I just got the new Michelin PR4's yesterday and had em mounted up, I went with the GT's and 55 rear... :smiley:
It also gave me an excuse to see what my black wheels would look like with the red bodywork instead of the gold, so I had those put on as well... :wink: :grin:
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Well Z.G you've just gone and done it again haven't you :mfr_lol:
The bike looks stunning, however I'm really not sure which wheel colour combination that I like the best, I think maybe the Gold for me with the Red paintset although the Black does look good....mmmmmmmmm I'm not sure :no:
BTW the PR4s seem to have plenty deep sipes, :yes: its my guess that you can't wait to get out and break them in.......maybe the weather is stopping play ??
The Ohlins Road and Track Forks are mighty fine. Guess who had a set on his R1!
Very yummy!
Looking good as usual .... Was that rain droplets I could see on the screen ????
Quote from: O.C. on January 08, 2014, 07:18:18 PM
Well Z.G you've just gone and done it again haven't you :mfr_lol:
The bike looks stunning, however I'm really not sure which wheel colour combination that I like the best, I think maybe the Gold for me with the Red paintset although the Black does look good....mmmmmmmmm I'm not sure :no:
BTW the PR4s seem to have plenty deep sipes, :yes: its my guess that you can't wait to get out and break them in.......maybe the weather is stopping play ??
Thanks OC! :smiley:
Ya, Michelin is claiming 20% longer life and better wet grip over the PR3's, I can't wait to get em scuffed up a bit and out ripping around dry or wet... :punk:
Quote from: tommytool on January 08, 2014, 11:22:42 PM
The Ohlins Road and Track Forks are mighty fine. Guess who had a set on his R1!
Very yummy!
Thanks TT, ya I love the Ohlins! :clap:
Quote from: Rusty on January 09, 2014, 12:31:02 AM
Looking good as usual .... Was that rain droplets I could see on the screen ????
Thanks Rusty! :smiley:
Ya, it was a wet one yesterday, and today, and the rest of the week... :cry:
Please let us know how you get on with the PR4's ( specially compared to the PR3's).
Will be interesting to know.
Deon
Could you tell me where you got the tank pads please? Been looking for similar in uk but not been able to find anything, cheers
Jay is in Oregon in the Pacific North West, better known as the Pacific North Wet. :yes:
Oregon gets about the same average annual rainfall that we get in the UK but between the rain the weather is nicer than here.
Good wet weather tyres are a must there, same as here.
If I were to emigrate to the USA, Oregon or north California would be my choices.
Milder climate generally and very nice area apart from the earthquake/tsunami risks. :no:
Jay, do let us know how you get on with the PR4s day to day.
I'll soon be needing a new front and was planning to try the PR4 but you've beaten me to it.
As for the colours, I still prefer the green or black with black wheels.
Red bikes are too "shouty" for me.
I would imagine as probably most of us would too that the 4,s will be just as good as the 3's .. technology these days is so quick to move on that whatever they bring out its going to be "better" than before ... I too look forward to hearing what you think ! :yes:
Quote from: Hrcblade on January 09, 2014, 06:15:01 AM
Could you tell me where you got the tank pads please? Been looking for similar in uk but not been able to find anything, cheers
Here ya go bro... great product IMO! :smiley:
http://techspec-usa.com/magento/
Quote from: Deon on January 09, 2014, 05:46:20 AM
Please let us know how you get on with the PR4's ( specially compared to the PR3's).
Will be interesting to know.
Deon
Will do Deon, I've gone through 2 sets of the PR3's and found them to be the best tires yet for this bike, so if these are any improvement over those I'll be very happy indeed! :punk:
Quote from: Boomer on January 09, 2014, 08:25:57 AM
Jay is in Oregon in the Pacific North West, better known as the Pacific North Wet. :yes:
Oregon gets about the same average annual rainfall that we get in the UK but between the rain the weather is nicer than here.
Good wet weather tyres are a must there, same as here.
If I were to emigrate to the USA, Oregon or north California would be my choices.
Milder climate generally and very nice area apart from the earthquake/tsunami risks. :no:
Jay, do let us know how you get on with the PR4s day to day.
I'll soon be needing a new front and was planning to try the PR4 but you've beaten me to it.
As for the colours, I still prefer the green or black with black wheels.
Red bikes are too "shouty" for me.
Yep, Boom is spot in, here in the PNW where I live we get a lot of rain for sure, so that should put these PR4's to the ultimate test! :wink: :grin:
Quote from: ZG on January 09, 2014, 02:56:59 PM
Here ya go bro... great product IMO! :smiley:
http://techspec-usa.com/magento/
Cheers thank you, bike looks lovely
Quote from: Hrcblade on January 09, 2014, 09:02:30 PM
Cheers thank you, bike looks lovely
You can also get them here..
http://www.speedycom.co.uk/shop/product.php?productid=18809
Thank you
So ZG, it has been two weeks, what are your first comments about the PR4 handlings? Did you get the chance to ride yet?
Quote from: frenchbiker on January 26, 2014, 12:03:10 PM
So ZG, it has been two weeks, what are your first comments about the PR4 handlings? Did you get the chance to ride yet?
I've put about 400 miles on them, so far so good and I like them, nothing too aggressive yet though as most of the good twisty roads have a ton of gravel on them due to the icy weather every now and then this time of year here in the PNW.
Ok, good to know, any noticeable handling difference on wet?
Quote from: frenchbiker on January 27, 2014, 02:25:16 PM
Ok, good to know, any noticeable handling difference on wet?
Nothing earth shattering yet over my PR3's (that I ran for 2 sets), but I also haven't ridden too hard yet up in the twisties, mostly just commuting to work this time of year but I do take the scenic route to the office which does have some nice elevation changes and turns in it, but again so much gravel out this time of year I don't get too aggressive in the turns during the PNW winter...
Ordered a set today. PR4 GT ,120/70 + 190/55. (Michelin don't have the regular PR4 in 170 width for my brothers ZRX 1100 and the GT would be to stiff for that bike, so he got a 120/70 PR4 front and a 170/60 PR3 rear). So next weekend there will be tire/oil/battery/steering + wheel bearing changing party on our rides with some help from beer and whiskey. :smiley: Won't be able to give ane feedback until april. (Riding season is definitely over in Sweden now, sub zero temperature in the whole country 24/7, brrrrr )
Wow... You should keep the rear 50. profile! I don't think you'll be happy with 55. profile!
Quote from: Hans on January 28, 2014, 06:53:49 PM
Wow... You should keep the rear 50. profile! I don't think you'll be happy with 55. profile!
Why not? A raised rear end = less rake, That together with a higher profile will make the steer-in quicker. Theres a lot of GTr1400 running with 55 profiles and the pilots of those seem happy. :smiley: I rotated the excentric chain adjuster 180 degree on my rex to raise the rear+ slightly longer ohlin shocks resulting in a significant higher rear with much quicker steering response. The only thing thats worrying me is that my newly purchased hugger won't fit under the higher profile tire. Time and a lot of maintenace-beer will tell.
Because my experience tells me that it does not actually produce good results on GTR 1400. Last year I had a long test run with Bridgestone and PR3, where I had mounted 55 profile. Control and management in high speed (driving straight - autobahn) seemed very loose (speed over 160km/h). Swing Drive (Alps) required a lot of adjustment to get the best line. I should generally work intensively with steering.
On the other hand - and positive - when the speed was reduced and there was co-driver and outings mounted, it was far better comfort due to the higher profile.
It will be interesting to hear your experience .....
Hmm.
Interesting point. Of all the threads on zggtr.org, no one (of the ones I found) mention trouble with high speed stability with 55 profile.
Other than hugger fitting and slightly higher seat I havent realy seen any negative opinions. You didn't mention this yourself in your tire test reports in previous threads, Hans.
Well, I might stall the order on my rear tire and take a second thought. Would be interesting to hear ZG:s thoughts on this matter.
50 or 55 profile on PR4? :huh:
Quote from: bacaruda on January 29, 2014, 12:54:20 AM
Hmm.
Interesting point. Of all the threads on zggtr.org, no one (of the ones I found) mention trouble with high speed stability with 55 profile.
Other than hugger fitting and slightly higher seat I havent realy seen any negative opinions. You didn't mention this yourself in your tire test reports in previous threads, Hans.
Well, I might stall the order on my rear tire and take a second thought. Would be interesting to hear ZG:s thoughts on this matter.
50 or 55 profile on PR4? :huh:
I've always ran a 50 rear, but with this set I'm trying out the 55 rear. No issues with my rear hugger fitting, it did raise the seat a little though, which isn't great for me as I am on the shorter side. I haven't noticed any issues with high speed stability at all with the 55 so far. :undecided:
PR4 GT's fitted yesterday replacing Avon Storm 2 ultras, If the PR4 are an improvement on PR2's I ran on a Triumph Sprint 1050 they should be awesome.
My set of PR4:s awaits rims at my rubber-dealer. I managed to change my order to 190/50 instead of 190/55. As an engineer I learned to only change one parameter at a time while testing. Presently my GTR has worn-out OEM-Bridgestone-chong-shop-wothless-squared-out crap tyre, so I need a better reference before I put on 55-profile. Start with a set of 50-profile and then try a 55-profile of the same brand and type (PR4 GT).
11000 miles on the PR4 GT 190/50 made me a believer. (was kind of in love with Pilot Road even before. lol) Fantastic tire but needs a replacement. Gonna get my rear TPS replaced under warranty next week and might do the change at the same time. hope my new set will arrive from germany in time.
I stated earlier that I was going to try a 55-profile next, but I like the behaviour of the big lump so much that I think I will stay with 50 profile. Stable as a rock and still quick enough for me in the twisties. The rear is pretty worn out, but 11000 miles (major part of it heavy loaded) ... Im impressed. Great rubber.
Quote from: ZG on January 09, 2014, 02:59:18 PM
Will do Deon, I've gone through 2 sets of the PR3's and found them to be the best tires yet for this bike, so if these are any improvement over those I'll be very happy indeed! :punk:
what mileage did you get from the PR3s
Quote from: pross on October 02, 2014, 01:35:19 PM
what mileage did you get from the PR3s
About 5k miles on the 3's, but when I ride I ride pretty spirited and try to avoid any slabbing if possible...