So there I am riding up to Liverpool for the Grand National today when the red warning light comes on with low pressure warning. Another puncture in the rear in a PR3 that has only done 200 or so miles, and that was a replacement for the PR3 that had a puncture after 100 miles. :cry: :cry: :cry:
So the question has to be am I just unlucky or are these prone to punctures!! It's getting expensive but they are such good tyres.
And none of my bets were on the winners. Hopefully I will pick a winner tomorrow to recover the cost of the new tyre and fitting.
My only puncture in the last 10 years was last summer. Yep you guessed it PR3 Didn't bother me too much, as I think that I am the only person on here to hate PR3s. It is the only tyre I have ever used on a bike that looked tortured and deformed, even though it had lots of tread left on it :shocked: :sad:
In 12 yrs of riding i've only had 2 punctures. Both were way back in the days of my 600 hornet and both times were discovered when I went to get the bike out of the garage.
So am I just lucky?
I had a puncture on a ZX9R, after parking the bike in a "secure" yard in Portrush after the N.W 200 in 1996 (ish) turns out the secure parking doubled as a builders yard, and full of nails !!! good job the ferry had a foot pump available and we sailed into Heysham so the ride home, two up, fully loaded didn't take too long.
If memory serves me correctly the bike had Bridgestones fitted OEM :mfr_lol:
Patrick, Is that the sound of escaping air I hear from under your garage door? ssssssssssssssss :mfr_lol:
One puncture in six years but then I am extremely careful with my tyres and always ensure that I ride at the correct pressure's which will minimise punctures.
Quote from: 100milesaway on April 05, 2013, 08:11:57 PM
Patrick, Is that the sound of escaping air I hear from under your garage door? ssssssssssssssss :mfr_lol:
No.. the hissing coming under the door is actually the extension hose on my Aldi compressor that needs fitting properly and sealed with gas tape!!
No more messing with a 12 volt pump to get those last few psi in the tyres! :mfr_lol:
Better not be a puncture as we're going to Matlock Bath for a cuppa tomorrow and im out with the NEG on Sunday.
Hi Andrew,
hope you get a few winners then mate! If you get stuck for anything then let me know as I'm up in Liverpool.
Cheers,
Mark
Provided it isn't in the side wall get it fixed. The PR3 is Kevlar belted and as such is repairable.
I had a puncture in a PR3 on the Vstrom, luckily a tyre plugger kept me going. It was at the end of its life though and i did get nearly 7000 miles out of it. Ive been told the PR3s are a softer tyre, when off a rim, they dont even hold shape and they arent steel belted, wether that is a factor i dont know, but i do prefer them. After these BT23s i might get a set on the R.
Quote from: Winston Smith on April 05, 2013, 10:05:18 PM
Provided it isn't in the side wall get it fixed. The PR3 is Kevlar belted and as such is repairable.
I thought the advice was to not run on repairs. They are only a stop gap to getting somewhere to have the tyre replaced??
Must say that it is great to have the warning on the bike as the puncture was caused by a one inch spike that deflated the tyre within 400 metres.
Quote from: shaggs147 on April 05, 2013, 10:02:12 PM
Hi Andrew,
hope you get a few winners then mate! If you get stuck for anything then let me know as I'm up in Liverpool.
Cheers,
Mark
Thanks for the offer Mark, can you tell me who is going to win?
I had 2 punctures in 400 yards on my old REX and The very nice AA man came out and plugged them both. Told me that he has to tell me its a temporary repair, but went on to say that in the States the very same kit is considered safe and permanent by the authorities.
Did a couple of thousand miles on it at all speed here and abroad before it was knackered and it picked up a huge staple on the M1 and I finally had to replace it.
:agree:
Good thing about the non steel belted tyres (a la PR3) is that even if there is water ingress it won't rust/rot if there is an intrusion into the material.
Bike tyres are less susceptible to this, even with a repair, as they tend to be replaced more or less annually.
I have had two punctures on PR3s in 27k miles, plugged them both with a DIY eBay kit, and happily rode on them for 8k of those 27k miles.
I do think the PR3s are a little more puncture prone than others, but I also have absolutley no problem using the plug repairs.
My next set of tyres will be PR3s too, my fourth set, they are simply magnificent.
Martin.
I've never had a problem with tyre plugs ... and I'll keep running the bike or car once plugged....
The DIY kits are good.. but if you have the opportunity to have the tyre taken off and plugged from the inside even better ( Imagine a conical plug with the narrow bit pulled through from the inside... no chance whatsoever of it coming through :cool:
Quote from: Lonewolf on April 05, 2013, 08:22:16 PM
One puncture in six years but then I am extremely careful with my tyres and always ensure that I ride at the correct pressure's which will minimise punctures.
steve.. this is better than sleeping pills :popcorn: :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Lonewolf on April 05, 2013, 08:22:16 PM
One puncture in six years but then I am extremely careful with my tyres and always ensure that I ride at the correct pressure's which will minimise punctures.
Quote from: 2kwacks on April 07, 2013, 10:14:21 AM
steve.. this is better than sleeping pills :popcorn: :mfr_lol:
:oops: I've upset the hardest man in Liverpooool :surrender:
Quote from: Lonewolf on April 07, 2013, 02:19:44 PM
:oops: I've upset the hardest man in Liverpooool :surrender:
Steve you've not upset me :no: you help me to nod off :mfr_lol:
Quote from: 2kwacks on April 07, 2013, 03:47:10 PM
Steve you've not upset me :no: you help me to nod off :mfr_lol:
I'm a bit like you droning on about the ZZR.... :whistling:
Quote from: Lonewolf on April 07, 2013, 04:14:00 PM
I'm a bit like you droning on about the ZZR.... :whistling:
Is that what's called touche :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Lonewolf on April 07, 2013, 04:14:00 PM
I'm a bit like you droning on about the ZZR.... :whistling:
MEOW!!!!
Quote from: olde coney on April 07, 2013, 05:31:08 PM
Is that what's called touche :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
:no: ROG... I reckon Steve scraping the barrel there :yes: and he's all "fenced" out :mfr_lol:
Quote from: 2kwacks on April 07, 2013, 07:43:24 PM
:no: ROG... I reckon Steve scraping the barrel there :yes: and he's all "fenced" out :mfr_lol:
Very good Dave, I bet he gets the 'point' of that :mfr_lol:
Quote from: olde coney on April 07, 2013, 09:14:49 PM
Very good Dave, I bet he gets the 'point' of that :mfr_lol:
[/quote well he's from Bradford :grin: and their not as "SHARP" as us Scousers :mfr_lol:
I dont even know what Daves on about....fenced out, what the hell does that mean?
Quote from: Lonewolf on April 07, 2013, 11:22:14 PM
I dont even know what Daves on about....fenced out, what the hell does that mean?
DOH! tell him Rog.... :smiley:
Talk about thread drift....
QuoteI'm a bit like you droning on about the ZZR....
2Kwaks could at least reduce the size of that MONSTROSITY in his signature... Just about every page of this GTR forum has a massive picture of a ZZR...
By the way, saw one exactly like that in my not-so-local Kwak deaker. It too made my eyes bleed...
:popcorn:
Ross, I can delete it for you if that's easier! :whistling:
Does he have a ZZR then? Who would have guessed. :rolleyes:
Soon you'll be telling me that 100Milesaway is 65 years old,... you know!
Perhaps we should change the forum to the ZZR1400R/K1600GT Appreciation Society? :mfr_lol:
:popcorn: :popcorn:
If you are getting lots of punctures, 2 things to avoid are;
1- Do not ride between lanes as the cars push the rubbish there, and avoid all hatched areas for the same reasons.
2- Avoid industrial estates, building sites, and such.
:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
I'm just jealous and they wouldn't let me 'test ride' one for more than a 5Km circuit, something to do with weird Italian insurance. Didn't bother in the end...
Punctures: Fortunately never had one on a bike. Don't know how safe I would feel with a repaired tyre either. Ran over a screw in my car once at low speed and heard an ominous "sssSSSSSHHHHHhhhhhhhh...." and it was totally flat within about 6 seconds. That would be scary on a bike!
The car tyre was repaired with a plug from the outside, however, and continued on until the end of it's natural life.
Ros
Andrew, I hate you :hammer:. You have created a monster with this thread. :taz: Here we are all telling you that punctures only happen to us once every 10 years blah blah, Fast forward to this morning, I'm opening the garage door to get the bike out and give it a wash WHEN :eek: There it is, a shiny screw head gawping up at me from the back tyre :censored: kin ell thinks me, I'll swing for that Andrew :hammer:. Next time that you get a puncture could you please keep it to yourself :lipsrsealed:. If any good came from this, it is the fact that the tyres are 3 parts finished anyway, so a pair of new ones are being fitted tomorrow :smiley: :clap:
Crikey, that IS a little unlucky!
Quote from: Lonewolf on April 07, 2013, 11:22:14 PM
[quote/] from = Lonewolf.. I dont even know what Daves on about... :laugh:
when persons are having a debate or spirited disagreement) and you have nothing verbally to throw back at them. It means they won the argument. The term "touché" comes from the sport of fencing, when one of the fencer lands a hit on his opponent with his foil :smiley:
Rog quoted.. "Is that what's called touché" meaning you won the slagging match!
I quoted.. ROG... I reckon Steve is scraping the barrel there and he's all "fenced" out :grin:
do you get it now... "FENCED OUT" :whistling: the word "touché" is often used in a fencing match, and I quoted.. you were "all fenced out"
it was the best response I could think at the time :yes: "TOUCHE" :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Ros on April 08, 2013, 02:12:38 PM
Talk about thread drift....
2Kwaks could at least reduce the size of that MONSTROSITY in his signature... Just about every page of this GTR forum has a massive picture of a ZZR...
By the way, saw one exactly like that in my not-so-local Kwak deaker. It too made my eyes bleed...
:popcorn:
[quote/] Ros... It too made my eyes bleed... then you must have test rode it :mfr_lol: I'm not removing my pic of my zzr :no: if steve wants to well that's fine :yes: but if he dose then I'm off.... :wink: :mfr_lol:
Quote from: 100milesaway on April 08, 2013, 04:25:19 PM
Andrew, I hate you :hammer:. You have created a monster with this thread. :taz: Here we are all telling you that punctures only happen to us once every 10 years blah blah, Fast forward to this morning, I'm opening the garage door to get the bike out and give it a wash WHEN :eek: There it is, a shiny screw head gawping up at me from the back tyre :censored: kin ell thinks me, I'll swing for that Andrew :hammer:. Next time that you get a puncture could you please keep it to yourself :lipsrsealed:. If any good came from this, it is the fact that the tyres are 3 parts finished anyway, so a pair of new ones are being fitted tomorrow :smiley: :clap:
Arggh, sorry to hear about that!!! PR3s?
Today was a good day for me - no punctures! :banana:
Andrew .. late to this thread but yes you are very unlucky ! 1 puncture many years ago and 1 recently right in the middle of a new PR3 with 600 miles .. which was plugged with no problems whatsoever ..
These PR3 s' are belted so are very safe to repair ..so long as the offending nail / scew is not in a side wall.
Quote from: Andrew-MP on April 08, 2013, 08:17:00 PM
Arggh, sorry to hear about that!!! PR3s?
Today was a good day for me - no punctures! :banana:
No, As I said before I dont rate PR3s so I will never use them again. The puncture came on my winter bike (650 versys). Glad to hear that your day didn't go flat. :mfr_lol: :popcorn:
Quote from: 100milesaway on April 08, 2013, 08:32:45 PM
No, As I said before I dont rate PR3s so I will never use them again
Sorry for not paying attention. :oops: :smiley:
Quote from: Rusty on April 08, 2013, 08:31:25 PM
These PR3 s' are belted so are very safe to repair ..so long as the offending nail / scew is not in a side wall.
So next time I will repair it, hopefully in ten year time!!
awwwwww 2Kwaks... I'm pulling your leg and I'm quite sure LW won't meddle with your signature.
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk200/maple29egg/Avatars%20for%20Forum/smilebiggerzm6.gif)
I was quite surprised to see one the same as yours cos I thought yours was a one off... or something.
Anyway (back to the thread in question) Glad to hear Andrew had no more punctures today. I was also interested to hear that 160KilometresAway doesn't rate the PR3s. In this case, I'm happy that I ordered some BT023s instead. Hope I don't get punctures in them...
Quote from: 100milesaway on April 08, 2013, 08:32:45 PM
No, As I said before I dont rate PR3s so I will never use them again. The puncture came on my winter bike (650 versys). Glad to hear that your day didn't go flat. :mfr_lol: :popcorn:
I was about to ask you which bike had suffered Geoff
Ros, bike forums are full of tyre review threads, and opinions are always split on which is best/worst for your particular model. I tend to try them all, and then form an opinion on MY findings, so far, out of the three that I have tried on the GTR, PR3s come bottom of my list and the oe tyres come top, with Dunlop road smarts somewhere inbetween.It must be remembered that in my case I dont do motorways, but do like to get a shift on on A and B roads, and it does seem that this kind of terrain on the GTR is torture regarding tyre longivity, big heavy bike, lots of road undulations, and the tyres are constantly working hard from one bumpy bend to the next. I tend to end up with a tyre that still has tread left, but the tyre is knackered because it is deformed and totally out of shape. I would like to think that the way that I ride, ie smooth but quick ish is kind to tyres, but the roads I ride are not. :smiley:
Quote from: olde coney on April 09, 2013, 07:46:15 AM
I was about to ask you which bike had suffered Geoff
Yes, on reflection I was probably lucky to get home on Sunday without knowing that the big silver screw had decided to hitch a lift. No harm done though. The tyre lads agreed with me that with the tyre 3 quarters worn it didn't make any sense doing a repair, and I always replace as a pair, so I am having a pair of Continental Road Attacks fitted today :banana: :smiley:
Quote from: 100milesaway link=topic=2849.msg39245#msg39245 date =1365491856
Yes, on reflection I was probably lucky to get home on Sunday without knowing that the big silver screw had decided to hitch a lift. No harm done though. The tyre lads agreed with me that with the tyre 3 quarters worn it didn't make any sense doing a repair, and I always replace as a pair, so I am having a pair of Continental Road Attacks fitted today :banana: :smiley:
Well the addition of a nail didn't seem to slow you or us down on Sunday, twas a bloody good ride out, in the best company.....of course :rolleyes:
Roger, I fully agree :yes: :banana: :listencarefully: It wer bloody gud :smiley:
Quote from: 100milesaway on April 09, 2013, 07:57:01 AM
out of the three that I have tried on the GTR, PR3s come bottom of my list and the oe tyres come top, with Dunlop road smarts somewhere in between
- you like the original B'stone 021s on the GTR ?
.
Quote from: pistole on April 09, 2013, 09:50:57 AM
- you like the original B'stone 021s on the GTR ?
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Yep, everyone else seems to hate them, but for me, and my kind of roads/riding they are better than anything else that I have tried so far. :yes: :popcorn:
- interesting observation there.
- personally , my gtr was absolutely transformed when the stock B'Stones were taken off and replaced with Angel STs. Handling was improved almost like night and day.
- there was only ONE thing which the stock tyre was better at , and it was v.high speed stability (ie , after 230 kmh / 140 mph) because of the much stiffer carcass.
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Yes, but Is everyones bike not transformed, and handling improved, when you have just removed a knackered pair of tyres that are deformed and completely worn out, and replaced them with a brand spanking new set. :popcorn:
- took the stock tyres off before they were worn out.
- the front had developed the trademark scalloping and into the bin went the fr + rear tyres.
- before going to the Angel's , had thought that the way the GTR handled was just as the reviewers said it did , ie , heavy steering and needing to be muscled in the corners.
- after the Angels , the bike was sublime in the corners.
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I may just try the Angels next :yes: What mileage have you done on them? :popcorn:
I am extremely careful with my tyres and always ensure that I ride at the correct pressure's which will minimise punctures.
I mai punctures in 40 anni. :popcorn:
MGvalerio. :banana:
I too am using Pirelli Angels, so far have covered around 7 -800 miles on them. Stock tyres replaced at some 1500 miles, when the TPS sensor "Low Battery" warning came on for the rear. I thought it better to invest whilst the tyre was off the rear rather than wait until spring, when dealerships tend to be fully booked for weeks on end!
The Angels have performed very well so far, the only problem being a flint in the rear that drove deep into the case only 100 miles or so after fitting (noticed by the dealer when I went back for the front to be fitted, that was awaiting delivery earlier).
I chose to replace the rear again rather than take chances, especially as my daughter usually tours with me in the spring/summer.
Quote from: pistole on April 10, 2013, 06:56:56 AM
- took the stock tyres off before they were worn out.
- the front had developed the trademark scalloping and into the bin went the fr + rear tyres.
.
Hi, What does this scalloping look like ? its not a ridge towards the outside of the tyre is it ?
Ant
Quote from: Ant on April 10, 2013, 10:23:19 PM
Hi, What does this scalloping look like ? its not a ridge towards the outside of the tyre is it ?
Ant
Its also known as cupping and kinda 'feathers' the outer edges of the tread pattern leaving a lip on the tread cuts
Under braking the blocks of rubber in the tread deform and move slightly rearward, and the leading edge of each block get a bit more work to do and wears faster. Rub the flat of your hand around a tyre and its quite noticeable
Quote from: Burchy on April 11, 2013, 09:52:23 AM
Rub the flat of your hand around a tyre and its quite noticeable
- yes yes.
- its a "waviness" along the thread block.
- this occurred early into the life of the stock tyres (approx 3K miles).
.
WTF!! :no: :no: :no:
Red warning lights this morning - low pressure at the rear and guess what another puncture. Screw firmly in the middle of the tread. So it is official I AM UNLUCKY!
I DO run with correct pressures checked with digital gauge and I try not to ride in the dross on the road and in the hatched areas. I have not changed my riding style and years and years of trouble free riding is replaced with near weekly tyre changes since changing to PR3s! It is getting a joke now. I can't afford new rear tyres every 100 miles!!
Went to the dealer to get it fixed and they swapped the tyre with the previous previous one which they had repaired for me. Thanks to Winston I will run this one with the repair confident that it should be ok. That saved my £150. Cheers Winston, I owe you one.
Am now seriously reconsidering the PR3s for something less sticky, more stronger, possibly armour coated!!
Andrew, you've not upset your neighbours have you?? lol
Personally, I am convinced that some unscrupulous tyre dealers sometimes just go out for a drive and sprinkle screws all over the roads. They do seem to go in bursts.
You don't drive past a building site do ya Andrew? Many years ago I saw a chippie drop a 1000screw box whilst unloading his van. He just kicked the box into the gutter and finished his unloading. 2 hours later I went out and they were still there. So, I complained to the site foreman and the chippie had to clear the lot up. Pleased he was not.
Rear tyre punctures are a little scary and a PITA.
Front tyre punctures are :asshole: :shit: :no: :cry: :help: :helpsmilie: :eek: scary!!!
If you stay up after a front tyre deflates on you you are a riding god,... or just damned lucky!
Andrew, You are officially the most unlucky biker on earth. :yes:
Bah. What rotton luck. Are you getting punctures from the same place that you ride through? If this is a public road, isn't someone responsible for cleaning it / making sure it's free of hazards?
anyway,
QuoteIts also known as cupping and kinda 'feathers' the outer edges of the tread pattern leaving a lip on the tread cuts
My BT023 is doing this on the back. Hence it's need for replacement. (which reminds, me they haven't calle me yet...) Apart from looking terrible, is this particularly dangerous?
cheers
Ros
No, not dangerous unless it is upsetting the grip/composure of the tyre.
You'll feel if it's dangerous.
Cupping is where the tread block is worn unevenly, feathering is where the worn off rubber fills the tread.
Feathering can be dangerous as you are effectively riding on slicks so wet grip is gone!
Now if a block has torn loose or there is cracking in the sidewall then NEW TYRE!
Right - thanks for that.
I'm replacing mine anyway due to the fact that it is as square as the tires on my car...
Quote from: 100milesaway on April 11, 2013, 02:08:28 PM
Andrew, You are officially the most unlucky biker on earth. :yes:
I reckon you must have shot a Robin Andrew
Quote from: 100milesaway on April 09, 2013, 02:45:48 PM
Yep, everyone else seems to hate them, but for me, and my kind of roads/riding they are better than anything else that I have tried so far. :yes: :popcorn:
I'm with the "old boy" :wink: on this :yes: I found the standard bt021 tyres to give both excellent grip and feel, I did over 3,200 miles around the French/swiz alps and Italy with the standard bt021's and was surprised how good the feel was of the gtr for such a big and heavy bike, it just fell into the twisties and the hairpins bends of the alps with ease and I wasn't hanging around either :smiley: in fact, I replaced the rear with another standard bt021 at 4,000 miles with another bt021 because I can't fault them except maybe for wear, I replaced the front with a standard bt021 at 7,000 miles. I also had the standard bt014 tyres on my 2008 zzr1400 and did the same trip in 2010 I also found those tyres to give excellent feel and grip :yes: the only problem with the bt014 on the zzr1400 "and to be honest.. it's not the tyres fault" :no: was the zzr1400 went through rear tyres like they were going out of fashion. anyway Geoff.. I'm :shocked: that we actually have something in common :yes: I too.. like the standard bridgestones tyres :grin:
Quote from: Ros on April 11, 2013, 04:24:58 PM
Right - thanks for that.
I'm replacing mine anyway due to the fact that it is as square as the tires on my car...
Like this ?
Quote from: Ant on April 11, 2013, 08:48:32 PM
Like this ?
just wait till
65 ya know 66 ya know see's that rear tyre :yes: he hates motorways :mfr_lol:
Hope the mrs doesn't mind ya parking the bike in the lounge :mfr_lol:
QuoteLike this ?
Yeah pretty much.... :whistling:
Quote from: 2kwacks on April 11, 2013, 07:49:42 PM
I'm with the "old boy" :wink: on this :yes: I found the standard bt021 tyres to give both excellent grip and feel, I did over 3,200 miles around the French/swiz alps and Italy with the standard bt021's and was surprised how good the feel was of the gtr for such a big and heavy bike, it just fell into the twisties and the hairpins bends of the alps with ease and I wasn't hanging around either :smiley: in fact, I replaced the rear with another standard bt021 at 4,000 miles with another bt021 because I can't fault them except maybe for wear, I replaced the front with a standard bt021 at 7,000 miles. I also had the standard bt014 tyres on my 2008 zzr1400 and did the same trip in 2010 I also found those tyres to give excellent feel and grip :yes: the only problem with the bt014 on the zzr1400 "and to be honest.. it's not the tyres fault" :no: was the zzr1400 went through rear tyres like they were going out of fashion. anyway Geoff.. I'm :shocked: that we actually have something in common :yes: I too.. like the standard bridgestones tyres :grin:
Yes, amazing that we have actually agreed on something :yes: but of course you have known for a long time that I am always right :smartass:. It's the voice of experience you see!!!! :whistling:. You are right about Ants tyres, they look like they have done lots of motorway/A road miles, my old tyres never look like that, they just look they have been tortured, and mangled out of shape. I do believe that Kawasaki are in a no win situation with the GTR, regarding their dealings with tyre manufacturers, and development of new tyres to suite certain different models. The original tyres fitted to the very first GTRs did get some bad press regarding some of the characteristics that they were showing, so Bridgestone set to work to improve them, and came up with the present one, which they gave a " u " mark after the 021 on the tyre wall. And as I have said many times !! for me !!! they are better than the Dunlop road Smarts, and lots better than the much loved by many on here PR3s. But in saying that I doubt if many people on here ride on the type of roads that I use. :banana:
Quote from: 100milesaway on April 12, 2013, 08:50:12 AM
But in saying that I doubt if many people on here ride on the type of roads that I use. :banana:
ahem ....hello.....anyone there...I'm one of the few that do :mfr_lol:
Hallo !! Me as well OC.
The condition of the roads in SA are not the best but nothing but PR3"s for me thank you.
Deon
Quote from: 100milesaway on April 12, 2013, 08:50:12 AM
Yes, amazing that we have actually agreed on something :yes: but of course you have know for a long time that I am always right :smartass:. It's the voice of experience you see!!!! :whistling:. You are right about Ants tyres, they look like they have done lots of motorway/A road miles, my old tyres never look like that, they just look they have been tortured, and mangled out of shape. I do believe that Kawasaki are in a no win situation with the GTR, regarding their dealings with tyre manufacturers, and development of new tyres to suite certain different models. The original tyres fitted to the very first GTRs did get some bad press regarding some of the characteristics that they were showing, so Bridgestone set to work to improve them, and came up with the present one, which they gave a " u " mark after the 021 on the tyre wall. And as I have said many times !! for me !!! they are better than the Dunlop road Smarts, and lots better than the much loved by many on here PR3s. But in saying that I doubt if many people on here ride on the type of roads that I use. :banana:
Geoff.. dose this mean were besties now :smiley: and in the future you won't mind waiting an extra 30 mins for me, when I say I will be at the bridge at 11.30 am :mfr_lol: remember the bridge is not just around the corner from me :no:
Quote from: olde coney on April 12, 2013, 09:05:59 AM
ahem ....hello.....anyone there...I'm one of the few that do :mfr_lol:
:oops: sorry bowt that Rog, :wacko: :popcorn:
Quote from: 2kwacks on April 12, 2013, 10:22:14 AM
Geoff.. dose this mean were besties now :smiley: and in the future you won't mind waiting an extra 30 mins for me, when I say I will be at the bridge at 11.30 am :mfr_lol: remember the bridge is not just around the corner from me :no:
Of course we are best of friends :flowers: :001_icon16: You're not going to tell us that you actually went up to the bridge last week are ya? I thought that your good lady had told you that you had to clean the windows or do some ironing. Anyway if memory serves we didn't leave the bridge until gone 11-30. Oh and you missed a fantastic day swooping hither and thither :banana: around the world famous ( coz Rog lives there) English lake district. You really must try harder to join us. All for now my best mate, from your (OLD) friend Geoff :kiss:
:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :whistling:
QuoteBut in saying that I doubt if many people on here ride on the type of roads that I use.
So what kind of roads are they that you and your new BFF use then? :whistling:
Quote from: 100milesaway on April 12, 2013, 12:05:10 PM
Of course we are best of friends :flowers: :001_icon16: You're not going to tell us that you actually went up to the bridge last week are ya? I thought that your good lady had told you that you had to clean the windows or do some ironing. Anyway if memory serves we didn't leave the bridge until gone 11-30. Oh and you missed a fantastic day swooping hither and thither :banana: around the world famous ( coz Rog lives there) English lake district. You really must try harder to join us. All for now my best mate, from your (OLD) friend Geoff :kiss:
:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :whistling:
:no: Geoff did not go, I did have a few jobs to do first thing in morning and said I would be there by 12.00 noon, but you said you would be gone by then :sad: so just done a "billy no mates" :sad: thought it may have been a scouse thing :smiley:
Quote from: shaggs147 on April 11, 2013, 10:02:48 PM
Hope the mrs doesn't mind ya parking the bike in the lounge :mfr_lol:
Only the best rug for the garage :yes: