Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => 1400GTR Discussion => Topic started by: Teacher on November 17, 2012, 04:50:26 PM

Title: Broken my mudguard
Post by: Teacher on November 17, 2012, 04:50:26 PM
 :sad:
Well I wasn't going to admit it but......
I moved my bike with the disc lock on  :embarrassed: and took a chunk out of the front mud guard :oops: . what a fool I am. Was done moving bike backwards to get it out of garage on thursday as It was such a nice day and was going to go to work on it. Needless to say wasn't in mood. My first 500 miles since getting the bike a few weeks ago has now just cost 170 quid for new guard
Anyway new extremely expensive mud guard is on order but how do i get the brake line retaining guides out of the old one. Do they just pull out ? They are made of plastic and seem fairly stuck. If it comes down to it Ill break the old guard around them- it's no good now anyway
2kwacks if you read this i see you've fitted one
I am gutted at my stupidity and rather angry at myself. Could be worse I guess.
Title: Re: Broken my mudguard
Post by: Debs on November 17, 2012, 04:54:07 PM
Sorry to hear your misfortune..  :sad:

I use one of these. Think you should invest in one to

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motrax-Forgetmenot-Disc-Lock-Reminder-FGMN1-/270618373640?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3f021cae08&_uhb=1
Title: Re: Broken my mudguard
Post by: Kwikasfuki on November 17, 2012, 04:56:41 PM
To remove the plastic clips, you need to get behind them, squeeze the two ends together and push out
Title: Re: Broken my mudguard
Post by: Teacher on November 17, 2012, 05:00:25 PM
Thanks Debs. I think you are right  :grin:
Title: Re: Broken my mudguard
Post by: SirToU on November 17, 2012, 05:13:56 PM
You can get them out without actually taking the wheel out, and even if you get the wheel out, they are still very difficult, as they sit in a pocket on the inside of the mudguard.

Basically, squeeze the ring hard, so you can offset (vertically) the pin that sits into the mudguard, and pull it out.  They will come out, but they are a pain.... Even now I get very frustrated that they are so bloody difficult to remove.  (I service the calipers regularly, so need to remove to allow sufficient movement of the caliper).

Hope that helps.

Neil
Title: Re: Broken my mudguard
Post by: mecki on November 17, 2012, 05:30:35 PM
I had the same misfortune despite having an alarmed disc lock about 6 months ago. Usually the alarm goes off if you just look hard at the blasted thing but when you need it nothing.  :oops:
I glued the broken off bits back on with super glue I had left over from the Scottoiler I bought for the previous bike.
And when I went to Switzerland last summer I put the vignette over the broken bit to cover it up.
So far it hasn't come off and you don't even notice that it was broken.  :clap:

BTW how much is a new one?
Title: Re: Broken my mudguard
Post by: Lonewolf on November 17, 2012, 06:39:58 PM
Quote from: mecki on November 17, 2012, 05:30:35 PM
I had the same misfortune despite having an alarmed disc lock about 6 months ago. Usually the alarm goes off if you just look hard at the blasted thing but when you need it nothing.  :oops:
I glued the broken off bits back on with super glue I had left over from the Scottoiler I bought for the previous bike.
And when I went to Switzerland last summer I put the vignette over the broken bit to cover it up.
So far it hasn't come off and you don't even notice that it was broken.  :clap:

BTW how much is a new one?
£160-£180 ish. I'd be having a look on ebay.
Something like this, not perfect but cheapish and it can always be resprayed. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-GTR-1400-ZG-1400-2009-PARTS-FRONT-MUDGUARD-FENDER-/270963743168?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3f16b299c0 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-GTR-1400-ZG-1400-2009-PARTS-FRONT-MUDGUARD-FENDER-/270963743168?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3f16b299c0)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-1400GTR-Metallic-Green-Front-Mudguard-/200846770770?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2ec3668252 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-1400GTR-Metallic-Green-Front-Mudguard-/200846770770?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2ec3668252)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-GTR-1400-FRONT-MUDGUARD-FEENDER-2009-/390488673641?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item5aeaf04d69 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-GTR-1400-FRONT-MUDGUARD-FEENDER-2009-/390488673641?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item5aeaf04d69)
Title: Re: Broken my mudguard
Post by: tapps on November 17, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
i'm not a lover of disc lock's,a pal of mine age's ago attempted to pull away with one on,he caused alot of damage to the front brake caliper assembly,i use an oxford heavy duty chain & padlock.
Title: Re: Broken my mudguard
Post by: BigAlan on November 17, 2012, 06:51:41 PM
I confess I am a cheat as when I took my front mudguard off I purchased two clips before for a couple of quid and simply cut them off.

Alan
Title: Re: Broken my mudguard
Post by: Lonewolf on November 17, 2012, 06:58:05 PM
Quote from: BigAlan on November 17, 2012, 06:51:41 PM
I confess I am a cheat as when I took my front mudguard off I purchased two clips before for a couple of quid and simply cut them off.

Alan

Shame on you!  :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Broken my mudguard
Post by: Teacher on November 17, 2012, 11:29:52 PM
Thanks for the replies

price of a new one is 176 pounds  :sweatdrop:

I tried super glue but it doesn't look good as the plastic i knocked out ended up in two pieces. I glued those together before gluing the piece back in

never mind, I've ordered and paid for it now. The bike is as new condition and i want to keep it that way, although i'm not doing a good job up to now

BigAlan - where did you get your clips and do they come off from around the brake pipes as mine look like a solid loop so did you put another type on ?
Title: Re: Broken my mudguard
Post by: BigAlan on November 18, 2012, 03:28:20 PM
Quote from: Teacher on November 17, 2012, 11:29:52 PM

BigAlan - where did you get your clips and do they come off from around the brake pipes as mine look like a solid loop so did you put another type on ?

They are not a complete solid loop although they do indeed look like it, there is actually two sides and they pop through the hole and to get them out is a pain as you have to squeeze them together.
I was lucky as in the dealers they had a couple and I gave a quid each for them.

If ever I need more I shall have a look down the local DIY store and see if there is anything suitable if the dealer has no more cheap ones.

Alan
Title: Re: Broken my mudguard
Post by: Boomer on November 19, 2012, 03:47:57 PM
A friend forgot his and rode off.  :oops:
Unfortunately the lock was just in front of the forks.
Unfortunately he rode off forwards and gave it some welly to catch up to me.
The lock trashed his front mudguard, the lock, the disk, the caliper and cracked the fork lower.
He ended up doing a faceplant but was mostly unhurt.
On a faired bike it would have been a LOT more expensive what with all the broken plastic.

I never use disk locks. Apart from everything else almost all of them can be smashed in seconds.
I use a cable/shell lock (Oxford Revolver) that goes through the rear wheel and over the saddle.
It lives in the topbox when not in use. If you can ride off and forget that then you deserve to crash.  :rolleyes:
When in the garage I use an anchor chain and a pin-shackle connected to a ground anchor, as well as the Revolver.
Title: Re: Broken my mudguard
Post by: alibx11 on November 19, 2012, 09:47:07 PM
Sorry to say this Teacher but ... :mfr_lol: I've done it myself before... although not on this bike thank goodness....

Takes a few seconds to realise what's happened too when the front wheel comes to a sudden stop.
Laughed at myself ( afterwards of course ) when I last did it.. nearly gave myself a hernia trying to stop the Varadero falling over in my garage with the lock on...

Not a great start for the new bike, glad to hear it wasn't worse, hope your liking it otherwise though.. good luck with the repairs, and get a disk lock reminder or just put a velcro band or something bright round the throttle grip. .

Al.