Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => 1400GTR Discussion => Topic started by: O.C. on May 27, 2013, 08:17:25 AM

Title: what a bummer
Post by: O.C. on May 27, 2013, 08:17:25 AM
Enjoyed a great ride out, as usual,  with Geoff (100 miles away) and the other lads yesterday, the weather was beautiful and I covered about 180 miles, much of which was on our usual 'B' roads.

Setting off after our lunch stop at lambley (East of Brampton) I saw that the "low tyre Pressure" warning was flashing 

The rear PR3 had a nail into the centre of the tread  :angry:, and pressure was down to 31psi

After a couple of stops at friendly local filling stations I, accompanied by Geoff, managed to nurse the bike home.

The point is that this is yet another PR3 tyre that has suffered a puncture, others on this forum have experienced the same fate. I'm not suggesting that PR3s will pick up punctures more readily that other makes of tyre, but there does seem to be a theme going on here. My tyre has now covered about 2700 miles since I changed from the OEM Bridgestones.

I reckon that a plug will resolve the puncture for the time being at least, but I'll get it checked out later this week.

Here's the offending nail

(http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n326/oldeconey/GTRnail001_zps8b3b61aa.jpg) (http://s336.photobucket.com/user/oldeconey/media/GTRnail001_zps8b3b61aa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: Deon on May 27, 2013, 08:26:54 AM
I know the feeling OC !!
Also had the warning and after getting the bike home had a mushroom plug fitted ( from the inside of the tyre ). Not had a problem since ( touch wood !! ).
I don't believe it has anything to do with the PR3 ( as many would suggest ). One can pick up a puncture on any tyre, but, that is only my opinion ( but I will stick to it !!!  :mfr_lol: )>

Deon
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: viper on May 27, 2013, 09:35:50 AM
i cant see how a particular tyre is more likely to drive over nails than other tyres, maybe is all co-incidental as most gtr owners actually have pr3 as the tyre of choice and we are all showing our puncutures.

my current pr3 has done 4k miles most of it in europe and its good ,

lets hope im right as ive just put a new pr3 on the front  :undecided:
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: shaggs147 on May 27, 2013, 10:22:22 AM
I plugged my pr3 after a puncture and have happily ridden on it since then for several thousand miles with no issues at all.  :clap:
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: Winston Smith on May 27, 2013, 10:23:40 AM
PR3 isn't steel belted unlike most other tyres.

Being Kevlar belted it means it is repairable (authorised and tested by Michelin) unlike most other brands.

Draw your own conclusions as to whether they are more susceptible due to this.

Michelin tested them by puncturing something like 20 times and they retained their pressure each time.  They also did the same on the side walls with the same result, but weren't able to publish that as side wall repairs aren't authorised..
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: Lonewolf on May 27, 2013, 10:58:53 AM
Dare I say it but you probably wouldn't have got a puncture had you been on the motorway so potentially this is Geoff's fault.  :whistling:

I'm sure that was a great help and you now don't feel as bad.
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: BigAlan on May 27, 2013, 11:29:58 AM
That's a bummer ok, which is why I tend to carry round a puncture repair kit and 12v pump just in case, I know it's a bit of a fad but I hate punctures which I usually get in the middle of nowhere.

I have had them in brand new Bridgestones and all sorts so I don't suspect the PR3's to be any worse, in fact so far from using them there excellent.

It's luck, pure and simple.

Alan
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: 2kwacks on May 27, 2013, 11:31:55 AM
Quote from: Lonewolf on May 27, 2013, 10:58:53 AM
Dare I say it but you probably wouldn't have got a puncture had you been on the motorway so potentially this is Geoff's fault.  :whistling:

I'm sure that was a great help and you now don't feel as bad.
:agree: it's either ice, snow, or dam nails when you go out with the geoff :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: Rusty on May 27, 2013, 02:14:49 PM
That is unlucky mate, but my similar puncture was plugged and no problems at all ... quite happy after a few 1000 miles or so ........ :yes:
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: Silverback on May 27, 2013, 02:49:07 PM

Sorry to hear that, it certainly ruins a good day.

Whilst I agree there doesn't seem to be any particular reason why a PR3 should puncture more than any other tyre, and as stated it could well be down to the fact that lots of GTR's are on PR3's, it does seem there are a significant number of reports of punctures in them. It's what convinced me to get Angel GT's instead of PR3's, and so far I'm very happy with them.

Having said that, I am now frantically looking, round for some wood to touch!!!!!!!  :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: viper on May 27, 2013, 03:44:22 PM
maybe the design of the tyre tread or indeed the composite of the compound is better at gripping foreign objects and keeping hold of them, maybe we all drive over nails more than we think and most other tyres are better at displacing foreign objects.
I think id be a good test case, ive had only one puncture , on my zr750 back in 2003. it was in a bridgestone. i put a pr3 on the rear of my gtr for the first time last year and have done 4.5k miles , no punctures , just fitted a front pr3, lets see what happens this year !
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: O.C. on May 27, 2013, 06:12:30 PM
Quote from: viper on May 27, 2013, 03:44:22 PM
maybe the design of the tyre tread or indeed the composite of the compound is better at gripping foreign objects and keeping hold of them, maybe we all drive over nails more than we think and most other tyres are better at displacing foreign objects.
I think id be a good test case, ive had only one puncture , on my zr750 back in 2003. it was in a bridgestone. i put a pr3 on the rear of my gtr for the first time last year and have done 4.5k miles , no punctures , just fitted a front pr3, lets see what happens this year !

Yep, that's basically the thought I had too Viper.

BTW the last bike puncture I had was whilst returning from the N.W 200 on my ZX9, two up with throw overs, back 1994 or thereabouts....saying that has probably jinxed me now   :mfr_lol:

I was however very pleased that I had TPS as it enabled me to keep an eye on the rate at which the tyre was deflating, especially as Geoff and I were giving it the berries on the A6 over Shap and into Kendal, within legal limits of course  :shocked:.....(those Versys 1000s take some keeping up with ya know)  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: Boomer on May 28, 2013, 12:48:31 PM
Never had a puncture in 25,000 miles mounted on PR3s.
Had a puncture in a PR2 in 2009 and my previous puncture to that was in an Avon DitchFinder with inner tube on a GS550E, way back in the early 90s.
I don't know where you people ride but they do seem to have a whole load of them nerg-nails out where you are.
Perhaps it's a small side benefit from such busy roads down here. They get swept clean by the 1000s of cars.

I do miss Ogri.  :sad:
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: 100milesaway on May 28, 2013, 01:30:35 PM
Quote from: 2kwacks on May 27, 2013, 11:31:55 AM
  :agree: it's either ice, snow, or dam nails when you go out with the geoff :mfr_lol:
:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:  Eey, you are a comical little scouser  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: 100milesaway on May 28, 2013, 01:35:31 PM
Oh Rog, ya know when we swopped bikes, so you could have a dash on the big Versys ? Well we were just dropping down into Alston and I saw this nail in the road    :oops: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And the rest as they say is history  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: Richard on May 28, 2013, 01:35:59 PM
Talking to other bikers on the weekend, the general opinion was you will pick up a lot of punctures if you ride off the normal car lines on the road.
The amount of nuts, bolts, bits of coil springs etc etc you see on the road, off the normal line by roundabouts etc is scary, and if you are one of the riders who knips around cars etc you will be traveling over loads of crap.

Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: O.C. on May 28, 2013, 04:12:13 PM
Quote from: 100milesaway on May 28, 2013, 01:35:31 PM
Oh Rog, ya know when we swopped bikes, so you could have a dash on the big Versys ? Well we were just dropping down into Alston and I saw this nail in the road    :oops: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And the rest as they say is history  :mfr_lol:

Ta very much  :mfr_lol:  its plugged now but can't be used for 24 hours so I won't be out tomorrow.

Quote from: Richard on May 28, 2013, 01:35:59 PM
Talking to other bikers on the weekend, the general opinion was you will pick up a lot of punctures if you ride off the normal car lines on the road.
The amount of nuts, bolts, bits of coil springs etc etc you see on the road, off the normal line by roundabouts etc is scary, and if you are one of the riders who knips around cars etc you will be traveling over loads of crap.

That's very likely the case Richard as when we ride out we do tend to get right off the beaten track  :yes:


Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: 100milesaway on May 28, 2013, 05:18:28 PM
Quote from: olde coney on May 28, 2013, 04:12:13 PM
Ta very much  :mfr_lol:  its plugged now but can't be used for 24 hours so I won't be out tomorrow.
I'm giving it a miss tomorrow too, I'm off to Orrell on thursday for the bikes first service, so I will have my playday then  :banana: :banana: :banana: :yes:
Title: Re: what a bummer
Post by: O.C. on May 28, 2013, 07:23:45 PM
That'll do  :yes: