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Title: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: viper on September 22, 2013, 09:36:36 PM
currently got the zumo 550 always been happy with it , noticed that 2nd hand with the box and all accessories sell on ebay for about £330, the 660 version is about £400 or even less new. I fancy the idea of upgrading to the 660 , larger screen and flat.

any views on the 660, is it as good/ better/worse

I know some guys like the tomtom , but we all have garmins in our cars at home and we don't have any real gripes with the garmin
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Rusty on September 22, 2013, 09:50:30 PM
I had the 660 on the Gtr .. now with Asif ... and it was a great bit of kit. I went for it over the TT simply because I kept hearing that the G customer service was excellent and the TT customer service was the complete opposite. There may be others here with stories to tell but I would go for the Garmin 660. Around £440 or a bit less for brand spanking new I believe.
The BM Navigator IV Sat Nav ( which is on my shopping list ) is simply a 660 with a blue and white badge on it ... and my view is that if the Germans are going to put their name to it then it must be good. Get one.   :yes: :yes:
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Winston Smith on September 22, 2013, 10:25:48 PM
Zumo 660 is an excellent bit of kit.

Garmin back up is first class too.

Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: viper on September 23, 2013, 10:09:10 AM
thanks guys.   I was intrigued that the used price of the 550 is so high in comparison to the new value of a 660, thought the prices were saying that the 550 was better.

im going to sell my 550 in December and upgrade to a 660 in jan and take advantage of the seasonal  pricing / ability to sell :clap:
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: O.C. on September 23, 2013, 11:05:11 AM
Used to swear by TT and still maintain that their customer service is outstanding, ...I used it once and they sent me a brand new recon unit F.O.C  :clap:

However I've had a Garmin 660 for a couple of years now, and apart from having to initially adjust to the different operating system I now love it

I can recommend Garmin 660, I don't know how much extra you currently pay for the LM (Lifetime Maps) model
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Andy on September 23, 2013, 11:43:24 AM
Lifetime map upgrade option is about £75. Struggled to download USA maps and had to buy a Garmin SD card in US :-( I've got some spare 660 screen protectors if anyone wants a (free) one for a stamp :-)
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Kevin on September 23, 2013, 01:19:57 PM
Quote from: Andy on September 23, 2013, 11:43:24 AM
Lifetime map upgrade option is about £75. Struggled to download USA maps and had to buy a Garmin SD card in US :-( <snip>

Lifetime Maps about £50 on Amazon.

I bought our NA map from  Garmin UK (https://buy.garmin.com/en-GB/GB/maps/on-the-road-maps/city-navigator-nt/city-navigator-north-america-nt/prod1456.html) as a download (also available on DVD or SD).

Kevin
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: doebag on September 23, 2013, 02:23:51 PM
I have only ever used Garmin.................

550/660.
660 has more features,biger screen
550 can be locked to its mounting, meaning you don't have to remove it every time your bike is out of sight
660 easily removed, take it with you at rest stops for altering routes etc in comfort drinking tea, rather than balanced on bike.
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Martin#30 on September 23, 2013, 03:16:04 PM
£330? £440????

Am I the only cheapskate with a £80 car satnav and a freezer bag to keep the rain off?  :mfr_lol:

Martin.
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: O.C. on September 23, 2013, 04:09:58 PM
Quote from: Martin#30 on September 23, 2013, 03:16:04 PM
£330? £440????

Am I the only cheapskate with a £80 car satnav and a freezer bag to keep the rain off?  :mfr_lol:

Martin.

Probably not Martin :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: tommytool on September 23, 2013, 05:23:18 PM
As I have the homing ability of a racing pigeon I will shortly be selling my 550. I wont be getting the 660 though - I dont use a sat nav enough to warrant the expense - 1 big Europe trip a year and 13k miles traversing the A303 doesnt justify.

I reckon the 500/550 hold their value due to their build quality - they are rugged and a half.
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Charlie747 on September 23, 2013, 09:46:57 PM
Quote from: Martin#30 on September 23, 2013, 03:16:04 PM
£330? £440????

Am I the only cheapskate with a £80 car satnav and a freezer bag to keep the rain off?  :mfr_lol:

Martin.

Nop...................I'm with you on this one Martin  :banana:
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Boomer on September 24, 2013, 08:18:42 AM
I'm with Tommy. I have a 5 year old Garmin Nuvi 205 that rarely gets used.
I use my phone with Google Maps more often than anything else.
Actually, most often I look up the route on my tablet and just memorise it.
One of my pet hates on the road is people paying more attention to or fiddling with their SatNav.
Why do so many people find it so hard to make DRIVING THE CAR/BIKE their #1 Priority?
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: winnsworld on September 24, 2013, 08:40:51 AM
I'm with Boomer on this one. I have an old TomTom Rider v1 which I use to locate specific hotels, etc. leaving me to enjoy the spontaneity of reading road signs and making a quick decision which way to go.... I've got a reasonably goo sense of direction however, now that I have stuck a compass on my dashboard, the worlds' my oyster (so to speak)!
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: O.C. on September 24, 2013, 11:15:52 AM
We don't and won't be touring on the same scale as we used to do, so don't need a Sat Nag as much these days, but my directional instincts are close to zero, so its a 'stand by' in case of need  :yes:

My Sat Nag doesn't interfere with my riding or concentration, as its connected via Bluetooth/Starcom Digital to speakers within my helmet, so I'm not visually detracted by it in any way, at least none more so than looking at scenery  :wink:
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Boomer on September 24, 2013, 11:57:33 AM
Scenery? Oh, you mean that blur either side of the black ribbon with it's white lines and obstacles (cars).  :mfr_lol:
I have to admit to also having a good sense of direction and I enjoy getting lost.
Over the years I've found some very interesting places by getting lost, or more precisely not caring a hoot where I am or where I'm going.
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Kevin on September 24, 2013, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: doebag on September 23, 2013, 02:23:51 PM
I have only ever used Garmin.................

550/660.
660 has more features,biger screen
550 can be locked to its mounting, meaning you don't have to remove it every time your bike is out of sight
660 easily removed, take it with you at rest stops for altering routes etc in comfort drinking tea, rather than balanced on bike.

:sad: 550 can only take 1000 music tracks
:smiley: 550 is much more visible in sunlight than a 660
:smiley: 550 cable can easily be removed from the mount so mount changes are easy
:sad: Putting new European maps on a 550 is a PITA

:smiley: I'm not sure what the music track limit is on the 660 but there are over 3500 tracks on each of ours
:sad: 660 is more easily removed by a thief than a 550 (I like to leave ours on when buying petrol or having lunch so they are in Touratech lockable mounts)
:sad: 660 cable is permanently attached to the mount which probably makes it more waterproof but makes it a PITA to change a mount
:smiley: Putting new European maps on a 660 is easy as MapUpdater will automatically split the maps between internal memory and SD card
:smiley: 660's wider screen makes it much easier to display useful (to me) data to the side of the routing screen

Kevin
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Kevin on September 24, 2013, 12:03:00 PM
Quote from: Boomer on September 24, 2013, 11:57:33 AMI have to admit to also having a good sense of direction and I enjoy getting lost.
Over the years I've found some very interesting places by getting lost, or more precisely not caring a hoot where I am or where I'm going.

[nods] Those with a poor sense of direction can enjoy the same thing with a SatNav. See an interesting road? Just take it and wander as long as you like safe in the knowledge the SatNav will bring you back to your route or your destination (it may take you down a cart track on the way but that's just part of life's rich tapestry!).

Kevin
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Boomer on September 24, 2013, 03:55:12 PM
Quote from: Kevin on September 24, 2013, 12:03:00 PM
[nods] Those with a poor sense of direction can enjoy the same thing with a SatNav. See an interesting road? Just take it and wander as long as you like safe in the knowledge the SatNav will bring you back to your route or your destination (it may take you down a cart track on the way but that's just part of life's rich tapestry!).
Kevin
True,.... but SatNav users don't as they are secretly afraid that the voice will shout at them and tell the world about their filthy habits.  :no:
So, they just do as they are told and miss out on the joys of getting well and truly lost.
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: O.C. on September 24, 2013, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: Boomer on September 24, 2013, 11:57:33 AM
Scenery? Oh, you mean that blur either side of the black ribbon with it's white lines and obstacles (cars).  :mfr_lol:
I have to admit to also having a good sense of direction and I enjoy getting lost.
Over the years I've found some very interesting places by getting lost, or more precisely not caring a hoot where I am or where I'm going.

No George, I mean the scenery found here in the Lakes matey, which may be different from your regular routes  :smiley:
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Boomer on September 25, 2013, 01:41:54 PM
I doubt it as some of my perhaps less than regular routes are the hills & valleys of Provence France and the Ardennes in Belgium/France/Luxembourg.
I've ridden the Lake District and all I saw was  :censored: caravans and  :censored: old people doing 10% of the speed limit in their beige Protons.  :gun_bandana: :2guns: :death:
When I want to see the scenery I stop.  :yes:
Yes, parts are very scenic but getting there is painful.
That said even with the caravans it better than the M25!  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Charlie747 on September 25, 2013, 02:39:54 PM
Quote from: Boomer on September 25, 2013, 01:41:54 PM

I've ridden the Lake District and all I saw was  :censored: caravans and  :censored: old people doing 10% of the speed limit in their beige Protons.  :gun_bandana: :2guns: :death:

Boomer............................You didn't tell us that you wrote the Top Gear scripts  :mfr_lol:

"Some say Blushing Bradford Brides fall prematurely pregnant at his glance. Others tell of the massive mastication featuring Jelly babies in curry sauce during his filming of Nicole Kidman in bask stockings and heels. All we know is ...............................He's called

"Lonewolf"

:popcorn:
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Lonewolf on September 25, 2013, 11:30:23 PM
Charlie, you are seriously starting to concern me!  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: routemaster on September 26, 2013, 03:20:10 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24246646 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24246646)

Apart from issues with the mapping software what is perhaps more worrying is people ignoring all of the signs saying they shouldn't be there.

At work we recently closed a road whilst we replaced a road bridge. People seem to just ignore all of the road closed signs, even having to drive around some them and when they finally had to stop, as there was no more road they complained they hadn't seen any signs.

Steve
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Rusty on September 26, 2013, 10:33:47 AM
Martin .....  You are a cheapskate !  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Martin#30 on September 26, 2013, 11:20:04 AM
Quote from: Rusty on September 26, 2013, 10:33:47 AM
Martin .....  You are a cheapskate !  :mfr_lol:

Think of all the extra money I have saved by not buying bike shampoo or sponges .....  :mfr_lol:

Martin.
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Rusty on September 26, 2013, 03:11:51 PM
 :mfr_lol:
What I love about Sat Nav is that you can just ride where you want and when you get lost down that country lane or it's just time to go just push the "Home" button and off you go ......  :yes:
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: shaggs147 on September 26, 2013, 09:18:59 PM
Quote from: winnsworld on September 24, 2013, 08:40:51 AM
I'm with Boomer on this one. I have an old TomTom Rider v1 which I use to locate specific hotels, etc. leaving me to enjoy the spontaneity of reading road signs and making a quick decision which way to go.... I've got a reasonably goo sense of direction however, now that I have stuck a compass on my dashboard, the worlds' my oyster (so to speak)!

Blimey you'll be checking where the moss is on the trees next! did you use a ram mount ...... or blu tac  :wacko:
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: Boomer on September 27, 2013, 09:09:32 AM
Quote from: shaggs147 on September 26, 2013, 09:18:59 PM
Blimey you'll be checking where the moss is on the trees next! did you use a ram mount ...... or blu tac  :wacko:
Moss is useless. It grows where there is sufficient water.
Yer far better off using the sun, and when it's cloudy I use Satellite dishes.
Yes, all Sky dishes point 28 degrees East of South so a good guesstimate is easypeasy.
So, I guess I do use SatNav after all.  :mfr_lol:

Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
Post by: winnsworld on September 27, 2013, 03:28:54 PM
Quote from: shaggs147 on September 26, 2013, 09:18:59 PM
Blimey you'll be checking where the moss is on the trees next! did you use a ram mount ...... or blu tac  :wacko:

Just the sticky stuff that it had on the bottom. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Compass-Silver-Black-Dashboard-Mount-By-Carpoint-/260523581478?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Touring_Travel&hash=item3ca86a6026
Title: Re: Sat nav opinions ?
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