Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => 1400GTR Discussion => Topic started by: Lonewolf on February 06, 2014, 10:53:45 PM

Title: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on February 06, 2014, 10:53:45 PM
Has anyone ever removed their centre stand? I want to remove mine to have it powder coated and smartened up, I'm sure it's relatively easy but I just want to know what's involved before I start undoing bolts. I can see a spring and a couple of bolts, is that all there is to it?
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Deon on February 07, 2014, 06:00:37 AM
Yep ! That's all there is to it. Amazing how quickly they rust !!!


Deon
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: O.C. on February 07, 2014, 07:51:34 AM
Centre stand springs have been known to cause damage to knuckles and removal of front teeth ...be warned  :mfr_lol: 
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Boomer on February 07, 2014, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: Deon on February 07, 2014, 06:00:37 AM
Yep ! That's all there is to it. Amazing how quickly they rust !!!
Deon
If you were jet blasted with dust and gravel every day, you would rust too.  :mfr_lol:
It does live in a very exposed area.
I had mine replaced under warranty as it had rusted after 6 months and 8,000 miles.
The replacement one is now starting to rust after 6 years and 54,000 miles.
When I get round to mine I am just going to slather it in Hammerite smooth.
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: pembsgtr on February 07, 2014, 12:12:38 PM
You have beaten me to the same question Mr Wolf. Have soaked my nuts in a bit of WD40 and planning to get the centre stand to my local powder coater next week.  Just have to decide do I stay black or go for a contrasting colour?
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: doebag on February 07, 2014, 12:44:25 PM
According to the workshop manual the lower shock bolt and linkage bolts need removing. Not sure if this is for extra clearance, or essential to get at other bolts.
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on February 07, 2014, 07:05:40 PM
Viv when you take yours off let me know how easy it is won't you? I'm planning on doing mine within a week or so.
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: pembsgtr on February 12, 2014, 02:13:21 PM
Just had a closer look at centre stand removal. Can't see the reason for having to remove the rear shock. Looks like two nuts and bolts. The nuts may be difficult to gain access too. Will let you know how I get on Steve.
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: doebag on February 12, 2014, 02:21:17 PM
Manual states
Remove:
Lower Tie-Rod Bolt (see Tie-Rod Removal in the Suspension
chapter)
Lower Rear Shock Absorber Bolt (see Rear Shock Absorber
Removal in the Suspension chapter)
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on February 12, 2014, 04:02:55 PM
Quote from: pembsgtr on February 12, 2014, 02:13:21 PM
Just had a closer look at centre stand removal. Can't see the reason for having to remove the rear shock. Looks like two nuts and bolts. The nuts may be difficult to gain access too. Will let you know how I get on Steve.

Viv, many thanks.
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on February 12, 2014, 04:04:00 PM
Quote from: doebag on February 12, 2014, 02:21:17 PM
Manual states
Remove:
Lower Tie-Rod Bolt (see Tie-Rod Removal in the Suspension
chapter)
Lower Rear Shock Absorber Bolt (see Rear Shock Absorber
Removal in the Suspension chapter)


I'll have a proper look this weekend, do you think they advise the above to simplify matters or is this the only way?
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: pembsgtr on February 12, 2014, 04:29:09 PM
Looking at owners manual and at the stand on the bike I would say the strip down is to aid access to the two nuts that are inside the bike frame. With a thin profile open ended spanner I would say it is a doable job without complete strip down as per the workshop manual.
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on February 12, 2014, 04:52:30 PM
Sounds good, I do have some small ratchet spanners that might from what you've described be just the job.
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: pembsgtr on February 20, 2014, 11:04:15 AM
I've looked at the centre stand removal and getting a spanner of any sort onto the nuts that are alongside the rear shock lower mount is going to be a struggle to get off. Think I'll go for the wire brush and smooth rite option. May be a bit easier if the bike was raised up on a bike lift.
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on February 20, 2014, 02:42:34 PM
I didn't think you would give up so easily.  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on March 19, 2014, 03:52:44 PM
Well I didn't bottle it like Viv, I have the centre stand off and what a  :censored:  it is to get off!

Basically although there are only two bolts holding the centre stand in place (and a spring) it was never going to be that easy.

You cant get to the bolt nuts from the stand without dropping the shock adjuster, oh and you cant fully and easily get to the shock adjuster fastenings without first removing the rear section of the standard exhaust. I'm not saying that you wont be lucky and be able to loosen the shock release bolts without removing the exhaust but if your bolts are as seized on as mine were this morning to make matters easier for yourself, give yourself plenty of room by removing the exhaust. The bolts which go through the stand have nuts to the rear which aren't tagged to the frame so unless you clear the shock, the bolts, assuming you actually get them moving will just spin and spin. Once you've dropped the shock its very easy to get a spanner in there and onto the appropriate nuts from the stand bolts.

Hopefully that makes sense.

So finally the stand was off and here it is, looking at the condition of it, its easy to see why you may have some difficulty in removing the required bolts. Obviously it gets bombarded with all the crap on the road, hence its current condition.


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It may look bad but it'll come up a treat after its been lovingly powder coated. I'll post some pics of it once I get it back, should be a vast improvement.
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: viper on March 19, 2014, 10:58:25 PM
thanks for putting that on, my centre stand is in good nick but next winter I may take off and hammerite up anyway.
I recently took my shocker out and I too had to remove the exhaust to get to the bolt that holds the lower part of the shocker in. When I reassembled I put the bolt back in with the nut of the bolt on the opposite side, so in future I wont need to remove the exhaust .
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on March 19, 2014, 11:51:23 PM
Viper, while the centre stand is off at least I can get to the underside of the bike which I am going to clean up tomorrow. Incidentally, one of the bolts on the shock was so tight it could only be released with an impact driver.
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Kwikasfuki on March 20, 2014, 12:19:00 AM
Just to powder coat it?????

The world is going mad I tell ya
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Ant on March 20, 2014, 05:38:53 AM
Not bad going......to say its took you a month !!   :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on March 20, 2014, 09:40:47 AM
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on March 20, 2014, 12:19:00 AM
Just to powder coat it?????

The world is going mad I tell ya


:mfr_lol: Didn't you only very recently do a complete front and rear brake fluid drain, just because you could?  :popcorn:


I've no further questions M'Lord.  :yes:
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on March 20, 2014, 09:41:26 AM
Quote from: Ant on March 20, 2014, 05:38:53 AM
Not bad going......to say its took you a month !!   :mfr_lol:


Life must be so easy when you don't work shifts!  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Ant on March 20, 2014, 03:25:20 PM
I actually used to get more done when I did work shifts, can't say id like to go back to them though...... :no:
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: viper on March 20, 2014, 07:47:29 PM
don't think id waste money on a powdercoat for something under the bike. Good preparation and 2 thin coats or hammerite will suffice . you can check it each time you do an oil change and retouch when needed
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Rusty on March 20, 2014, 08:06:37 PM
That's going to look really good when it's done but  :eek: :eek: ... It's in a really bad state Steve .. I'm quite shocked !
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on March 20, 2014, 08:49:54 PM
For the sake of £15 to have it tarted up I thought what the hell go for it. It is quite a mess.
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Kwikasfuki on March 21, 2014, 01:14:03 PM
Yeah, its absolutely disgusting Steve. You've really let go of your bike ...
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on March 21, 2014, 08:40:21 PM
Picked up the centre stand this afternoon and what a transformation. On top of that they only charged me £10. I'll post a pic tomorrow when I can take one in daylight. Definitely worth the trouble to do it though.
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on March 22, 2014, 08:56:32 PM
They say a picture speaks a thousand words, for the sake of £10 this is what I now have.  :clap:


(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/Fingers/DSCN4819_zps5cf15d0e.jpg) (http://s151.photobucket.com/user/Jaffa_Cake101/media/Fingers/DSCN4819_zps5cf15d0e.jpg.html)


(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/Fingers/DSCN4820_zpsafc2eca8.jpg) (http://s151.photobucket.com/user/Jaffa_Cake101/media/Fingers/DSCN4820_zpsafc2eca8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Kwikasfuki on March 22, 2014, 09:18:30 PM
Looks good but I still stand by my original question. Why?
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: viper on March 22, 2014, 10:11:46 PM
I stand corrected , for  £10 powder coat is the way to go!






stand.. see what I did there!
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on March 22, 2014, 10:30:04 PM
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on March 22, 2014, 09:18:30 PM
Looks good but I still stand by my original question. Why?


Because it looked bloody awful.  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on March 22, 2014, 10:32:35 PM
Quote from: viper on March 22, 2014, 10:11:46 PM
I stand corrected , for  £10 powder coat is the way to go!






stand.. see what I did there!






:ohplease:  Don't give up your day job. Looks ok doesn't it?
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Rusty on March 22, 2014, 10:44:15 PM
Unintentional pun ? " I STAND corrected "  :clap: Well ... that's fantastic .. what good work and how much better your bike will look in the Scottish piccies later this year !
Anal it may sound but if you don't look after your centre stand and it gets rusty/weakened or damaged AND you can't see it because of the poor condition one day you will pull it up and over it goes as the entire centre stand collapses as does your pride and joy. :yes: Always give it a wipe and clean as you do the rest of the bike .... if indeed you do  :whistling: :whistling:
Title: Re: Centre stand removal.
Post by: Lonewolf on April 05, 2014, 08:04:57 PM
I had the stand refitted yesterday and it looks brill.  :clap: