D6XXL7M
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Andy on May 28, 2014, 02:13:06 PM
Quote from: trousersnake01 on May 28, 2014, 12:35:04 AM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDSDQX-032G-U46A-Extreme-MicroSDHC-Adapter/dp/B00D6XXL7M

GoPro say the cheaper Extreme is fast enough http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDSDQXL-032G-FFPA-Extreme-MicroSDHC-Adapter/dp/B00IJYG788/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1401282594&sr=1-1&keywords=%28SDSDQXL-032G (http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDSDQXL-032G-FFPA-Extreme-MicroSDHC-Adapter/dp/B00IJYG788/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1401282594&sr=1-1&keywords=%28SDSDQXL-032G)

http://gopro.com/support/articles/software-update-release (http://gopro.com/support/articles/software-update-release)

http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/ (http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/)
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: trousersnake01 on June 05, 2014, 02:54:57 PM
If you have an android phone you can pop the camera sd card in to it and remove the videos off straight on to a USB stick plugged in the bottom of your phone with a OTG cable, a quid on eBay. Thus leaving your card clear to format in the camera at the end of everyday if you are away.
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: trousersnake01 on June 05, 2014, 02:57:00 PM
Well received it today.  Very easy to set up,  just had a quick test of it before I make a hole in the side of the waterproof box for the power cable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZQlAOC2Hes
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Andy on June 05, 2014, 03:29:15 PM
Quote from: trousersnake01 on June 05, 2014, 02:57:00 PM
Well received it today.  Very easy to set up,  just had a quick test of it before I make a hole in the side of the waterproof box for the power cable


Can you sent video to public please? :-) There have been issues with charging socket detaching, I'd be tempted to take mine apart and add a little araldite with a heat gun...
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: trousersnake01 on June 09, 2014, 01:15:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENhUUD3zUWY
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: trousersnake01 on June 09, 2014, 01:55:03 PM
The micro USB power socket which can be powered off the bike. I purchased a USB cigarette lighter plug that had a 3amp output to run the USB lead off. I drilled the waterproof plastic box with a 4mm drill as I hoped that the USB lead would pass through enough to power the camera, but unfortunately it didn't have enough length so had to drill it out to 10mm hence the mess of the hole. I was able to seal this with a rubber grommet. I wouldn't put it under a pressure washer but I'm confident it will keep the rain out.

My intention now is to chop the end off the cigarette lighter plug and solder a wire on and wire straight into the front auxiliary wires.
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Zebedee on June 09, 2014, 02:56:41 PM
Be warned there is a step down to the voltage so do not wired direct into the bikes electrical system.


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Zeb
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: trousersnake01 on June 09, 2014, 04:40:51 PM
Zeb, they use a 5v micro USB phone car charger so I got one of those and just chopped the end off and soldered a pair of tail wires on and connected through an inline fuse to the front aux wires so still uses the 12v down to 5v.
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: PCPeteUK on June 09, 2014, 04:48:30 PM
Quote from: trousersnake01 on June 09, 2014, 01:15:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENhUUD3zUWY

The picture quality is comparible with the GoPro  :clap: but the sound quality is far better that anything I can get out of my GoPro - has to be the way to go me thinks as I'm looking to replace the GoPro Hero I have as I scratched the lens (silly boy).

Thanks for all the info....
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Zebedee on June 09, 2014, 05:08:37 PM
I see you are still using the plug unit :)


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Zeb
Title: Re: SJ4000 action camera
Post by: Andy on June 10, 2014, 04:28:45 PM
Quote from: trousersnake01 on June 09, 2014, 04:40:51 PM
Zeb, they use a 5v micro USB phone car charger so I got one of those and just chopped the end off and soldered a pair of tail wires on and connected through an inline fuse to the front aux wires so still uses the 12v down to 5v.

Have you updated the firmware? The on screen date / time is ore for dash cam applications I always turn it off...http://actioncamfaq.com/tag/sj4000/ (http://actioncamfaq.com/tag/sj4000/)