prior to my test ride on a zzr,i had the red warning light flash twice with the F1 error showing on the screen,went to the dealer's to enquire what causes this & i was told to keep an eye on it !!!!!!! as long as it goes out not to worry & if it continues to do so,call in & they will put it on a computer,surely if a WARNING LIGHT appear's there is a problem.i had the red warning light appear a while back with no F1 error showing.i am seriously leaning more toward's the zzr
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Yeah it can happen occasionally, it did on my GTR.
Fill her up with super/advanced fuel every so often.....it cured mine :clap:
Yeah, I used to get this a lot. Not so much now cos the gas station near me sells 100 RON :banana:
Much better
Ros
Hi
Is there a knock sensor on the engine?
May be picking something up if the fuel is detonating, can be a problem on high compression engines, (which this is), with low RON fuel.
Richard
I can't believe that it has anything to do with the fuel you use because I never had this error even after I had to fill the tank with E10 in France.
It is an urban myth that high octane fuel contains more energy or burns 'cleaner' than normal unleaded.
All it does is that under higher compression the fuel will not ignite prematurely also known as engine knocking.
Engine knocking will damage the engine and therefore you need to use high octane fuel in high compression engines.
Since the GTR hasn't got a high compression engine and is certified for unleaded 96 using 98 or higher fuel will not improve performance or fuel efficiency. You just burn extra money. :popcorn:
E10 is different since ethanol contains less energy than the hydrocarbons used in regular petrol and mixing normal petrol with 10% ethanol will lead to a fuel with less energy content.
Therefore you have to burn more E10 than regular 96 to get the same performance. :cry:
Hi Mecki,
I thought E10 was a definite no no with the GTR... I think I read it in the manual?
So far I have been successful in avoiding it, but i usually use 98 or even 100 RON in Italy and France to avoid 'accidentally' using E10. The 98 and 100 are more expensive though...
Ros
Tapps mate ... I have had that 2 or 3 times ... F1 flashes up and goes away just as quickly .... nothing seems to have happened as a result and the last one was a few months ago. It doesn't bother me but I shall mention it at the next service.
Quote from: Ros on May 22, 2013, 05:44:20 PM
I thought E10 was a definite no no with the GTR... I think I read it in the manual?
I heard that some engines get damaged by it because the higher ethanol content supposedly reduces lubrication.
Is there a definite recommendation by Kawasaki about this?
AFAIK regular petrol has already 5% ethanol but that doesn't seem to be a problem.
E10 is nonsense anyway since due to the 10% higher fuel consumption you actually burn more petrol than you would without the 10% ethanol.
So it isn't better for the environment at all as the protagonists claim.
Even if high octane fuel is 10% more expensive you spend about the same over the same distance.
The one time I filled my tank with it I hardly managed to get 220 miles out of it. :death:
Quote from: Ros on May 22, 2013, 05:44:20 PM
Hi Mecki,
I thought E10 was a definite no no with the GTR... I think I read it in the manual?
So far I have been successful in avoiding it, but i usually use 98 or even 100 RON in Italy and France to avoid 'accidentally' using E10. The 98 and 100 are more expensive though...
Ros
correct Ros, there is a definitive explanation within the Owners Manual, The use of E10 is NOT recommended as mentioned twice within separate 'notices' pages 119 & 120 :popcorn: