Just a word of warning:
After marshaling a cycle event at the weekend out of Oulton park, I found that I had picked up a couple of 4mm tack in the front tyre that some :censored: :asshole: moron :dots: had thrown on a section of the route to try and sabotage the event. This effected several of the cyclists and a few of the other Moto marshals. Managed a temporary repair using a tyre plugging kit I carry under the seat. So to get the tyre properly repaired now. Rang three tyre depot`s and two bike shops and because I have Pirelli Angel GT`s fitted I was told by all of them they are not repairable. The only tyre they were willing or would consider to repair was a Michelin.
The GT`s had only done about 2500 miles so had a new GT fitted on the front which was £115 fitted, but I think it will be back to the PR3`s when this pair need next changing which is a shame as I think the GT`s are a great tyre and the PR3`s after about 5000 were :shit: . But I dont fancy shelling out for a new tyre every time I get a puncher, especially if they`v only done a few thousand miles and we cant use a tyre sealer because of the TPS `s . So Michelin`s it will have to be then.
Has anyone had a none Michelin tyre repaired???? I`m not sure to believe them or not, or is it a sales ploy. All the other bikes I`v had I`v happily used a tyre sealer in the tyre`s with no problems.
Funny enough, picked up a puncture on a RP3 yesterday. My usual tyre supplier said repairing a 'z' rated tyre is always a challenging subject but his experience was that the glues do not work on the michelins, hence he refused to repair it
The bloody tyre has only done 400 miles and I had to shell out £150 today for another new tyre.
I sometimes worry they make it up as they go along. However given the tyre is rated for +165 mph, it is probable not worth taking the chance on a bike with such power and weight.
Alfor, your tyre repair man is incorrect. PR3's can be repaired, quite safely and legally. This topic has been discussed before and I recall that Chris, (Winston) has explained the reasons why on one of his threads. I'll have a look later and see if I can find the thread where he confirms it.
If possible I would retrieve your 400 mile tyre unless it has already been disposed of, (or repaired and put on eBay) :whistling: and get it fixed.
Here you go found it.... :clap:
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Provided it isn't in the side wall get it fixed. The PR3 is Kevlar belted and as such is repairable.
I must admit I was always lead to believe that "Z" rated tyres wouldn't/couldn't/shouldn't be repaired - which is frustrating.
The issue isn't so much whether a repair can be undertaken or not but what internal damage has been caused to the tyre construction and in particular how much of the "belts" used in the construction have been damaged - the belts play an import part in handling/distributing the forces within the tyre. There isn't anyway of checking how much damage has been caused and as the "Z" speed rating is for speeds "greater than 150mph" there is perhaps a greater risk of a failure if the tyre is used at speeds greater than 150mph - which in theory it could be but in reality is unlikely to be the case (unlike other speed ratings there is no maximum speed).
This is why most tyre manufactures don't recommend permanent repairs to their tyres (plus wanting to sell you a new tyre) and the tyre's speed rating becomes void if the tyre is repaired, retreaded, damaged or abused, or otherwise altered from its original condition.
Well, they can say what they want. I am talking of personal experience. I had my rear PR3 plugged ( mushroom plug from the inside ) over 6000Km's ago and have had no issues since then ( in fact, I had forgotten about it until I read this thread again !! ).
I would however, never have it plugged if the puncture was in the sidewall of the tyre. I also do not see why they could not plug your GT tyre.
Deon
Quote from: Lonewolf on August 21, 2013, 09:40:57 PM
Alfor, your tyre repair man is incorrect. PR3's can be repaired, quite safely and legally. This topic has been discussed before and I recall that Chris, (Winston) has explained the reasons why on one of his threads. I'll have a look later and see if I can find the thread where he confirms it.
If possible I would retrieve your 400 mile tyre unless it has already been disposed of, (or repaired and put on eBay) :whistling: and get it fixed.
:agree: the rear tyre (PR3) on my GTR was repaired by a specialist quite easily and perfectly safely,
Bugger, looks like I just wasted 150 :no:
Best get used to it, the PR3 is the most puncture prone tyre on the planet. And if I had got one in the front I would bin it as a matter of course, best to spend your dosh than be riding along thinking what if :eek:
Sixteen months I've had my PR3's on and covered 10k miles approx, no punctures and the tyres are still going strong.
Quote from: Lonewolf on August 22, 2013, 07:54:02 PM
Sixteen months I've had my PR3's on and covered 10k miles approx, no punctures and the tyres are still going strong.
YES, but there aint no nails on the M6 :yawn: :whistling:
I don't live on the M6 do I? I guess I've just been lucky.
Steve, to get 10,000 miles out of a PR3 is not luck, it's a miracle, mine were Donald ducked after less than half that :yes: :rolleyes:
I asked Nigel when we were on the last day of our Scottish trip whether he thought they needed replacing any time soon and he said definitely not, they look fine.
I'll change them in a month or two whether they need changing or not in preparation for the winter months.
Quote from: 100milesaway on August 22, 2013, 08:01:43 PM
Steve, to get 10,000 miles out of a PR3 is not luck, it's a miracle, mine were Donald ducked after less than half that :yes: :rolleyes:
LMAO :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
There is a picture somewhere on this forum of my PR3 with about 400 miles on the clock with a great big nail in it. ..... Repaired without a problem ... 1000d's of miles and a trip to Scotland no problems ... That's what makes the Michelin PR's such a good tyre !
Both Martin and myself repaired our PR3s without issues.
Nigel, here's a simple test for you, find that thread with the picture of your PR3! :popcorn:
I'm back to work on Tuesday ... I don't have enough time ! I can see the picture in my mind ... I'll have a go but a you know I have never done a DC's course so my investigative skills may not be up to,much ! :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
I had a puncture in Denmark in may. Sharp rock that looked like a arrowhead found its way into my tyr. I plugged it myself, from the outsid. The PR3 is still doing fine.