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Title: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Ant on November 07, 2013, 09:16:44 PM
The website so you can view progress is HERE (http://ac-caravans.co.uk/ac-lrp.html)

Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Kwikasfuki on November 07, 2013, 09:22:25 PM
Oooo, an early xmas present! Is there a discount if you buy both sets? (might as well ask as I know someone else will ask that shortly!)
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Kwikasfuki on November 07, 2013, 11:04:58 PM
Ordered with shipping discount
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Charlie747 on November 09, 2013, 12:39:52 AM
Quote from: Ant on November 07, 2013, 09:16:44 PM
Ok folks, its taken its time to get sorted out, but the Canyon Cages from MC Enterprises should be available from week commencing 18/11/2013 all being well.

The website so you can view whats available at present, including prices is HERE (http://ac-caravans.co.uk/ac-lrp.html)

Provisional orders are now being taken....

What's the contact address?
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Ant on November 09, 2013, 08:00:20 AM
Sorry, now updated.... :wacko:
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Debs on November 09, 2013, 01:55:49 PM
Quote from: Ant on November 09, 2013, 08:00:20 AM
Sorry, now updated.... :wacko:

Is this your site Ant?
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Ant on November 09, 2013, 02:18:56 PM
Yes Deb
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Debs on November 09, 2013, 02:40:26 PM
Quote from: Ant on November 09, 2013, 02:18:56 PM
Yes Deb, had a lot of interest on the 'other make'  :whistling: of tourer cages too, so seemed logical to help anyone out with the GTR cages.

Hopefully going to stock more bits from MC in the near future.   :clap:

Thats awesome Ant... When I change to a newer model I will be after a set...  :clap:
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Ant on November 09, 2013, 03:14:39 PM
Thats good to know, and I can see why looking at that picture of Baby on its side.....the bars quite simply paid for themselves on that one occasion.

Wish I had had some on when I laid mine down in France this year, luckily a passer by managed to help me just before it had full weight on its side else the top fairing would have cracked meaning a lot of £££'s to repair. Still ended up with a ripped calf though and a bent crash bung -----never putting them on again, bikes too heavy.

Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Lonewolf on November 10, 2013, 01:15:25 AM
Ant please correct me if my sums are wrong.

If we bought them direct from the US I understand they would cost us $300 for the Canyon Cages & $175 for the pannier guards plus $106 for shipping. That's $581 which is approximately £364 for everything, front and rear protection including shipping.


You're selling the Canyon Cages for £239 & the pannier guards for £140, so £379 in total.  I thought we were going to try and organise a group buy to bring the price down.

Apologies if I've got the figures/prices wrong but the price seems to have gone up.
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Kwikasfuki on November 10, 2013, 02:01:43 AM
According to my calculations:

$300 + $175 + $106 = $581

Which is £368.80 in English money

Now lets add in the Uk taxes

3.7% of £368.80 customs = £13.65 + £368.80 = £382.45
20 of £382.45 vat = £76.49 + £382.45  = £458.94

£15 handling charge (estimated) = £15 + 458.94 = £473.94

So I make the cost of an individual purchasing it from the states directly to be £474

I reckon its a saving of about £107 if you can negotiate the local shipping

Also bear in mind that AC-LRP direct must confirm with UK consumer law which protects the purchase, and would have to deal with any warrantly issues etc

You can use this site to calculate the duty: http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/ (http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/)

Note it doesn't add in the handling fees with Royal Mail and others charge
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Ant on November 10, 2013, 07:09:48 AM
Thats pretty much correct Asif.

Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: viper on November 10, 2013, 11:43:50 AM
Quote from: Lonewolf on November 10, 2013, 01:15:25 AM
Ant please correct me if my sums are wrong.

If we bought them direct from the US I understand they would cost us $300 for the Canyon Cages & $175 for the pannier guards plus $106 for shipping. That's $581 which is approximately £364 for everything, front and rear protection including shipping.


You're selling the Canyon Cages for £239 & the pannier guards for £140, so £379 in total.  I thought we were going to try and organise a group buy to bring the price down.

Apologies if I've got the figures/prices wrong but the price seems to have gone up.

in a nutshell , you are forgetting about the 20% and other incoming charges, even if Ryan marked them as a gift , you would still have to pay under new laws.
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Kwikasfuki on November 10, 2013, 12:54:13 PM
Quote from: viper on November 10, 2013, 11:43:50 AM
even if Ryan marked them as a gift , you would still have to pay under new laws.

As they say, only two certainties in life: death and taxes
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Stephen.Stallebrass on November 10, 2013, 03:07:02 PM
Quote from: Ant on November 10, 2013, 07:09:48 AM...only a few available with a little discount for forum members...

So how much for both sets (front & rear) with UK shipping and forum discount?

Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Ant on November 10, 2013, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: Stephen.Stallebrass on November 10, 2013, 03:07:02 PM
So how much for both sets (front & rear) with UK shipping and forum discount?

PM sent
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Charlie747 on November 10, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
Come on Ant what's the big secret on pricing to members........................After you cut us all out of a group purchase a little bit of transparency is needed.
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Ant on November 10, 2013, 08:47:09 PM
Quote from: Charlie747 on November 10, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
Come on Ant what's the big secret on pricing to members........................After you cut us all out of a group purchase a little bit of transparency is needed.

Its an open forum Charlie, you don't have to be a member to read the posts, so if your interested please contact AC-LRP

Ant
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Charlie747 on November 10, 2013, 09:27:35 PM
Quote from: Ant on November 10, 2013, 08:47:09 PM
Its an open forum Charlie, you don't have to be a member to read the posts, so if your interested please contact AC-LRP

Ant

Thank you Ant

I still await reply from direct contact with your company in the form of an email sent the other day.

This I trust is a new company glitch and not typical of the level of customer service we can expect ?

Charlie
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Ant on November 10, 2013, 09:39:23 PM
Quote from: Charlie747 on November 10, 2013, 09:27:35 PM
Thank you Ant

I still await reply from direct contact with your company in the form of an email sent the other day.

This I trust is a new company glitch and not typical of the level of customer service we can expect ?

Charlie

Absolutely not, unless your name is  'General S.H Bello'  'Rolex'  'Best of the Best Casino' or 'surprise'... i'm afraid there is no email in my spam or inbox.

please try again as no one else has had a problem.

Ant
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Charlie747 on November 10, 2013, 09:43:01 PM
Quote from: Ant on November 10, 2013, 09:39:23 PM
Absolutely not, unless your name is  'General S.H Bello'  'Rolex'  'Best of the Best Casino' or 'surprise'... i'm afraid there is no email in my spam or inbox.

please try again as no one else has had a problem.

Ant

:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Charlie747 on November 10, 2013, 09:50:58 PM
So how much for both sets (front & rear) with UK shipping and forum discount?
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Charlie747 on November 12, 2013, 08:27:30 PM
Hi Ant

Hope all is well at your end as I've not yet received your PM ref prices

Charlie
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Charlie747 on November 13, 2013, 10:59:40 AM
Quote from: Charlie747 on November 12, 2013, 08:27:30 PM
Hi Ant

Hope all is well at your end as I've not yet received your PM ref prices

Charlie

Thanks for your PM
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Kwikasfuki on November 17, 2013, 10:03:16 AM
Any update on these Ant?
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: tommytool on November 17, 2013, 10:27:49 AM
I'm totally flummoxed now - I want a pair for the front and would join in a group buy. Is it me but It seems that any group planning here goes down the tubes!

T- shirts, 2013 meet, etc.

I bet the organisational skills amongst the Munich brigade are better than ours - even the Hinckley lot as well !  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Ant on November 17, 2013, 10:49:26 AM
Hi all, Im assured they are being despatched early next week, so I may have them Friday to go out ( I wish !!! )  :surrender:

This is now not happening, so may as well look at doing them myself as I have the necessary contacts to make something similar. Will keep you posted........
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on November 20, 2013, 09:15:54 PM
Quote from: Ant on November 17, 2013, 10:49:26 AM
Hi all, Im assured they are being despatched early next week, so I may have them Friday to go out ( I wish !!! )  :surrender:

This is now not happening, so may as well look at doing them myself as I have the necessary contacts to make something similar. Will keep you posted........

In order to get a good shipping rate, we used a special shipping company for this particular order due to its size. However, they don't service our specific area daily so we had to schedule the pickup for Wednesday instead of the Monday or Tuesday date I was aiming for. The order has now been cancelled due to this slight delay. If any of you guys are still interested in purchasing these parts, you can do so directly from us as they're currently in stock. I'd hate for the end customers who really want the product to be the ones to suffer so I'd be willing to cover $25 of the shipping cost to the U.K. for those that do decide to order.
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: viper on November 20, 2013, 09:44:23 PM
what ! cancelled due to a 1 day delay in collection. mmmmm  Ant has messaged us with a slightly different  reason .

Those RG bars are now starting to look a better option , sorry guys but its all getting a bit messy
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Lonewolf on November 20, 2013, 09:46:41 PM
I've just sent Ryan a PM trying to clarify this situation.
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on November 20, 2013, 10:23:03 PM
Quote from: viper on November 20, 2013, 09:44:23 PM
what ! cancelled due to a 1 day delay in collection. mmmmm  Ant has messaged us with a slightly different  reason .

I heard. However they were inaccurate assumptions, unfortunately. We do indeed do all manufacturing in house aside from the powder coating and chroming. If any of you guys have visited the other Concours forums (ZGGTR or COG) and/or seen our product "build" threads, it's popular opinion that we're a great company to work with that manufactures quality accessories.

We moved facilities at the beginning of this year to a recently renovated, 30,000 sq. ft. facility which was previously owned by Titan Fabrication who is related to us in absolutely no way, shape, or form. As far as our dealers having difficulty getting these products, that's because most dealers purchase through national distributors who haven't yet begun purchasing this specific product in large quantities even though they've been some of our hottest sellers. However, more and more dealers have begun coming directly to us for these and have no problem attaining product that way.

I emailed Ant on Thursday letting him know that the product would go out early the following week (we work 4, 10 hour days so we're closed Friday, Saturday, and Sunday). However, we used a special shipping company that we use from time to time that only handles bulk shipments in order to save on shipping and I wasn't personally aware until very recently that they don't service our area daily because I'm not usually the one who deals with this specific shipping company. So, the only day to schedule pickup was Wednesday. I was actually going to email Ant this morning when I got in the office to notify him that the product was leaving today and supply him the invoice but when I got to the office I saw his email that he wanted to cancel the order.

It's a bummer that after all that he decided to cancel especially because the end customer is the one who suffers from it. If any of you guys would still like this product, it is in stock and ready to ship out and, as I mentioned, would be willing to cover $25 of the shipping cost for you. Feel free to PM me or email me directly if you have any questions or would like to order.
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: viper on November 20, 2013, 10:53:33 PM
Quote from: RyanMCEnterprises on November 20, 2013, 10:23:03 PM
I heard. However they were inaccurate assumptions, unfortunately. We do indeed do all manufacturing in house aside from the powder coating and chroming. If any of you guys have visited the other Concours forums (ZGGTR or COG) and/or seen our product "build" threads, it's popular opinion that we're a great company to work with that manufactures quality accessories.

We moved facilities at the beginning of this year to a recently renovated, 30,000 sq. ft. facility which was previously owned by Titan Fabrication who is related to us in absolutely no way, shape, or form. As far as our dealers having difficulty getting these products, that's because most dealers purchase through national distributors who haven't yet begun purchasing this specific product in large quantities even though they've been some of our hottest sellers. However, more and more dealers have begun coming directly to us for these and have no problem attaining product that way.

I emailed Ant on Thursday letting him know that the product would go out early the following week (we work 4, 10 hour days so we're closed Friday, Saturday, and Sunday). However, we used a special shipping company that we use from time to time that only handles bulk shipments in order to save on shipping and I wasn't personally aware until very recently that they don't service our area daily because I'm not usually the one who deals with this specific shipping company. So, the only day to schedule pickup was Wednesday. I was actually going to email Ant this morning when I got in the office to notify him that the product was leaving today and supply him the invoice but when I got to the office I saw his email that he wanted to cancel the order.

It's a bummer that after all that he decided to cancel especially because the end customer is the one who suffers from it. If any of you guys would still like this product, it is in stock and ready to ship out and, as I mentioned, would be willing to cover $25 of the shipping cost for you. Feel free to PM me or email me directly if you have any questions or would like to order.

thanks for taking the trouble to explain . sorry to hear that the deal fell through .
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on November 20, 2013, 11:10:49 PM
Quote from: viper on November 20, 2013, 10:53:33 PM
thanks for taking the trouble to explain . sorry to hear that the deal fell through .

No problem! Yea, it's a bummer that the deal fell through after all of that especially because, as I mentioned, the end customer is the one who ends up losing out.
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: gwocni on November 30, 2013, 06:59:59 PM
Not being able to get the Canyon bars here I bought a set at the NEC bike show this week from R&G. I saw them in the flesh and decided that they would be fine, especially having spoken to a cop who had his GTR pushed over on him with no ill effects. They may be a little "lighter" than the Canyon Cages but I feel they look a little better imho. I still will buy the rear Canyons when available here as I feel they are the best available atm.
Cost of R&Gs at the show was £185 delivered. Fitted in an hour today and look excellent :)
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Bryan on December 01, 2013, 05:59:21 PM
Hello, just joined the forum - glad to have found it. Got my GTR earlier this year and I love it. But.... I dropped it a few months back - when I was stationary!!!! Not too much damage but would love to get these Canyon Cages from a UK company if I can. However, the website link that was in one of the earlier posts doesn't seem to work - can someone help. Many thanks, Bryan
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Bryan on December 01, 2013, 06:45:58 PM
sorry, not being that familiar with the site I see that Ryan has already posted that the deal fell through. Indeed it is a bummer. Cheers, Bryan
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Ant on December 01, 2013, 10:21:06 PM
Yes it has unfortunately, for several reasons that I won't go into.....

I don't have a problem with people ordering direct from them or getting the R & G bars, BUT, i am developing some of my own of which the template is almost done. I hopefully can produce some bars that will serve their purpose, look good and be readily available ( off the shelf ) and priced very competitively. 
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: viper on December 02, 2013, 07:46:17 PM
Quote from: Ant on December 01, 2013, 10:21:06 PM
Yes it has unfortunately, for several reasons that I won't go into.....

I don't have a problem with people ordering direct from them or getting the R & G bars, BUT, i am developing some of my own of which the template is almost done. I hopefully can produce some bars that will serve their purpose, look good and be readily available ( off the shelf ) and priced very competitively.

really looking forward to this ant, any ideas on the look , rg v cc, material thickness, colour , rear guards as well ?
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Ant on December 02, 2013, 08:02:34 PM
What I plan to do is have the prototype fitted to my bike and then you can give me your thoughts, if anything needs changing that I / you think I've missed i'll work from there.
They won't be like the RG bars, similar to the CC's. My biggest challenge ATM is making them for easy removal or simple fairing mod to allow fairing  removal.
The rear guards are actually more important than the front if it goes to ground on its own --- a lot of expensive stuff on the back, and I also am trying to put the guard under the pannier more so as not to interfere with pillion feet.... or the Mrs will be moaning !!!!  :yes:

Staying around the 20 - 24mm steel as it takes around 12 ton to bend this stuff, BUT, stronger tube is not always best, at a certain point it needs to give or you end up with frame damage !!!    I'm on the case....
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Stephen.Stallebrass on December 02, 2013, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: Ant on December 02, 2013, 08:02:34 PMWhat I plan to do is have the prototype fitted to my bike... I'm on the case.

So how long before we get to see something on your bike?
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Ant on December 02, 2013, 08:38:24 PM
Before Xmas if I think its right. { i say before xmas to be safe, but could be next week }
I may just spray one black for the time being for veiwing rather than wait for powder coating.
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: Stephen.Stallebrass on December 03, 2013, 12:47:02 AM
Quote from: Ant on December 02, 2013, 08:38:24 PMBefore Xmas if I think its right... but could be next week

Spendid, Pip Pip.
Title: Re: Canyon cages from within the UK
Post by: viper on December 03, 2013, 08:37:38 AM
 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: