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Title: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: hurricane on March 15, 2013, 10:57:25 AM
Hi all, it's newbie here again. I know this topic has been covered before at earlier years, but....  On my other bike (FJR) I had right-angled valve stems fitted to my rims, and they are just fantastic! But with the GTR, can they be fitted or will it not be possible with the TPS's in place?. The current setup is just too :shit: to be possible on a top-line bike. BMW have the right idea with the way theirs are set into the wheel design. Thoughts please....  A lot of the angled adaptors are a pain to use at the Servo and they leak and release air when you're trying to pump them up.

Chris
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: mecki on March 15, 2013, 01:26:08 PM
Well, in France they obviously use a different system at gas stations and so far I never had a problem attaching the air hose to the valve.
They use the same setup as my foot pump, which is by the way also French (Michelin).
And the air is still free as well.  :yes:
So I think the problem is more the gas stations in the UK that are only interested in selling air to car drivers and ignore the needs of motorbikes.

I bought a right angle adaptor for emergencies that screws on to the valve but I hate it because by the time you unscrew it again half of the air you just put in escapes. I don't want to leave it on permanently because it will most likely unbalance the wheel and even worse if it should come loose during the ride I would loose air quite rapidly before it finally flies off (and who knows what it will hit?).
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: dokterdave on March 15, 2013, 01:55:03 PM
Apparently they do
http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=494 (http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=494)
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: Kwikasfuki on March 15, 2013, 02:36:56 PM
Quote from: mecki on March 15, 2013, 01:26:08 PM


I bought a right angle adaptor for emergencies that screws on to the valve but I hate it because by the time you unscrew it again half of the air you just put in escapes.

The trick it to put in a couple of psi more than required.
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: pistole on March 15, 2013, 06:24:02 PM
Quote from: mecki on March 15, 2013, 01:26:08 PM
I bought a right angle adaptor for emergencies that screws on to the valve but I hate it because by the time you unscrew it again half of the air you just put in escapes. I don't want to leave it on permanently because it will most likely unbalance the wheel and even worse if it should come loose during the ride I would loose air quite rapidly before it finally flies off (and who knows what it will hit?).

- yeah , used to drive me crazy. Now I use a proper gauge to get the correct pressure.

- and you should not leave that fitting there. dangerous.

.
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: SirToU on March 16, 2013, 07:01:58 AM
Hi, firstly, it is unlikely that you will fit a right angled valve to the TPS - I think the valve and the TPS is a factory integrated unit.

another solution would be, when you next replace the tyre, have it balanced with the 90 degree valve adapter in place, but also loctiite the adapter on.

I have to admit, its not something I would do....  I always do typre pressures at home by foot pump, but also carry an emergancy 90 degree valve adapter.

Neil
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: hurricane on March 16, 2013, 10:58:17 AM
Thanks dokterdave, I'll check it out. Mecki, I didnt know people have to pay for air  :smiley:, In Australia we don't need to, we have all the air we need (even at gas stations!  :laugh:).
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: Gonome on March 17, 2013, 05:19:29 PM
I have to admit, its not something I would do....  I always do typre pressures at home by foot pump, but also carry an emergancy 90 degree valve adapter.

Neil

+1. Use a twin cylinder foot pump which requires very little effort. This alows me to adjust pressure when tyres are completely cold, thus able to be very accurate. Again also carry an adapter for emergencies.
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: hurricane on March 18, 2013, 11:33:21 AM
Thanks guys. Never thought about getting a foot pump for home  :embarrassed: That would ensure that I am right before every ride, yes?. As to being on the road, the link provided by DD from murphskits (http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=494) looks like it will do the business. Had a bunch of other stuff to buy so it's on the way. I'll advise how it works after a couple of weeks on the bike.
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: Gonome on March 18, 2013, 02:05:24 PM
This is the type of pump I use at home. I would think you can get something similar from a local supplier.

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_564321_langId_-1_categoryId_255241 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_564321_langId_-1_categoryId_255241)
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: patrick on March 18, 2013, 08:07:28 PM
I use one of these at home with a 12v pump but keep it in the top box in case i need to use a forecourt airline

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/TYRE-VALVE-EXTENSION-TWIN-WHEEL-TRUCK-LORRY-VAN-BUS-CAR-190mm-LONG-DUST-CAP-/00/s/MTQxOFgxNjAw/$T2eC16dHJHwE9n8ii+O+BQO0VS1y9!~~60_12.JPG)

I scrounged mine from the tyre fitter that looks after my fleet tyres at work.

And at the weekend I bought a 240 compressor from Aldi, as the 12 volt one takes ages to get the last couple of psi in!

P
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: O.C. on March 19, 2013, 07:59:48 AM
Quote from: patrick on March 18, 2013, 08:07:28 PM


And at the weekend I bought a 240 compressor from Aldi, as the 12 volt one takes ages to get the last couple of psi in!

P

I saw those and the related accessories that are for sale with the compressor, it looked to be a pretty good piece of equipment, and good value too  :yes: 
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: patrick on March 19, 2013, 07:51:05 PM
I'm happy with the compressor, so as well as the bike and 3 sets of car tyres I can also spray paint the fences!!
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: SirToU on March 19, 2013, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: Gonome on March 18, 2013, 02:05:24 PM
This is the type of pump I use at home. I would think you can get something similar from a local supplier.

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_564321_langId_-1_categoryId_255241 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_564321_langId_-1_categoryId_255241)

I have the same one - the black ring turns to set the pressure - ignore it - its pants.... turn it to 80 psi and leave it, then use a separate gauge, to set the correct pressure.

neil
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: Lonewolf on March 19, 2013, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: patrick on March 18, 2013, 08:07:28 PM
I use one of these at home with a 12v pump but keep it in the top box in case i need to use a forecourt airline

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/TYRE-VALVE-EXTENSION-TWIN-WHEEL-TRUCK-LORRY-VAN-BUS-CAR-190mm-LONG-DUST-CAP-/00/s/MTQxOFgxNjAw/$T2eC16dHJHwE9n8ii+O+BQO0VS1y9!~~60_12.JPG)

I scrounged mine from the tyre fitter that looks after my fleet tyres at work.

And at the weekend I bought a 240 compressor from Aldi, as the 12 volt one takes ages to get the last couple of psi in!

P

Hmm, where do you think I could get one of those from?
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: SirToU on March 19, 2013, 09:32:33 PM
Quote from: Lonewolf on March 19, 2013, 09:24:26 PM

Hmm, where do you think I could get one of those from?

whats that something that 7 1/2 inches long and Bendy?

sorry if your easily offended, I couldn't resist in a little banter....  :-)
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: Debs on March 19, 2013, 11:07:24 PM
Quote from: Lonewolf on March 19, 2013, 09:24:26 PM

Hmm, where do you think I could get one of those from?

They are mostly used on Truck & Buses with double wheels.  :yes:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TYRE-VALVE-EXTENSION-TWIN-WHEEL-TRUCK-LORRY-VAN-BUS-CAR-190mm-LONG-DUST-CAP-/221116096717?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CommercialVehicleParts_SM&hash=item337b8be0cd


Quote from: SirToU on March 19, 2013, 09:32:33 PM
whats that something that 7 1/2 inches long and Bendy?

sorry if your easily offended, I couldn't resist in a little banter....  :-)

You been looking in my bedroom?   :oops:  :whistling:  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: Lonewolf on March 20, 2013, 01:10:05 AM
 :mfr_lol: It takes a lot to offend me.
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: O.C. on March 20, 2013, 06:36:17 AM
Quote from: Debs on March 19, 2013, 11:07:24 PM



You been looking in my bedroom?   :oops:  :whistling:  :mfr_lol:

:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: pistole on March 20, 2013, 08:24:27 AM
oi !!

.
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: Silverback on March 20, 2013, 09:47:28 AM
I didn't realise it was this kind of forum, i'm getting all embarressed!!
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: Rusty on March 20, 2013, 08:11:32 PM
This forum can be anything you like it to be !!!  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: Lonewolf on March 21, 2013, 12:34:54 AM
Quote from: Rusty on March 20, 2013, 08:11:32 PM
This forum can be anything you like it to be !!!  :mfr_lol:

We even allow guys from the Met to join...so we're not picky! :whistling:
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: Silverback on March 21, 2013, 06:25:59 AM
Quote from: Lonewolf on March 21, 2013, 12:34:54 AM

We even allow guys from the Met to join...so we're not picky! :whistling:

Don't pick on us, that's not nice, we're a vulnerable and sensitive lot you know...
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: patrick on March 29, 2013, 06:21:26 PM
Having talked about my flexi extender on here a seal in it has failed so i've had to buy a 90 degree one. It works well too though.
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: Lonewolf on March 29, 2013, 07:07:53 PM
I've just had my flexi valve thing delivered this morning, looks pretty good.
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: patrick on March 29, 2013, 07:29:13 PM
I'll scrounge another flexi one at work next week!
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: keith on March 29, 2013, 10:20:13 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Michelin-R210-Quality-Tyre-Valve-Extensions-21cm-210mm-/290872327885?pt=UK_Cars_Tyres_RL&hash=item43b9577ecd           
 
    flexi's available on ebay  getting one ordered now !!!
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: hurricane on April 04, 2013, 10:33:37 AM
G'day all. Back to my original question on this thread (but I do like the idea of having these bendy things in my glove compartment! - I have finally sourced a place here in Australia that has them - brettstruck.com.au). Online from http://www.myshopping.com.au/ZM--1213491117_VEF500_5_127mm_FLEXI_TYRE_VALVE_EXTENSION

I had the right-angled adaptors fitted to the rim that I sourced from Murphs Kits (MU-191) - It is suitable to fit with the TPS, and at TPS changeout time you can change over the fitting to the new TPS (may just need a new O-ring fitted). No leakage, no impact on the TPS reading at all. No adaptor to muck with when your at the pump. Just a thought. 
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: O.C. on April 04, 2013, 02:46:52 PM
Hurricane, If they are a permanent fixture, what if any effect do they have on wheel balance  ?
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: Boomer on April 04, 2013, 05:06:03 PM
Murphs does 2 different right-angle valves for the 1400
http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=130_136&products_id=417 (http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=130_136&products_id=417)
http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=494 (http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=494)

As for the wheel balance, you balance the wheel with the valves fitted and the tyre inflated to 42psi.
Then you fit the wheel to your bike.
Or are you asking about the wheel balance with the flexy fitted?  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: O.C. on April 05, 2013, 08:03:01 AM
Quote from: Boomer on April 04, 2013, 05:06:03 PM


As for the wheel balance, you balance the wheel with the valves fitted and the tyre inflated to 42psi.
Then you fit the wheel to your bike.
Or are you asking about the wheel balance with the flexy fitted?  :mfr_lol:

:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: now that would be different
Title: Re: Right angled tire valve fittings - Do they work on the GTR with TPS?
Post by: hurricane on April 06, 2013, 10:57:33 PM
OC, no effect on balance at all. While I note the unintended humour in Boomers reply, that does address the potential issues.