Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => Accessories, Farkels and Mods => Topic started by: Kwikasfuki on August 18, 2013, 09:35:24 PM

Title: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Kwikasfuki on August 18, 2013, 09:35:24 PM
For those of you that have the R&G bars on the GTR, do they interfere with the removal of the fairings?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: BigAlan on August 18, 2013, 10:21:33 PM
Yes, I did think I could cut a slot in the top part of the fairing to slide it around but it's no go. I can easily change the air filter with them on, gain access to the header tank for the rad but if you want to do plugs they have to come off.

In my opinion I would rather have them than not, and I got mine £15 cheaper by emailing R&G direct.

Happy riding Asif.

Alan
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 17, 2013, 11:11:46 PM
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on August 18, 2013, 09:35:24 PM
For those of you that have the R&G bars on the GTR, do they interfere with the removal of the fairings?

They do indeed. If you're looking for protection that still allows you to remove the fairing, you may want to consider looking into our Canyon Cages. They've been extremely popular since their introduction and have received raving reviews from numerous sources. With our Canyon Cages, a very small, simple modification will allow you to remove the fairings for maintenance while the guards remain installed. If you have any questions regarding our Concours accessories, don't hesitate to ask here, PM me, or email me directly!
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on October 18, 2013, 06:28:01 PM
we do like your cages and have looked into them before, by the time you get them shipped here and we pay the vat and excise duty they come in at £300 gbp plus, that's 50% more expensive than the rg adventure at £200 to our door.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 21, 2013, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: viper on October 18, 2013, 06:28:01 PM
we do like your cages and have looked into them before, by the time you get them shipped here and we pay the vat and excise duty they come in at £300 gbp plus, that's 50% more expensive than the rg adventure at £200 to our door.

Ooof. I didn't realize there was that big of a difference in price between the two. Since we cover shipping for domestic orders, I'd be willing to work with you guys on the price a little bit to help you save some dough. I'm not sure what it would amount to but if any of you guys are interested in our Canyon Cages, shoot me a PM or an email and mention that you're from the forum and I'd be happy to work with you on price.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Debs on October 21, 2013, 05:35:41 PM
Mine from MCEnterprises came to £500/800$.. That was £400/650$ for the full set of cages and £100/150$ for tax & Import duty..
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 21, 2013, 05:57:15 PM
Quote from: Debs on October 21, 2013, 05:35:41 PM
Mine from MCEnterprises came to £500/800$.. That was £400/650$ for the full set of cages and £100/150$ for tax & Import duty..

Good Lord! They really hit you hard with that import and duty tax, don't they? That was for a full set, though, correct? Both the Canyon Cage and Saddle Bag Guards? I just want to make sure we're comparing apples to apples here as the other individual was speaking about just the Canyon Cage, I believe.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on October 21, 2013, 07:41:11 PM
give us the numbers again,

how much for just the cages to protect the front fairing, how much for shipping and maybe someone else can chirp in with an estimate for customs/excise, ie debs from experience


what will they cost to my door?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Debs on October 21, 2013, 07:52:30 PM
Yes Ryan it was for the Canyon Cage and Saddle Bag Guards on an 2009 GTR/Concours 14

Viper..

In the charge was £80 Import VAT @ 20%, £12 Customs Duty & £8 Parcel Force admin fee.

Most goods arriving in the UK from outside the EU are liable to any or all of the following taxes:

customs duty
excise duty
import VAT

and must be paid whether:

you purchase the goods or receive them as a gift
the goods are new or used (including antiques)
the goods are for your private use or for re-sale
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 21, 2013, 11:52:34 PM
Quote from: viper on October 21, 2013, 07:41:11 PM
how much for just the cages to protect the front fairing, how much for shipping and maybe someone else can chirp in with an estimate for customs/excise, ie debs from experience

what will they cost to my door?

The Canyon Cage is $300 and the Saddle Bag Guards are $175. Shipping for just the Canyon Cage to anywhere in the U.K. would be $89.50 and shipping for both accessories would be $106.50. So, the shipping charge depends on which combination of guards you get. As I said above, though, I'd be willing to work with you guys a bit on these prices if any of you are interested in these products.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on October 22, 2013, 06:19:21 AM
so that's

Canyon cages at $300 + $90 shipping + £60 vat and approx £20 charges, so at 1.60 conversion rate on the $390 that's £323 gbp to my door

V

RG adventure bars at £200 to my door. to compete against the RG you would have to bring the Cages in at about 160 bucks to make the overall cost to us at just over £200 gbp, which im sure you cant do ,?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 22, 2013, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: viper on October 22, 2013, 06:19:21 AM
so that's

Canyon cages at $300 + $90 shipping + £60 vat and approx £20 charges, so at 1.60 conversion rate on the $390 that's £323 gbp to my door

V

RG adventure bars at £200 to my door. to compete against the RG you would have to bring the Cages in at about 160 bucks to make the overall cost to us at just over £200 gbp, which im sure you cant do ,?

Yea, that might be a tad much to discount. I may be able to work it down to around $250 or so MSRP but that would be about it. You have to keep in mind, too, that not all guards are created equal. Aesthetics are extremely personal and everyone has a different opinion but there are a slew of reviews out there that are of the opinion that our Canyon Cages are sturdier, look better, and in most instances out-perform the R&G bars. Also, because our bars are 1" they're much easier to mount auxiliary lighting or highway pegs to. So, at the end of the day, it becomes a matter of getting what you pay for. Don't get me wrong, the R&G bars are a decent product for the price. I suppose it's all about personal preference, though.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Debs on October 22, 2013, 03:51:29 PM
What size tubing is used on the R&G ones? I'm sure the new ones from MCEnterprises are 1" making them stronger
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Kwikasfuki on October 22, 2013, 04:34:54 PM
Ryan, what's the cheapest tracked shipping you can do? I can wait a while so wouldn't need it to be air freight.

Group buy would lower costs as well

What's the small modification required to remove the fairings?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Ant on October 22, 2013, 04:45:48 PM
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on October 22, 2013, 04:34:54 PM
Ryan, 

Group buy would lower costs as well

Big group buy even better  :yes:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Charlie747 on October 22, 2013, 05:09:30 PM
Quote author=Ant link=topic=3297.msg47653#msg47653 date=1382456748]
Big group buy even better  :yes:
[/quote]

:agree:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on October 22, 2013, 05:14:16 PM
group buy is a good idea , however I remember that we failed in trying to group buy some t shirts a while back, what with people not paying/ late paying / changing mind and pulling out it caused a major headache for poor OC, and that was just t shirts .

sounds like ryan has given us his rock bottom price ?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 22, 2013, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: Debs on October 22, 2013, 03:51:29 PM
What size tubing is used on the R&G ones? I'm sure the new ones from MCEnterprises are 1" making them stronger

I can't find any information on the overall diameter or wall thickness of the material they use. However, it definitely appears to be under 1". Keep in mind, though, that wall thickness is generally a better indicator of strength rather than overall diameter.

Quote from: Kwikasfuki on October 22, 2013, 04:34:54 PM
Ryan, what's the cheapest tracked shipping you can do? I can wait a while so wouldn't need it to be air freight.

Group buy would lower costs as well

What's the small modification required to remove the fairings?

Normally we ship international orders via USPS and the cheapest price I'm getting from them (for the Canyon Cage only) is $89.50. We do not charge up for shipping and there is no "handling" fee, we simply charge the customer what the shipping company charges us. The parcel weighs 16 pounds and ships in a 20"x12"x10" box. If you can find a cheaper shipping method, I'd be more than happy to send it that way for you.

Oh, man, if we could put together a Group Buy then I could definitely save you guys a pretty penny on the Canyon Cage accessories. I don't mind organizing one for you guys, if there's enough interest in these accessories. There would need to be at least 10 participants to make it worth it, though.

The small modification that allows you to remove the fairings without removing the Canyon Cage is very simple to do. There are these small tabs on the fairing at the front portion of those air vents that slide behind another portion of the fairing, basically you have to notch a few small gaps in those tabs. The photo below shows where these gaps need to be placed. It's very easy to do with a hack saw or dremel and is hidden once the parts/fairings are completely installed. So, you'll never see this modification when the bike is all put together.

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g43/rnvanquish/c4646345-0d14-4b3f-86d5-a8d035ec3e61_zps9cfc741d.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/rnvanquish/media/c4646345-0d14-4b3f-86d5-a8d035ec3e61_zps9cfc741d.jpg.html)

Quote from: Ant on October 22, 2013, 04:45:48 PM
Big group buy even better  :yes:

Oh absolutely! If we can get at least 10 participants together I can certainly offer you guys a sizable discount. The more people that participate, the better the pricing will be.

Quote from: viper on October 22, 2013, 05:14:16 PM
group buy is a good idea , however I remember that we failed in trying to group buy some t shirts a while back, what with people not paying/ late paying / changing mind and pulling out it caused a major headache for poor OC, and that was just t shirts .

sounds like ryan has given us his rock bottom price ?

I'm not familiar with that Group Buy but its failure could have stemmed from the way it was conducted. We've conducted numerous successful Group Buys for other similar products that we offer. Normally, we offer discounts based on the number of total participants (10% off for 0-10 participants, 20% off for 11-20 participants, etc.) then set a deadline for everyone to order by. People call or email individually, give their shipping and payment information, and then we ship the guards based on order number once the deadline hits. That way it's much tougher for people to back out and we can easily adjust the discount as the total number of participants changes.

It's definitely something I'm willing to set up for you guys as long as there's a decent amount of interest. I have basically given you my rock bottom price for individual sales but if there's enough interest for a Group Buy, you guys could potentially save even more.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on October 22, 2013, 06:34:09 PM
if you are handling the admin of the group buy then we have a chance of making it work, lets see how else shows an interest
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 22, 2013, 07:42:04 PM
Quote from: viper on October 22, 2013, 06:34:09 PM
if you are handling the admin of the group buy then we have a chance of making it work, lets see how else shows an interest

Sounds good to me! I'll keep an eye out for interested parties and mention to them that we may be doing a Group Buy in the very near future.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Lonewolf on October 22, 2013, 09:41:15 PM
I take it you can fit the cages without cutting the fairing as in the above photo?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Ant on October 22, 2013, 09:51:19 PM
Hang fire for the moment guys.....Im working on something with Ryan so I will keep you posted  :yes: 
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 22, 2013, 09:53:48 PM
Quote from: Lonewolf on October 22, 2013, 09:41:15 PM
I take it you can fit the cages without cutting the fairing as in the above photo?

You can indeed fit the Canyon Cages without any modification to the fairings. There is no cutting or drilling required to mount our accessories. The only reason to do that specific modification is so you can remove the fairings without having to remove the Canyon Cage. Makes it a bit easier when doing routine maintenance.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Lonewolf on October 22, 2013, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: Ant on October 22, 2013, 09:51:19 PM
Hang fire for the moment guys.....Im working on something with Ryan so I will keep you posted  :yes:

Buy one get one free..... :whistling:  that would be a good deal. Bagsy have the free one :popcorn:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Lonewolf on October 22, 2013, 09:57:36 PM
Quote from: RyanMCEnterprises on October 22, 2013, 09:53:48 PM
You can indeed fit the Canyon Cages without any modification to the fairings. There is no cutting or drilling required to mount our accessories. The only reason to do that specific modification is so you can remove the Canyon Cage without having to remove the fairings. Makes it a bit easier when doing routine maintenance.

Do you mean so that you can remove the fairing without removing the Canyon Cage or am I getting confused now?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on October 22, 2013, 10:01:20 PM
without the cut in the fairing you would need to remove the cage first, with the cut the fairing comes away without removing the cge
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on October 22, 2013, 10:01:53 PM
Quote from: Lonewolf on October 22, 2013, 09:54:21 PM

Buy one get one free..... :whistling:  that would be a good deal. Bagsy have the free one :popcorn:

buy the left one get the right one free ?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Lonewolf on October 22, 2013, 10:08:14 PM
Quote from: viper on October 22, 2013, 10:01:53 PM
buy the left one get the right one free ?

Not quite what I had in mind!  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 22, 2013, 10:30:49 PM
Quote from: Lonewolf on October 22, 2013, 09:57:36 PM
Do you mean so that you can remove the fairing without removing the Canyon Cage or am I getting confused now?

Oh, yes, I apologize. I messed up the wording. I modified the original post so as not to confuse future readers. But, you have it correct. The modification allows you to remove the fairing while leaving the Canyon Cage installed.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 22, 2013, 10:46:11 PM
Well, good news everyone! We've been in contact with a dealer located in the U.K. to hopefully import our Concours accessories. If we can get the details ironed out, they'll be carrying our products there at very competitive rates to the R&G accessories which will really help you guys save some coin. Once it's finalized, I'll post the dealer name and location here and you guys can begin purchasing our products directly from them to save on freight and duty fees!
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on October 22, 2013, 11:23:34 PM
Quote from: RyanMCEnterprises on October 22, 2013, 10:46:11 PM
Well, good news everyone! We've been in contact with a dealer located in the U.K. to hopefully import our Concours accessories. If we can get the details ironed out, they'll be carrying our products there at very competitive rates to the R&G accessories which will really help you guys save some coin. Once it's finalized, I'll post the dealer name and location here and you guys can begin purchasing our products directly from them to save on freight and duty fees!

Holy 1 inch protection batman     :punk:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Lonewolf on October 22, 2013, 11:31:19 PM
That would be excellent if it works out. I don't suppose you have a photo of the bars front and rear on a GTR so I can have a good look?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Charlie747 on October 23, 2013, 08:45:52 AM
There you go Steve

http://www.mcenterprisesusa.com/home.html

Or check out Miss Deb's Baby for the ultimate Gun and Riot Cosh jobs........................the drop test is worth watching.....................
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Kwikasfuki on October 23, 2013, 12:49:00 PM
I'm in if they are pitched at the right price
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Lonewolf on October 23, 2013, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on October 23, 2013, 12:49:00 PM
I'm in if they are pitched at the right price

With your past safety record they may come in handy.  :whistling:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 23, 2013, 04:21:27 PM
Quote from: Lonewolf on October 22, 2013, 11:31:19 PM
That would be excellent if it works out. I don't suppose you have a photo of the bars front and rear on a GTR so I can have a good look?

We worked out some preliminary pricing and it seems as though it's going to be financially viable for them. As long as the shipping isn't TOO outrageous it looks like this will be a go. It seems as though, based on the pricing, that the British dealer will be able to offer our parts at competitive rates with the R&G bars. Ours may be slightly more expensive but they'll be much closer to the same ballpark than they are now for you guys. Anyway, see below for pictures! I was also sure to include one with the bike on its side with the protection installed so you can see what kind of protection is offered.

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g43/rnvanquish/CONCOURS1400-410001_zps779f3d43.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/rnvanquish/media/CONCOURS1400-410001_zps779f3d43.jpg.html)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g43/rnvanquish/CONCOURS1400-410008.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/rnvanquish/media/CONCOURS1400-410008.jpg.html)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g43/rnvanquish/CONCOURS1400-410004_zps744146e6.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/rnvanquish/media/CONCOURS1400-410004_zps744146e6.jpg.html)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g43/rnvanquish/CONCOURS1400-410006-1_zpsb34b21a2.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/rnvanquish/media/CONCOURS1400-410006-1_zpsb34b21a2.jpg.html)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g43/rnvanquish/IMG_0154_zpsf7143be9.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/rnvanquish/media/IMG_0154_zpsf7143be9.jpg.html)

Quote from: Kwikasfuki on October 23, 2013, 12:49:00 PM
I'm in if they are pitched at the right price

It'll most likely be up to the British dealer to set the final price of the parts but I'll definitely post the information here for you guys once I know what he's planning on charging.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: doebag on October 23, 2013, 04:25:53 PM
Well I have to say they are a very tidy fit.
And the price will be far less than replacement bodywork  :oops:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Debs on October 23, 2013, 05:08:10 PM
Quote from: Charlie747 on October 23, 2013, 08:45:52 AM
Or check out Miss Deb's Baby for the ultimate Gun and Riot Cosh jobs.

:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:

Baby is ready for war  :mfr_lol: And anyone saying they look ugly can go  :censored:   :mfr_lol:

I like to be different  :mfr_lol:

(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y411/bikergirl1400/WP_000056_zps0ada201b.jpg) (http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/bikergirl1400/media/WP_000056_zps0ada201b.jpg.html)

(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y411/bikergirl1400/WP_000043_zps89bf9fc7.jpg) (http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/bikergirl1400/media/WP_000043_zps89bf9fc7.jpg.html)

(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y411/bikergirl1400/WP_000044_zpsa95239e4.jpg) (http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/bikergirl1400/media/WP_000044_zpsa95239e4.jpg.html)

(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y411/bikergirl1400/WP_000040_zps55c51355.jpg) (http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/bikergirl1400/media/WP_000040_zps55c51355.jpg.html)

They were also great for when I dropped baby on a bad slope when in Austria..  :yes:

(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y411/bikergirl1400/IMG_2817_zpsdd8d9fce.jpg) (http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/bikergirl1400/media/IMG_2817_zpsdd8d9fce.jpg.html)
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on October 23, 2013, 06:00:14 PM
debs, your bars look different from the ones from ryan, I thought that was where you got them?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Debs on October 23, 2013, 06:20:23 PM
Quote from: viper on October 23, 2013, 06:00:14 PM
debs, your bars look different from the ones from ryan, I thought that was where you got them?

I did.. Mine are the earlier model ones. I just need to find out how to mount the shotgun..  :mfr_lol:  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 23, 2013, 06:33:17 PM
Quote from: viper on October 23, 2013, 06:00:14 PM
debs, your bars look different from the ones from ryan, I thought that was where you got them?

For the Concours, we have two different styles of guards. One is our lower-profile Canyon Cage which is more designed for civilian use (the one I pictured in my post) and then we have the Law Enforcement Guards which are the larger style pictured on Debs bike. We still sell both versions. The Canyon Cage is much more popular, though.

Quote from: Debs on October 23, 2013, 06:20:23 PM
I did.. Mine are the earlier model ones. I just need to find out how to mount the shotgun..

Well, we do have a flashlight/baton holder but I don't think it'll accommodate a shotgun!  :gunsmilie:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Lonewolf on October 23, 2013, 07:44:13 PM
I'm interested in them particularly now that it appears we may be able to purchase them in the UK. I would want the front and rear protection though which according to your pricing as things currently stand would cost me $475. Taking into account that the potential UK stockist would be selling them at a price comparable with your 'rivals' that would make them very affordable.

However if this project were to take months to implement people will lose interest, myself included, when do you feel you may know whether things will be a go?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 23, 2013, 07:59:47 PM
Quote from: Lonewolf on October 23, 2013, 07:44:13 PM
I'm interested in them particularly now that it appears we may be able to purchase them in the UK. I would want the front and rear protection though which according to your pricing as things currently stand would cost me $475. Taking into account that the potential UK stockist would be selling them at a price comparable with your 'rivals' that would make them very affordable.

However if this project were to take months to implement people will lose interest, myself included, when do you feel you may know whether things will be a go?

That's great to hear! Oh, it definitely won't be that long. I've already given the U.K. dealer freight charges for the discussed amount that he wants to start out with and I'm waiting to hear back. He has a bit of number-crunching to do to estimate the taxes and duty fees he'll have to pay but I'm hoping this will continue to move forward in a timely manner. I'm guessing it won't take him longer than a few days to look into the tax/duty fees and hopefully we'll get an order from him shortly after that if he does find that it's viable for him. I'll certainly keep you guys posted but it sounds like we may have a legit U.K. dealer within a week or two.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on October 23, 2013, 08:23:13 PM
Debs, have you ever took a pillion out with the rear bars fitted ?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Kwikasfuki on October 23, 2013, 08:54:25 PM
The Canyon Cage on the panniers. How much does that protude by? Just thinking if it will impact filtering
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Debs on October 23, 2013, 09:33:09 PM
Quote from: viper on October 23, 2013, 08:23:13 PM
Debs, have you ever took a pillion out with the rear bars fitted ?

Yes I have, but I've had to fit Vario Adjustable Pegs because you can't get your heel on the originals properly due to the bracing bar being in the way
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 23, 2013, 10:01:58 PM
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on October 23, 2013, 08:54:25 PM
The Canyon Cage on the panniers. How much does that protude by? Just thinking if it will impact filtering

Forgive my ignorance but the panniers are the saddle bags, correct? The Saddle Bag Guards look like they protrude more than they actually do in Debs photo due to the convex nature of the saddle bags themselves. From the widest point of the saddle bag the Saddle Bag Guard only sticks out about an inch or so, if that. They're very, very tight. I posted a photo below with a bit better angle showing this. It should have no effect on your ability to filter through traffic, though, as the widest point on the bike is still the mirrors. So if your mirrors can squeeze the gap, the entire bike will certainly fit.

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g43/rnvanquish/CONCOURS1400-410LEFTSIDEFROMFRONT_zps1fce190c.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/rnvanquish/media/CONCOURS1400-410LEFTSIDEFROMFRONT_zps1fce190c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Kwikasfuki on October 23, 2013, 10:07:52 PM
Yes, panniers = saddle bags  :mfr_lol:

Thanks for the pic. Looks like I'll be going for the full set.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Charlie747 on October 23, 2013, 10:11:27 PM
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on October 23, 2013, 10:07:52 PM
Yes, panniers = saddle bags  :mfr_lol:

Thanks for the pic. Looks like I'll be going for the full set.

:agree:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 23, 2013, 10:15:00 PM
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on October 23, 2013, 10:07:52 PM
Yes, panniers = saddle bags  :mfr_lol:

Thanks for the pic. Looks like I'll be going for the full set.

Awesome! Okay, that's what I thought but I wasn't totally sure. Sounds like I need to work on my British lingo! Almost nobody on this side of the pond refers to them as panniers (even though it's easier to say and rolls off the tongue smoother than saddle bags, IMO).
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Debs on October 23, 2013, 10:41:45 PM
Quote from: RyanMCEnterprises on October 23, 2013, 10:15:00 PM
Sounds like I need to work on my British lingo! Almost nobody on this side of the pond refers to them as panniers (even though it's easier to say and rolls off the tongue smoother than saddle bags, IMO).

British lingo has always been better.. Maybe you can convert some over there...  :mfr_lol:

Saddle Bags are for Horses..

Panniers are for Bikes  :yes:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Charlie747 on October 23, 2013, 11:31:02 PM
Quote from: Debs on October 23, 2013, 10:41:45 PM
British lingo has always been better.. Maybe you can convert some over there...  :mfr_lol:

Saddle Bags are for Horses..

Panniers are for Bikes  :yes:

:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Lonewolf on October 24, 2013, 12:00:53 AM
So that's potentially at least three of us who'll be up for the full set, Charlie, Kwikas and me.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on October 24, 2013, 10:29:41 AM
I will be getting a front set in the spring if the price is right, prob a back set but want to see some in the flesh as I fear they may interfere with my pillions boots as per debs comment
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Lonewolf on October 24, 2013, 10:40:48 AM
If a pillion couldn't correctly place their feet on the rear pegs would/could that be a factor which might attract an MOT failure?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Kwikasfuki on October 24, 2013, 11:19:45 AM
Doubt it.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Lonewolf on October 24, 2013, 11:38:07 AM
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on October 24, 2013, 11:19:45 AM
Doubt it.

I'll give my mate at VOSA a call to confirm.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Kwikasfuki on October 24, 2013, 11:41:40 AM
Whilst you're speaking to him can you ask for my license to be cleaned?  :whistling:  :popcorn:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Lonewolf on October 24, 2013, 12:02:30 PM
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on October 24, 2013, 11:41:40 AM
Whilst you're speaking to him can you ask for my license to be cleaned?  :whistling: :popcorn:

I've called VOSA, it seems as long as the foot pegs aren't missing or defective which they are not then there will be no issue if a pillion cant fully place their foot on them as far as an MOT is concerned.

Asif I did ask if they could do anything about removing the points off your licence, they said they're only human and can't work miracles!  :popcorn:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Ant on October 24, 2013, 04:48:50 PM
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on October 23, 2013, 12:49:00 PM
I'm in if they are pitched at the right price

And what would that be in your estimation ?    :popcorn:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Kwikasfuki on October 24, 2013, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: Ant on October 24, 2013, 04:48:50 PM
And what would that be in your estimation ?    :popcorn:

As cheap as chips!
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: gwocni on October 25, 2013, 02:34:21 AM
Quote from: Lonewolf on October 24, 2013, 10:40:48 AM
If a pillion couldn't correctly place their feet on the rear pegs would/could that be a factor which might attract an MOT failure?

Won't contribute to MOT failure but........... If your passenger cannot reach them (a child for example) you WILL fall foul of the local Constabulary.  :tank:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: gwocni on October 25, 2013, 02:57:52 AM
I also want a full set  :yes:
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 28, 2013, 02:36:37 PM
Awesome, guys! I'm glad to see some interest! Once the deal is set up (hopefully sometime this week) I'll be sure to post all of the pertinent dealer information so you guys can contact him directly. He's a very nice guy. Based on what we've been discussing, it's sounding like he's aiming for our guards to be in the £230-£250 range delivered (I'm not quite sure what the pillion guards will come out to quite yet). Is that reasonable?
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on October 28, 2013, 03:22:17 PM
id pay 230 for them delivered over the 200 for the adventure bars

once you get the dealer details maybe start a new thread
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: PCPeteUK on October 28, 2013, 05:17:01 PM
Quote from: Debs on October 23, 2013, 09:33:09 PM
Yes I have, but I've had to fit Vario Adjustable Pegs because you can't get your heel on the originals properly due to the bracing bar being in the way

I bought a set after seeing Deb's bike and Mrs Pete is more than happy with the bracing bar now that I have altered the rear pegs for those off an FJR.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 30, 2013, 09:58:27 PM
Hey guys! I just wanted to give you a bit of an update on what's happening with the dealer in the U.K. Everything is moving forward very smoothly, thus far and we've even gotten the shipping all situated. The dealer has even submitted the order and we're working on getting it all organized as we speak. The dealer is purchasing so much that we're going to ship all the parts on a pallet which drastically reduces the shipping cost per guard which, in turn, reduces the end price you guys will pay! From the shipping company we're using, service to the U.K. from the U.S.A. is only 3-5 days so hopefully the guards will be available for sale there within a week or two although this time frame isn't set in stone. As soon as I know when we're shipping, I'll be sure to post the dealer website here for you guys so you can begin ordering.

I actually have some pricing ready for you guys as the dealer has estimated his cost including all taxes, duty, fees, and shipping. All Canyon Cages (for the 2010-2014 Concours 1400, 2006-2012 FJR1300, and 2013-2014 FJR1300) are £239 and all Saddle Bag Guards (for the same bikes) will be £140. Shipping is set at £12 for next day delivery and £8 for 3-5 day service for all customers within the U.K.

Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on October 30, 2013, 10:03:30 PM
that's fab news and your efforts are much appreciated , I wish you all the best with your overseas expansion  :smiley:

I hope you are making the most of this new dealer outlet and advertsing the shit out of it, you are gonna need more customers than this humble site can provide .

good work,

who is the dealer
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: RyanMCEnterprises on October 30, 2013, 10:12:19 PM
Quote from: viper on October 30, 2013, 10:03:30 PM
that's fab news and your efforts are much appreciated , I wish you all the best with your overseas expansion  :smiley:

I hope you are making the most of this new dealer outlet and advertsing the shit out of it, you are gonna need more customers than this humble site can provide .

good work,

who is the dealer

Thank you very much! We actually don't do much advertising besides SOE. We used to have various print ads and stuff but it never really seemed to help very much. We seemed to get more business by reaching out to folks on forums like this rather than actual advertising. Although I believe the dealer himself is getting the word out a bit on his end. As of right now, we get at least a few international inquiries a week regarding these products so I'll simply be directing those people to this new dealer from now on so as to save on shipping, duty, and taxes so that'll certainly help him move the product.

The dealer actually specifically requested that I do not release his information (although I wanted to!) until the product is a day or two from arriving. I'm not sure why but it's up to him and I'm respecting his request. I figured he'd want to start accumulating orders but I guess he'd rather wait until he can ship the product the same day as the order is placed. Once we ship the product and it's close to arriving at his place, I'll be sure to give you guys all the necessary information.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: Lonewolf on October 30, 2013, 11:59:07 PM
That's very good news.
Title: Re: R&G Aventure Bars for 2010+ models
Post by: viper on November 06, 2013, 10:55:09 PM
 :popcorn: