Hey guys,
I have a 2008 GTR (number 7800 built) and I discovered today a bad new... My front brake Cylinder is leaking...
The leak of oil has made some damage on the painting of the front fork and and on one of the plastic fairing..(see the red lign on the attached photo)
Couple of questions here :
1) Is this ''usual'' ???
2) How can I repair that? Do I have to change the entire brake lever assy?
3) Can I claim something on Kawasaki as I can consider this a a bad design
4) How can I touch up paint the fork?
THanks for your help
PS : The bike is going very soon to have the retrofit made on the back brake lever
PS2 : I am in France
Cheerss
Hi, if the leak is originating from the front brake cylinder reservoir it may simply be a case of replacing the reservoir. I would see if there is a neutraliser that you could apply to the metal which has been affected to halt any further contamination.
Hello
THe leakage (as it can be seen on the first picture) is coming between the cylinder (white plastic) and the body of the brake lever (black part)
I am not sure It can be removed...
Don't know if there is a seal between those 2...
The manuals gives not relevant information..
There will be some sort of O-ring seal between the reservoir and the master cylinder, the fluid is not under pressure at this point, but you may still need to bleed any air out of the system when the repair is done.
I think so but I have checked the shop manual and find nothing about that..
DO you know where I can find the drawings and part number of the bike? (this is easilly available on Suzuki bikes)
Thanks for your help
Hi mate,if your bike has a full service history,and any repairs done by a Kawasaki dealer,you may find that with the help of your dealer a goodwill post warranty claim may be forthcoming.At least its worth a try,and if they only offer a contribution towards the repair,it all helps. cheers.
Hello
THis is what I was thinking.
I just wanted some opinion before...and see if I was the first one having that..
Quote from: badaboum on September 02, 2012, 10:50:04 PM
DO you know where I can find the drawings and part number of the bike? (this is easilly available on Suzuki bikes)
Thanks for your help
http://www.kawasaki.com/DefaultFrame.aspx?strContentUrl=/SITE/VIVEHICLEINFORMATION/VICHOOSEVEHICLE.ASP
Select concours abs when you've searched for the model
Hello
Thanks a lot for this linkkkkkkkkk
Its realy usefull...
I have found the drawings that interest me :
and the attached part list
REF NUMBER PART NUMBER DESCRIPTION QUANTITY US CA CN REMARKS
132 132BA0612 BOLT-FLANGED-SMALL,6X12 2
13236 13236-0103 LEVER-COMP,FRONT BRAKE 1
13272 13272-0220 PLATE 1
21176 21176-0075 SENSOR,SPEED,FR 1
27010 27010-0025 SWITCH,BRAKE 1
43015 43015-0086 CYLINDER-ASSY-MASTER,FR 1
43020 43020-0010 PISTON-COMP-BRAKE 1
43026 43026-0011 CAP-BRAKE 1
43027 43027-0003 PLATE-DIAPHRAGM 1
43028 43028-0008 DIAPHRAGM 1
43034A 43034-1016 HOLDER-BRAKE,MASTER CYLINDER 1
43056 43056-1056 BREATHER-BRAKE 1 ]
43057 43057-1001 CAP-BREATHER 1
43078 43078-0048 RESERVOIR 1
92002 92002-1323 BOLT,SCREW,4X12 1
92015 92015-1233 NUT,FLANGED,6MM,BLACK 1
92033 92033-0034 RING-SNAP 1
92055 92055-0137 RING-O 1
92055A 92055-1251 RING-O,MASTER CYLINDER 1
92153 92153-0868 BOLT,LEVER 1
92153A 92153-1518 BOLT,SOCKET,6X22 2
92153B 92153-1853 BOLT,SOCKET,6X12 1
92171 92171-0624 CLAMP 1
92172 92172-0319 SCREW 1
92172A 92172-0320 SCREW,4X20 3
I beleive the leakage is coming from the 2 ring o seals
92055-1251
and
92055
My brake pads were changed 6 months ago. Do you think it has to do with it? I mean do the mechanics interact with this part of the lever when he refill the reservoir and dump the air?
Sorry for asking that but I am not a very good (yet) on braking system.
Thankss
Quote from: badaboum on September 03, 2012, 12:46:49 PM
I beleive the leakage is coming from the 2 ring o seals
92055-1251
and
92055
My brake pads were changed 6 months ago. Do you think it has to do with it? I mean do the mechanics interact with this part of the lever when he refill the reservoir and dump the air?
Sorry for asking that but I am not a very good (yet) on braking system.
Thankss
just replacing the pads will have nothing to do with the brake fluid, even if the brake fluid was changed it would not cause the reservoir to leak. did you ask the tech to change your brake fluid? even if your pads where really low the tech would have just most likely top your reservoir up! it looks like you have been unlucky in the fact that the seals have failed. if kawasaki don't replace or help with the cost, you can pick up a used reservoir from a breaker, there are quite a few newer gtr1400 models on ebay that bike breakers are dismantling or just replace the seals and re-bleed the system. the kawasaki a.b.s pump is a sealed unit so the system can be blead the conventional way :smiley:
As Dave has just said I would think the problem is that the seals have either perished or perhaps were not put in properly when they were last taken out for a fluid change .... but proving that a K technician is to blame would be a non starter ... a new plastic reservoir looks to be your only option .. replace the entire unit and be done with it. Sorry that doesn't help much. :no:
Quote from: badaboum on September 03, 2012, 12:46:49 PM
My brake pads were changed 6 months ago. Do you think it has to do with it? I mean do the mechanics interact with this part of the lever when he refill the reservoir and dump the air?
Possibly, if the mechanic was amateur enough to leave the fluid reservoir cap on whilst pushing the caliper pistons back into the calipers. Possibly the master cylinder o-ring would pop under that pressure when the reservior filled completely.
It would be near impossible to prove this though.
Martin.
Agreed
"Possibly, if the mechanic was amateur enough to leave the fluid reservoir cap on whilst pushing the caliper pistons back into the calipers. Possibly the master cylinder o-ring would pop under that pressure when the reservior filled completely.
It would be near impossible to prove this though."
Have to disagree Martin. By pushing the caliper pistons back would never pop the o-ring.
Deon
That's the problem
I will go and see Kawasaki when I'll have some times and see what the quote would be.
my bigest concern is to ''arrange'' the cosmetic paint issue that I have..
Don't know how they can do that..