Kawasaki 1400 GTR

Off Topic => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lonewolf on April 19, 2011, 07:50:59 PM

Title: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 19, 2011, 07:50:59 PM
Is there anyone on here who knows anything about how to obtain accurate measurements of the boundary's of your land? I have the deeds to my house and it gives me a general overview of the shape of my garden and plot but no measurements.

This info is needed urgently to avoid me killing my neighbour!!  ;D
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Winston Smith on April 19, 2011, 07:52:12 PM
Land Registry office?
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 19, 2011, 08:27:05 PM
http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/wps/portal/Property_Search

You can see samples to see if they give you what you want. Put your house number and postcode in first
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 19, 2011, 08:40:47 PM
Yeah, I've got a document which shows an ariel view, I need something which tells me in feet and inches from my house wall where my fence should be. Then I can ram it down the throat of the guy who lives me behind me and his obnoxious Son and get them off my back!! >:(
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 19, 2011, 09:10:54 PM
What's the exact dispute?
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: aldav on April 19, 2011, 09:16:25 PM
i'm pretty sure its on ur deeds
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 19, 2011, 10:00:36 PM
Quote from: Norman Bates on April 19, 2011, 09:10:54 PM
What's the exact dispute?

Ha, where do I start??  ;D
It would be easier to show you rather than try and explain. Ive drawn a plan and converted it into a PDF file, who knows how to now link it to the thread, cause I dont.  ::)
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 19, 2011, 10:12:46 PM
When writing your post, click on additional options, and then attach
(Just above the post and preview buttons)
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 19, 2011, 10:43:04 PM
Thanks for that, it took some sorting but here it is. Basically I wanted to move my bottom fence so that it was level with the boundary wall running from the front of my neighbours garage to the top of his drive. I believe it is my land upto the point where it would intersect with his fence, not right upto his garage.
He agreed days ago and we split the gap 50/50 more or less. I've had a builder in today putting a new wall up between my house and that of my neighbour on my right as you look down the garden. Thankfully there has only been a few bricks cemented in because the Son of the  neighbour at the bottom of the garden isnt happy regardless of what his Dad said and his Son wants me to reducethe length of my wall now so that it doesnt encroach as far inbto his Dads drive, 18 months his father has been nagging me to move my bottom fence to close the gap up.


C:\Users\Stephen Young\Pictures\img001.pdf
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 19, 2011, 10:46:07 PM
OK, I can see the PDF. So what's the issue?
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 19, 2011, 10:50:43 PM
Sorry I couldnt type that fast.. read it now.
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 19, 2011, 10:57:46 PM
Tricky one that. You would need to look at the exact boundary of your land. I would say that considering the partial fence exists its likely that that is the boundary marker but with these things you can never be sure.

You might want to read this: http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_family/home_and_neighbourhood_index_ew/problems_where_you_live_index_ew/neighbour_disputes.htm

and then give these chaps a call: http://www.rics.org/site/scripts/documents_info.aspx?categoryID=241&documentID=105&pageNumber=3

Edit: http://www.gardenlaw.co.uk/boundaries.html

And from here: http://www.boundarydispute.net/

Land Registry Documents
Not all titles contain registered documents, but where they do, they often go into detail, listing all of the rights, covenants and easements affecting the property, and usually include detailed maps and plans, often to scale and often with dimensions.
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 19, 2011, 11:23:15 PM
Where do you find all this stuff?
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 19, 2011, 11:25:25 PM
Google is your friend: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=boundary+disputes&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 19, 2011, 11:33:00 PM
Quote from: Norman Bates on April 19, 2011, 11:25:25 PM
Google is your friend: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=boundary+disputes&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=

I'm not as computer proficient as you are.
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 19, 2011, 11:47:35 PM
 :D
Trust me, riding a bike is much harder!

Let us know how you get on. I would get done professional advise from those rics guys
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 20, 2011, 12:41:44 AM
Gonna make some enquiries tomorrow with the Building Society and their legal buffs.

Ta for the advice..
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 20, 2011, 06:42:34 AM
LW, my niece (lawyer) just informed me that you should take pictures of the existing fence so you have evidence of the existing marker. In case there isn't any boundary makers, adjudication can be based on the existing markers
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 20, 2011, 09:46:51 AM
I'll do that then, ta.
Even looking at Google Earth last night although its not a definitive judgement its a damn good indication and it seems clear where the boundary lies. The builder turned up just before 8am this morning and I updated him with yesterday's developments. He didnt seem phased by it at all, he said he gets this all the time. He's chopped off the 8" which was in dispute. Even he agrees that the building line is where I thought it was...... just come back from walking the dogs and the neighbour has been out, he apologised for the fuss to the builder, almost in tears apparantly. It seems this complication is down to the elderly neighbours Son who clearly dictates to his Father what is and is not going to happen. His Son does'nt even live there.  ::)

Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: fatharry on April 20, 2011, 12:39:02 PM
I'd love to be able to offer advice on this one...but i am not versed in legal stuff...so the only thing i could manage is standing at the bottom of your garden and looking scary!! :o

Hope you get this sorted  ;D
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 20, 2011, 06:27:28 PM
The son's probably going to inherit it. LW, stand your ground. If that is the boundary, get it confirmed so you don't have issues later on.

The son sounds like a twat.
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 20, 2011, 08:13:37 PM
I've had a chat today with our Building Society, the Land Registery, a firm of Surveyors and finally a legal firm linked to a policy I have connected to my mortgage. Its some sort of legal assistance for neighbour disputes. They are going to send me out a questionaire which they said will probably take me two to three days to complete, I dont like the sound of that already. Then they will forward the document to their underwriters who will make a decision whether it is viable for them to take it on.
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Rusty on April 21, 2011, 12:43:42 PM
Careful Mr Wolf ... these disputes can get very nasty ... and expensive !
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 22, 2011, 01:02:59 AM
Yeah I know, but its the principle of the matter and pride comes into it too.

(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/Fingers/100_1819.jpg)

I'm working from the neighbours top garden post in a straight line down his drive and in my book unless the building plots were all created with drives with dog legs in them, then the bit at the bottom of my garden is my land. He's doing alright out of it though, he's nicked nearly three foot x 30 at the bottom of my garden and then he's nicked a similiar width half the length of his drive which belongs to the house adjoining me.  >:(
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: madfatjake on April 22, 2011, 05:20:25 AM
Looking at the picture (and trust me here I am certainly no legal expert) I can only say is this guy a total knob jockey.
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 22, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Yes he is & his Son is an even bigger one!
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Kwikasfuki on April 22, 2011, 06:06:01 PM
From the pic it looks like you're in the right. What about the rest of the gardens on your street. How are they divided?
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 22, 2011, 08:14:44 PM
Many of the houses are of an individual design, but regardless of that everyone's drives at our end of the street are parallel to each other and straight.
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: madfatjake on April 23, 2011, 04:39:53 AM
Speaking to my legal team and showing her the picture. Psycho man next door is on a sticky wicket what should happen is the any one else who has had land taken by him should partner up with you and take him to court. Aternativly the advise was F**K him build the wall anyway and let him take you to court.
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on April 23, 2011, 10:03:18 AM
It doesnt directly involve the woman who lives in the house adjoinging me. She knows that on the far side of her garage is a small area which belongs to her but there's nothing she needs it for so she is happy to leave things as they are. My issue is that a wall is kind of permanant and I only intend to put it up once! In the right place!!  >:(

I appreciate the Son is only looking out for his Father, thats fair enough but all I want to do is build my wall on my land.
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on August 11, 2011, 01:05:38 PM
Quick update on this matter.  Solicitors have been involved from both sides, and as is the norm with solicitors, after many letters it is resolved.  I am victorious. It was obvious where the boundary line was, the funny thing was that even when their solicitor turned up to have a look at it, even he said that the boundary line was where I thought it was. Bit of a win, win situation that.   ;D
The Son from next door is now officially the biggest prick I know and to save face he is keeping a low profile.
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: BigAlan on August 11, 2011, 01:47:00 PM
And i hope slightly out of pocket with any expenses you incurred?

Alan
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Kwikasfuki on August 11, 2011, 01:50:13 PM
Nice one. I'd now brick up to the boundary line and get them to move their bins off your property  ;D
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on August 11, 2011, 01:53:47 PM
My legal advice, and all the letters etc cost the grand sum of £30.
My wife discovered that we had an add on, on our house insurance which covered us for neighbour disputes. The £30 was the excess for the claim and to cover the admin side of things to see if the claim was viable for the underwriters to back, which it was.
I cant complain at £30 to resolve this matter. Some solicitors would have deliberately dragged it on for months, if not years!
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Lonewolf on August 11, 2011, 01:57:25 PM
Quote from: Norman Bates on August 11, 2011, 01:50:13 PM
Nice one. I'd now brick up to the boundary line and get them to move their bins off your property  ;D

NB, the bins belong to the grumpy fart & the strip of land they are on belongs to the woman who lives next door to me. I cant see either now from behind my 6' + wall ;D
Title: Re: Neighbour Disputes
Post by: Ziderman on August 11, 2011, 05:39:14 PM
QuoteThis info is needed urgently to avoid me killing my neighbour!!  ;D

Ide kill him any way....saves you falling out with him then....