This has been a successful thread over on UKGSer.. I think it would work well here too.....
Not mine..but found this one on the US site.. and this is the luggage for the rider only :laugh:
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Clearly that rider would be better suited to a SUV!
I'm off on a wee trip later this coming week for a week, base layers, underwear, pair of trousers, pair of trainers, a few t-shirts, that's all I'm taking. What's the point of loading the bike up to that extent, I can only imagine that it adversely affect the handling of the GTR.
While I most definitely agree with you Lonewolf - we have a trip to Weymouth this weekend for the Veterans Parade on Sunday - hotel accommodation for 2 nights btw so no camping and the Mrs had me bring the panniers and topbox (47L) to the bedroom yesterday so she could work out how to fit everything !!!
I have had to book Friday off to make it all go back on the bike - her words not mine :)
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fully loaded on 6 day scotland trip - rider only and not a tent in sight :mfr_lol:
Patrick, that's exactly my point. Less is more.
Indeed... My bike looks exactly the same empty as it does fully loaded...
Quote from: Ros on June 17, 2013, 09:09:13 AM
Indeed... My bike looks exactly the same empty as it does fully loaded...
- hear hear.
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Well ok, depending on the amount of crap that the future Mrs. Ros wants to bring, it may be an inch or two lower on the rear suspension, but that's about it. :shocked:
I have a pic of my GTR1000 back in 97.
(http://gtr1000.com/graphics/photos/Sanji%20Fully%20Laden.jpg)
Also, for many years I was famous in GTR1000 circles for "The Big Pink Bag©®"
(http://gtr1000.com/graphics/photos/Waiting%20for%20the%20Eurotunnel%20Shuttle.jpg)
Up at Loch Earn on last years tour of Scotland. Needless to say the tank bag has been ditched as it was all most impossible to do a U-turn or any type of tight turn with it on :no:.
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well I don't have this problem :no: wife scared :shit: less of bikes so won't go on them :smiley: when I toured France and Italy on my GTR I never used my top box :no: just the panniers and bagster tank bag :smiley: when I toured the same trip on my zzr1400 the year previously I just used a tail pack and my bagster tank bag. I don't do tent's :nono: only b&bs or hotels :smiley:
and my clobber consists of...
one pair jeans
4 good t/shirts or shirts for evening wear :smiley:
8 throw away t/shirts for day riding.. the ones you get 4 in a pack for around £6.00 from matalan :grin:
4 pairs of undies.. after a few days just turn them inside out :grin: if you can't wash them when getting a shower :grin:
4 pair of socks.. wash them though when getting a shower :grin:
pair of trainers
then you have enough room for the bike essentials such as spare gloves, waterproofs, e.t.c then there is the emergency items, plus all the other :shit: we need to carry.. "just in case" we need it! so there's :no: need to load your bike up to the extent you hardly can't see it :no: if my wife did come on the trips with me :sad: I would tell her she as half a top box and one pannier :smiley: the same as me :grin:
This was baby on her first camping trip with me about 2 years ago..
Quote from: Debs on June 23, 2013, 07:39:09 PM
This was baby on her first camping trip with me about 2 years ago..
It has got to be better carrying thestuff on the pillion seat..if you're sans passenger ...saves everything balancing on the rack :yes:
Quote from: Bryn on June 23, 2013, 08:52:13 PM
It has got to be better carrying the stuff on the pillion seat..if you're sans passenger ...saves everything balancing on the rack :yes:
That is actually one of the weak points of the GTR - no decent attachment points for bungy cords. :cry:
I have a big sports bag that I put on the pillion seat when I go on tour and getting the bungies on and off is dodgy to say the least. :sweatdrop:
typical woman Debs far to much stuff i have tent on pillion seat all the camping gear in topbox with wet weather gear (52litres) hotel over night bag in tankbag 1 pannier with extra clothes 1 pannier empty to store helmet and gloves :banana:
Quote from: mecki on June 24, 2013, 11:50:56 AM
That is actually one of the weak points of the GTR - no decent attachment points for bungy cords. :cry:
The blue straps holding the Tent, Frame Bed & Chair on are ratchet straps that will not break and have big hooks on the end.. :yes:
Quote from: stoketim on June 24, 2013, 12:17:53 PM
typical woman Debs far to much stuff
I do like my home comforts... :mfr_lol:
Blimey Debs - that is a portable house!
Quote from: Debs on June 24, 2013, 08:41:14 PM
The blue straps holding the Tent, Frame Bed & Chair on are ratchet straps that will not break and have big hooks on the end.. :yes:
So do the ends of the cords on my Bungy-spider. But there are no good attachment points for the hooks like there were on the 1250 Bandit or BMW R100R that I had before. At the back I can use the carrier frame but at the front there is nowhere really safe to put the hooks.
So where to you put the hooks at the front? :sweatdrop:
Even with all that "comfort" Debs has, no way would you find me in a tent unless it was some fit bird wanting me for carnal fun, and then i would go back to a hotel or B&B to sleep.
Tents, no way.
Alan
Oh, I forgot you have that Canyon scaffolding at the back of course. :mfr_lol:
Quote from: mecki on June 25, 2013, 10:04:47 AM
Oh, I forgot you have that Canyon scaffolding at the back of course. :mfr_lol:
:mfr_lol:
Oi behave :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Quote from: BigAlan on June 25, 2013, 09:09:03 AM
Even with all that "comfort" Debs has, no way would you find me in a tent unless it was some fit bird wanting me for carnal fun, and then i would go back to a hotel or B&B to sleep.
Tents, no way.
Alan
I understand Alan.. When Im old I may feel the same :whistling: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Debs.. that tent looks fine and dandy :yes: but must agree with "BIG ALAN" :yes: I don't do tents :no: but if Cameron diaz or halle berry was in it :whistling: and they were cold and need warming up :smiley: I could ruff it for one night :mfr_lol:
But Dave those ladies would want someone tall, dark & handsome and well, I hate to break it you, but.... :no: Computer Says No.
Debs, its good to see that you like your home comforts and Mr Kipling cakes :banana: :popcorn:
Quote from: Lonewolf on June 25, 2013, 09:45:34 PM
But Dave those ladies would want someone tall, dark & handsome and well, I hate to break it you, but.... :no: Computer Says No.
HUFF!!! :shocked: don't hold anything back will Ya!! :cry: ok I admit I'm of the short leg variety :sad: but in my day I was! well as "meat loaf" sang... two out of three ain't bad :laugh:
have a drink on me...
http://www.alcoholfree.co.uk/index.php?cPath=2_65_12
highly recommended for light weights :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
This is all you need.
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Everything nicely tucked away for a weeks travelling. Simples!
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Everything nicely tucked away for a weeks travelling. Simples!
been there.. done that!! time to move on :yes: if you stay in the same place for to long the cobwebs will start forming, then before you know it, your to old to try something new :smiley: you don't see the
65 ya know 66 :whistling: letting the grass grow under his feet.. do ya! :laugh:
That may be OK for some on a week trip to Scotland.
But when I go on a 3 week holiday to the south of France one pannier is full with tools, spare light bulbs, 1st aid kit, rain gear and 5l emergency fuel (great when you travel from Holland south because you won't safely make it on one tank to Luxemburg and you can choose where to fill up and save quite a bit of cash when travelling on toll-roads in France). Then there are the presents for the kids and grandkids (my daughter-in-law loves Irish cider and you can't get that in France so I always bring a dozen cans), some spare boots just in case and so the second pannier is full as well. That leaves the top case with a maximum load of 2.5 kg. A couple of books, spare leather jacket and my laptop and that's nearly full as well and already overloaded.
So I put a big sportsbag with clothes and whatnot on the pillion and tie it down with a bungy spider.
Makes getting on and off a bit harder but also gives you a nice back rest and reduces drag.
I have to say, some of you are scaring me with your 'needs' :mfr_lol:
In another thread I wrote
Quite a few years ago, I was given a packing tip.
When you come back from a trip, make three piles of the stuff that you took.
1/ Stuff you took and used
2/ Stuff you took and used, but could have left behind
3/ Stuff you took but did not need.
Next trip, take pile 1, a selection from pile 2 [ might include waterproofs for example], and leave pile 3 at home.
It still works for me :wink:
Mecki, one week or three weeks it should make no difference.
Why do you need to take any additional tools to what is in the tool wallet under the seat, any serious issues, call RAC/AA etc, spare light bulbs, fair enough, but they're not going to take up any serious space. First aid kit, again, obligatory in many countries but you don't need anything excessive, just practical, hopefully you'll never need it and if you do, just dial 112 and while your waiting stick a plaster on to show willing and hope for the best. :whistling:
Rain gear....just buy some decent kit in the first place.
Extra fuel, you trying to tell me that you you won't come across a petrol station in over 200 miles that's suitable to fill the bike up. Don't be such a tight wad, if the bike needs fuel, just fill it up.
Presents for kids and grand kids, don't buy any...they'll survive.
Spare boots, what's wrong with the normal pair, as above, just buy decent kit in the first place.
Reading material, buy it when you arrive or go for the electronic option allowing you to ditch the bulky laptop and take an iPad or netbook.
Spare jacket, why? Use the bike jacket, nobody will care less that you're wearing it to go out to shelter from the rain.
Get rid of all the shit you've mentioned above and you won't need to put a sports bag on the pillion seat and you won't then have difficulty getting on and off.
My top box was virtually empty, still had loads of room to put the helmet in. Rusty's bloody panniers were nearly empty, much to my surprise. Any dirty laundry, just dump it and buy new when you get to your destination or get home, that'll allow you additional space for a few presents if you feel you absolutely must.
The Wolfs practical guide to travelling, available from WH Smiths and all other good book retailers for £9.99. :mfr_lol:
Whatever you feel comfortable with.
Obviously coppers are getting paid very well so they don't join the peasants when they eventually revolt, but for us peasants with normal salaries every penny counts.
So if I can stretch the distance between tank stops until I come to the end of a toll-road (i.e. at Reims on the way back) or across the border and can fill up at a supermarket at 10+ cents less a litre and have a decent meal and/or drink without paying through the nose makes a difference to me.
I have decent gear but the trip takes 2 days rain or shine and I have been in sudden downpours and been soaked through within minutes before.
And getting into wet gear the next morning is not an option if I can avoid it.
I wouldn't buy anything with a name starting with i-, so no shite-pad or shite-phone for me, thank you very much.
I have no use for it the rest of the year, so why buy a tablet or smart-phone from another manufacturer just to save space in the top case for a couple of weeks a year?
I have a notebook of course since they stopped making laptops ages ago. But even modern notebooks are sensible to shock so putting it in a proper case is the minimum you can do.
And I take the books because I leave them there so my son can read them as well.
And no presies for the grandkids and no cider for Corinne? :no: way
But I guess if they were dogs you wouldn't say that. :whistling:
Without going too far off topic.....................
Maybe some of this should be in the 'packing list' sticky, but on the subject of tools, what do we actually take with us?
I ditched the factory toolkit, but take quality tools. Quality multi-tool [ leatherman ] , 1/4 inch drive ratchet,extension,sockets up to 13mm and Allen key and screwdriver bits to fit the bike sizes [ no extras ] 6" adjustable. Cable ties, tape etc, latex gloves.
In other words tools I can reasonably expect to be able to use at the side of the road. So no engine work, major bodywork removal. I have thought of taking the right size tools for wheel removal. If you are stranded with a puncture, it may be possible to take the wheel to a repair place, rather than transport the whole bike.
But we are not doing the long way round, or trekking through Mongolia. Most of mainland Europe and beyond has phone coverage, AA/RAC coverage, and mainly, people who would be willing to help.
And unlike our stateside friends, I don't think I have seen anyone on this forum ask the question ' what firearm do you take with you, and where do you keep it' The answers to which truly show that we ARE two nations that are totally different despite speaking a common language.
If I had a tool kit I'd be dangerous. Apparently there is one under the seat for someone else to use, if needed.
When going abroad I take a small first aid kit, spare bulbs, hi-vis bibs, air compressor, torch, breathalyser kits (thx for the reminder Boomer) and the phone number of my breakdown service, etc. That lot takes up half of my top box, leaving plenty of room for her handbag and accessories, plus a pannier each for clothing, etc. Oh and thanks to Roger I now have a tank bag for my man bag and accessories!
For France don't forget to pack your one-shot breathalysers.
The law says you have to carry them but there is no fine for not carrying them.
However, Monsieur le Plod would be well within his rights to take you to the Gendarmerie for a blood test and anal probing if you didn't have one.
I pack a first aid kit, 2 hi-vis jackets, spare bulbs, toolkit good enough to do anything I could do at the roadside (which is a fair bit), gaffer tape, cable ties, and last but not least RAC breakdown cover.
The Wolfs practical guide to travelling, available from WH Smiths and all other good book retailers for £9.99.
You robbin git, i bet mecki can buy a pannier full of goodies for that!!!! :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Quote from: mecki on June 26, 2013, 12:59:32 PM
Whatever you feel comfortable with.
Obviously coppers are getting paid very well so they don't join the peasants when they eventually revolt, but for us peasants with normal salaries every penny counts.
So if I can stretch the distance between tank stops until I come to the end of a toll-road (i.e. at Reims on the way back) or across the border and can fill up at a supermarket at 10+ cents less a litre and have a decent meal and/or drink without paying through the nose makes a difference to me.
I have decent gear but the trip takes 2 days rain or shine and I have been in sudden downpours and been soaked through within minutes before.
And getting into wet gear the next morning is not an option if I can avoid it.
I wouldn't buy anything with a name starting with i-, so no shite-pad or shite-phone for me, thank you very much.
I have no use for it the rest of the year, so why buy a tablet or smart-phone from another manufacturer just to save space in the top case for a couple of weeks a year?
I have a notebook of course since they stopped making laptops ages ago. But even modern notebooks are sensible to shock so putting it in a proper case is the minimum you can do.
And I take the books because I leave them there so my son can read them as well.
And no presies for the grandkids and no cider for Corinne? :no: way
But I guess if they were dogs you wouldn't say that. :whistling:
[/quote.. But I guess if they were dogs you wouldn't say that :sweatdrop: if we were in the school yard at play time, there would be a gang of us shouting... FIGHT.. FIGHT!!! :mfr_lol:
Quote from: doebag on June 26, 2013, 10:43:37 AM
I have to say, some of you are scaring me with your 'needs' :mfr_lol:
In another thread I wrote
Quite a few years ago, I was given a packing tip.
When you come back from a trip, make three piles of the stuff that you took.
1/ Stuff you took and used
2/ Stuff you took and used, but could have left behind
3/ Stuff you took but did not need.
Next trip, take pile 1, a selection from pile 2 [ might include waterproofs for example], and leave pile 3 at home.
It still works for me :wink:
I tried this and its a great method but putting Mrs Pete in pile 2 just earnt me a thick ear....
Quote from: PCPeteUK on June 27, 2013, 10:24:00 AM
I tried this and its a great method but putting Mrs Pete in pile 2 just earnt me a thick ear....
:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
we did a trip around europe last year for two weeks , one box for my clothes , one box for swmbo, topbox for bike stuff, tank bag for valubles, we dont pack anything outside of the boxes and manage just fine, that included her taking hair straightners.
we figure that we wear our biking gear all day, so just for the evening time and eating out we only take one pair of jeans each, 3 tops and 1 fleece, under wear ect.
Viper, what about the cider, where did you store the bottles of cider?
Quote from: Lonewolf on June 28, 2013, 12:16:02 AM
Viper, what about the cider, where did you store the bottles of cider?
LW,
Take the top off the bottle, put neck of bottle to mouth and tip. Swallow contents.
Cider safely stored!!! Easy..
SB
Quote from: Lonewolf on June 28, 2013, 12:16:02 AM
Viper, what about the cider, where did you store the bottles of cider?
im going to put one bottle in each of my spare wellys and all the grandkids presents may have to go ontop of the bookcase thats bolted to my front fender
Why didn't I think of that?
Anyway I've asked MG to design a way of transporting the kitchen sink, (double drainer with waste disposal unit installed) and send the plans straight through to our argumentative friend. :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Lonewolf on June 28, 2013, 10:10:48 AM
Why didn't I think of that?
Anyway I've asked MG to design a way of transporting the kitchen sink, (double drainer with waste disposal unit installed) and send the plans straight through to our argumentative friend. :mfr_lol:
Thank you, but that is not necessary because the kitchen sink is the only thing that stays home. :mfr_lol:
Contrary to the common belief they actually have kitchen sinks in France too. :ohplease:
Quote from: Lonewolf on June 28, 2013, 10:10:48 AM
Why didn't I think of that?
Anyway I've asked MG to design a way of transporting the kitchen sink, (double drainer with waste disposal unit installed) and send the plans straight through to our argumentative friend. :mfr_lol:
two people troll'd in one post, class :yes:
Quote from: viper on June 28, 2013, 08:45:33 PM
two people troll'd in one post, class :yes:
Why thank you kind Sir. :punk:
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I once managed to sqeeeeeze 5 bikes into the back of a high top hire van when I was going to a show in northern Ireland, If I can find the pic I'll post it, the van was FULL :mfr_lol:
I used to take my TZ to meetings like this :yes:
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found the picture...it was a tight squeeze getting them all in there :mfr_lol:
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