Hi (please bear with my English)
I am new to this place and would like to thank you all for your support
I purchased a stored brand new GTR 2 weeks ago
I love the motorcycle.
in the first wash (i was lucky not using too much water) i realized that the water did not leak from the fuel container :oops: and i had to absorb it myself with a cloth.
Then went and put some fuel to act as if the fuel is over filling the tank, still no drainage for the excess fuel, what do you think? please i need your advice
Thank you
:surrender:
Hi and welcome to the forum :clap:
Unfortunately, I am not sure what you mean. What is your first language?
Ros
Quote from: Rosbif on October 01, 2012, 11:06:50 PM
Hi and welcome to the forum :clap:
Unfortunately, I am not sure what you mean. What is your first language?
Ros
for example
normaly if you over fill the tank with fuel, the excess fuel should drain under the motorcycle.
well this will not happen in my bike and the extra fuel will spill outside the tank. that means the drainage is not open or clogged
my first language is Arabic
At todays fuel prices who in his right mind would over-fill his tank?
And how the heck did you get water in the tank while washing your bike in the first place? :ohplease:
- when you fill your tank
- the fuel does not drain anywhere
- the fuel goes into the tank
- when the tank is full , the fuel pump of the fuel station stops automatically.
- if you force more fuel into the tank , eventually there will be too much fuel and the fuel will come out of the top of the tank = bad.
- fuel mixed with water is bad
.
[There is or should be a drain hole which is easy to see when you open the fuel tank cap, it is situated at about '10 o'clock as you look down at the open fuel tank filler
How did you manage to get water into your fuel whilst you were washing your bike /b]
هناك أو ينبغي أن يكون ثقب استنزاف التي من السهل أن نرى عند فتح غطاء خزان الوقود، وهو يقع في حوالي الساعة '10 وأنت تنظر إلى أسفل في حشو خزان الوقود المفتوح
كيف كنت تدير للحصول على المياه في الوقود الخاص بك بينما كنت غسل الدراجة الخاصة بك
Quote from: olde coney on October 02, 2012, 11:02:15 AM
[There is or should be a drain hole which is easy to see when you open the fuel tank cap, it is situated at about '10 o'clock as you look down at the open fuel tank filler
How did you manage to get water into your fuel whilst you were washing your bike /b]
هناك أو ينبغي أن يكون ثقب استنزاف التي من السهل أن نرى عند فتح غطاء خزان الوقود، وهو يقع في حوالي الساعة '10 وأنت تنظر إلى أسفل في حشو خزان الوقود المفتوح
كيف كنت تدير للحصول على المياه في الوقود الخاص بك بينما كنت غسل الدراجة الخاصة بك
thanks for responding
let me say that the other responders are missing the fact that each fuel tank should have a drainage for excess fuel. and if you don't know that go back to the manual of your motorcycle.
if you have a motorcycle try this
spell some water on your tank cap while it is cloosed and watch carefully what happens next, you will see that there is a hose under your bike geting red of that whater to prevent it from over filling and going in your gas tank. all motorcycle has this mechanism.
mine is clogged and my question is how to get it open thats all.
for the person saying that the fuel goes only in the tank:
it happens sometimes that the fuel pumb will fail to stop and in that case the drain outside the tank opening will leak the excess fuel out and under the bike
all tanks have air and fuel drainage other wise you will have a disaster
this a safety issue
now i can stop the washing in the area around the gas tank cap and i can prevent over filling of gas put i can't prevent rain from going in the area surounding the fuel opining
again and for disbelievers try poring water on your tank cap while it is closed
- since when did camels have fuel caps ?
.
You live and learn. Pistole, your Arabic is almost fluent :mfr_lol: Do you think water/rain might run down the side of your tank? :wacko: (on the outside!)
Where's Jeremy beadle?
Thank you for your help
this is from the service manual of the GTR1400
247. 3-140 FUEL SYSTEM (DFI)Fuel TankFuel Tank and Cap Inspection• Visually inspect the gasket [A] on the tank cap for any damage. Replace the gasket if it is damaged.• Check to see if the water drain pipe and fuel breather pipe [C] (California Model) in the tank are not clogged. Check the tank cap breather also. If they are clogged, remove the tank and drain it, and then blow the breather free with compressed air.
Quote from: pistole on October 02, 2012, 03:52:33 PM
- since when did camels have fuel caps ?
.
thanks for your polite answer ... i did not expect that this forum appreciate a Racist
Quote from: kfshman on October 02, 2012, 03:33:24 PM
thanks for responding
let me say that the other responders are missing the fact that each fuel tank should have a drainage for excess fuel. and if you don't know that go back to the manual of your motorcycle.
if you have a motorcycle try this
spell some water on your tank cap while it is cloosed and watch carefully what happens next, you will see that there is a hose under your bike geting red of that whater to prevent it from over filling and going in your gas tank. all motorcycle has this mechanism.
mine is clogged and my question is how to get it open thats all.
for the person saying that the fuel goes only in the tank:
it happens sometimes that the fuel pumb will fail to stop and in that case the drain outside the tank opening will leak the excess fuel out and under the bike
all tanks have air and fuel drainage other wise you will have a disaster
this a safety issue
now i can stop the washing in the area around the gas tank cap and i can prevent over filling of gas put i can't prevent rain from going in the area surounding the fuel opining
again and for disbelievers try poring water on your tank cap while it is closed
I'm wondering how badly blocked the drain aperture is on your bikes fuel tank.
If you can see the drain hole perhaps it has become blocked with something and therefore wont allow excess fuel or water to safely drain away, perhaps its covered with paint , its difficult to advise without photo evidence
You should try and locate the drain hole and make sure its free from any obstructions
Good luck
Oh, and don't confuse British humour with racist remarks ~ which incidentally, do not exist on this forum :nono:
I had a similar problem on my BMW K1200. If I parked it outside whilst touring and it rained, when I next opened the fuel cap there would be water all around the tank opening and this would then escape into the tank! Worried me endlessly for a while, I took the tank off to change the fuel filter and checked the drain tubes by blowing into them, all seemed OK.
I asked both a main dealer and independent specialist to look at it and they both said "well, the drain tubes are clear so it can't really be a problem", so I simply gave up worrying over it.
In five years of use, it never did cause any running problems!
P.S. In the case of my BMW, if overfilled with fuel it would drain under the bike.
Quote from: flatfour on October 02, 2012, 05:05:44 PM
P.S. In the case of my BMW, if overfilled with fuel it would drain under the bike.
just like a good 'ole Brit Iron eh :yes:
It would be easy to mistake some of the so called 'British humour' on this forum for acute xenophobia
Quote from: pistole on October 02, 2012, 03:52:33 PM
- since when did camels have fuel caps ?
.
That was uncalled for.
maybe poke a wire or very thin rod down the drain tube from the tank top, maybe the pipe is just trapped from factory
or locate the drain tube at the bottom and do this in reverse or use compressed air to blast through
from your posts and knowledgeable retort and ability to quote references from the manual you sound a very capable and resourceful biker, im sure you will figure it out without our help
Quote from: flatfour on October 02, 2012, 05:05:44 PM
I had a similar problem on my BMW K1200. If I parked it outside whilst touring and it rained, when I next opened the fuel cap there would be water all around the tank opening and this would then escape into the tank! Worried me endlessly for a while, I took the tank off to change the fuel filter and checked the drain tubes by blowing into them, all seemed OK.
I asked both a main dealer and independent specialist to look at it and they both said "well, the drain tubes are clear so it can't really be a problem", so I simply gave up worrying over it.
In five years of use, it never did cause any running problems!
P.S. In the case of my BMW, if overfilled with fuel it would drain under the bike.
thank you for the information
Quote from: olde coney on October 02, 2012, 04:54:52 PM
I'm wondering how badly blocked the drain aperture is on your bikes fuel tank.
If you can see the drain hole perhaps it has become blocked with something and therefore wont allow excess fuel or water to safely drain away, perhaps its covered with paint , its difficult to advise without photo evidence
You should try and locate the drain hole and make sure its free from any obstructions
Good luck
Oh, and don't confuse British humour with racist remarks ~ which incidentally, do not exist on this forum :nono:
Thank you for the explanation
i made it clear to everyone at the begining that am not an expert in british humour.
Quote from: viper on October 02, 2012, 06:20:01 PM
maybe poke a wire or very thin rod down the drain tube from the tank top, maybe the pipe is just trapped from factory
or locate the drain tube at the bottom and do this in reverse or use compressed air to blast through
from your posts and knowledgeable retort and ability to quote references from the manual you sound a very capable and resourceful biker, im sure you will figure it out without our help
thank you and i will try to solve this problem in a simple way and if not solved i will take her to the dealer
its very difficult to be racist when you dont know the persons colour , race or creed, your english is better than a lot on here, all we know about you is that you speak arabic, well so does Shakira
:mfr_lol:
if i see the word does spelt dose once more i, i , i might complain a bit
Quote from: viper on October 02, 2012, 10:02:43 PM
its very difficult to be racist when you dont know the persons colour , race or creed, your english is better than a lot on here, all we know about you is that you speak arabic, well so does Shakira
I don't want to bring this issue again but i have to reply to your kind quote.
but sometimes what you might think of as humor might be an insult in different cultures
it is clearly that the comment was about the Arabic race.I would not use my local culture humor with a person from a different culture who might misunderstand it or take it as an insult. :surrender:
I think the problem is as simple as the drain tube being blocked, and my guess is that when the bike was built the tube has been trapped, so either you or the dealer need to trace the tube to find out where it is being pinched. good luck. :smiley:
Ok, kfshman did report this thread yesterday to me and I did respond to him, consequently I have removed my post and edited one other. Although they were certainly not intended to insult anyone, nor were they targeted at anyone specific, least of all kfshman, perhaps in hindsight they could have been construed as inappropriate.
Lets embrace our mutual love for the GTR and respect for each other and enjoy the forum. :clap:
:biker3:
Quote from: Lonewolf on October 03, 2012, 10:01:45 AM
Ok, kfshman did report this thread yesterday to me and I did respond to him, consequently I have removed my post and edited one other. Although they were certainly not intended to insult anyone, nor were they targeted at anyone specific, least of all kfshman, perhaps in hindsight they could have been construed as inappropriate.
Lets embrace our mutual love for the GTR and respect for each other and enjoy the forum. :clap:
:biker3:
agree and thank you for your response
Quote from: 100milesaway on October 03, 2012, 07:15:54 AM
I think the problem is as simple as the drain tube being blocked, and my guess is that when the bike was built the tube has been trapped, so either you or the dealer need to trace the tube to find out where it is being pinched. good luck. :smiley:
I removed the tank today at home and the side fairings
traced the tubes and found the problem to be at the end of the tube
the factory pinched the tube with a clip and turned it back toward the engine :wacko:. to protect it from being clogged before use. the bent area in the tube is almost damaged so i inserted a hard electrical plastic tube in the damaged area inside the tube
the dealer failed to remove it during the PDI.
Hi Kfshman, sounds like you have figured it out. Bloody dealers eh? :rolleyes:
Where are you? Most of us are in the UK but we have members in South Africa, USA, Canada, Norway, France, Germany, Italy etc.
Once you get to know the people on here you will realise that it was not intended to be racist, merely humour.
We all regularly make fun of each other and sometimes we forget that someone new doesn't understand.
I have a great reluctance to change my standard headlamp bulbs for those lovely brighter ones
Can I ask the forum if I'm suffering from 'xenophobia' ? :undecided:
Quote from: tommytool on October 03, 2012, 12:43:04 PM
I have a great reluctance to change my standard headlamp bulbs for those lovely brighter ones
Can I ask the forum if I'm suffering from 'xenophobia' ? :undecided:
No - you suffer from Xenonphobia! :mfr_lol:
dont make light of a serious subject !!!
Coman
Quote from: Boomer on October 03, 2012, 11:54:55 AM
Hi Kfshman, sounds like you have figured it out. Bloody dealers eh? :rolleyes:
Where are you? Most of us are in the UK but we have members in South Africa, USA, Canada, Norway, France, Germany, Italy etc.
Once you get to know the people on here you will realise that it was not intended to be racist, merely humour.
We all regularly make fun of each other and sometimes we forget that someone new doesn't understand.
i understand and apologies to all members for miss understanding .. There are four gtr1400 in the entire country two 2008 - one total damaged from an accident .. One 2010 (mine) .. And 2012 .. Dealer does not have the capabilities and it is shameful .. I fix my own depending on past experience (25years biker) .. And the rest depends on my simple knowledge and perfect tools. Am from UAE DUBAI and working and living in Saudi Arabia Riyadh. GTR is kind of difficult technology when compared to other Japanese bikes. To tell you the truth, even if I was the only one with that beautiful motorcycle I will still own it. She deserve all the sacrifice and headache. Viva GTR
In fact we feel like orphans in this region but our presence is very clear to all on the roads
Harley and Suzuki are dominant here
How often do you change the air filter? It must get clogged with the sand frequently?
We clean it regularly but 15000 km we change it.. We change the oil quick also due to extreme heat
fuel is a God gift
one liter of a 95 octane is 0.09 GBP
Quotefuel is a God gift
one liter of a 95 octane is 0.09 GBP
9p a litre?!!!!! :shocked:
Now you have succeeded in making the entire forum very envious!! :clap:
My father worked for a year in Riyadh, but it was quite a while ago. He also mentioned that filling the tank in the car cost just a couple of quid!
Enjoy your GTR :) any pictures of her ?
Ros
Quote from: Rosbif on October 03, 2012, 10:16:36 PM
9p a litre?!!!!! :shocked:
Now you have succeeded in making the entire forum very envious!! :clap:
Envious? I'd say angry since it shows how we get ripped off. :taz:
kfshman...some pictures would be good :yes:
I will post them soon ... Promise
Yep kfshman we like pictures on here. This is a link to some of my bike. Black which everyone here will tell you is the fastest colour! :yes: :yes: :yes:
http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,2158.0.html (http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,2158.0.html)
Quote from: Gonome on October 04, 2012, 08:42:02 PM
Yep kfshman we like pictures on here. This is a link to some of my bike. Black which everyone here will tell you is the fastest colour! :yes: :yes: :yes:
http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,2158.0.html (http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,2158.0.html)
very nice bike .. i like the top mirrors on your originals. That is a very brilliant idea.
the top box is very nice also.
I placed an order for the bar extenders, Vance & Hince slip on and GSG sliders.
am still at the begining with accessories and will post a vedeo when finished.
Look forward to it. :banana:
My 2010 GTR
(http://im14.gulfup.com/GMpv1.jpg)
Our cat Zorro and you can see he has the same GTR eyes :mfr_lol:
(http://im14.gulfup.com/70Ap2.jpg)
:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
THAT's why I like the looks of the GTR. I am also a Cat person.
These are my 2 wild lunatics. Bozo & Monty.
(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/18845_324776694814_1872853_n.jpg)
kfshman -- dont listen to them, black is dead, blue is the new kid on the block, by far the best colour, by far the fastest, by far the cleanest, by far the most desirable, all other colours fall into insignificance. :yes: :yes:
Nice bike kfshman, you have a decent looking garage as well. You're cats not bad looking either, more of a dog man myself but I do like cats.
Boomer, why do you keep your cats in the loft?
Good looking bike kfshman. You might want to think about a headlight lens protector given the price they are.
Quote from: Gonome on October 07, 2012, 09:21:25 AM
Good looking bike kfshman. You might want to think about a headlight lens protector given the price they are.
yes :agree: I was thinking of that and will get one
Quote from: Lonewolf on October 05, 2012, 10:56:14 PM
Boomer, why do you keep your cats in the loft?
Keeping the little b***ards out of anywhere is utterly impossible. :rolleyes:
I went up into the loft to put away the Xmas tree and they followed.
They just climbed the ladder.
After about 2 hours up there exploring I finally got bored and enticed them down with treats.
Getting that pic was sheer luck.
They are a LOT slower on the way down. :mfr_lol: