Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => 1400GTR Discussion => Topic started by: pistole on August 02, 2012, 03:13:54 AM

Title: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: pistole on August 02, 2012, 03:13:54 AM
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/pistole/GTR/020820121214.jpg)

- could someone help with the size of the big allen key needed for this stem cover ? Am thinking it may be either 11 or 12 mm.

- am embarking on a DIY gps holder and will update on the progress here , if it will help someone else thinking of doing the same.

thanks.

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Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: O.C. on August 02, 2012, 08:05:16 AM
I tried to measure mine but can't get the vernier into it cos the sat nav is in the way...I'm pretty sure its 11mm

Hope that helps  :smiley:

Just a thought, if you plan to remove the stem head bolt it will need to be correctly re-torqued and that is  108nm or 78.7 ft.lb
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: pistole on August 02, 2012, 08:27:40 AM
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- yo, thanks for that.

- did try the vernier trick too but everything was in the way !!

- i don't actually intend to do away with the stem cover , but rather insert an allen key into it and weld a small plate onto the end of the allen key and mount the gps holder there.

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Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: Winston Smith on August 02, 2012, 08:49:32 AM
Why not just get the kawasaki sat nav mount.  Great bit of kit and made for the job.  Will look better than a home made lash job as well
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: pistole on August 02, 2012, 08:50:55 AM
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- am an incorrigible cheap skate ...

:smartass:

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Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: Winston Smith on August 02, 2012, 08:52:58 AM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

(Me too - but the kit isn't expensive!)
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: pistole on August 02, 2012, 08:56:27 AM
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- you don't know how cheap i am !!!

:banana:

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Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: O.C. on August 02, 2012, 09:01:45 AM
Quote from: pistole on August 02, 2012, 08:56:27 AM
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- you don't know how cheap i am !!!

:banana:

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I purchased a Kawasaki mount a couple of years ago which has been used on all three of my GTRs, its a superb bit of kit

BTW I'm a tight Yorkshireman, and I know all about being frugal   :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: viper on August 02, 2012, 05:10:41 PM
im sure i used either the 3/8 or the 1/2 inch square driver from my socket set
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: dokterdave on August 02, 2012, 07:53:44 PM
Its 12mm
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: pistole on August 03, 2012, 05:21:25 AM
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- thank ye kind Sir !

- Sir Fred also mentioned 12 mm.

- now this misguided knave can proceed to maketh his own gps mount ...

- peace be upon ye

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Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: Lonewolf on August 03, 2012, 09:31:48 AM
Quote from: pistole on August 02, 2012, 08:56:27 AM
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- you don't know how cheap i am !!!

:banana: 


We're beginning to realise

£80 approx will get you a very high quality techmount.
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: pistole on August 03, 2012, 09:43:31 AM
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- hey !

:laugh:

- the weekend is upon us !! Fabrication'R'Us !!!

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Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: pistole on August 03, 2012, 02:11:15 PM
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- have a gps mounting idea which is diabolically simple.

- below are the parts required :

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/pistole/GTR/GPSPlan1.jpg)

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- below is the plan :

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/pistole/GTR/GPSPlan2.jpg)


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Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: Debs on August 03, 2012, 03:31:44 PM
I have done my Ram Mount and it cost less than £20.

You will need:-

1 x Ram Ball
1 x M10 Washer
2 x M10 Long Nuts
1 x 100mm M10 Thread Bar
Waterproof Electrician tape. Its a rubber tape thats only sticks to itself.

Wrap some tape round a long nut. Just enough to make it hard to push in the Yoke Screw. Using the tread bar put it through the long nut and then using the other nut tighten it to pull the first nut & tape tightly in to the hole..

Undo the thread bar and take it out

Re torque the Yoke Screw back in to place.. The thread nut will then be visible inside.

Using lock stud glue, put the Ram Ball in to one end of the other long nut and thread bar in other end.. Once dry screw in to hole only finger tight..

Job Done  :clap:

Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: nogoslow on August 03, 2012, 04:07:58 PM
Seems like a lot of time and effort to make something that is already available for not much more than than you could make it yourself. Just buy a telferizer.  www.telferizer.com. I had a custom one made so that i could use a car satnav before i  bought my Garmin. worked really well. Maybe worth an e-mail.
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: Lonewolf on August 03, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
Looks like a lot of hard work.  :sad:
Pick up phone with Credit Card in other hand, dial and order. Wait two days and then unwrap.

(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/Fingers/100_0871.jpg)

(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/Fingers/100_0869.jpg)

(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/Fingers/100_0889.jpg)
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: viper on August 03, 2012, 04:21:29 PM
why would you go to the trouble of building a lovely website, but with no prices, people assume its expensive and cant be bothered to email the owners, bad marketing
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: Lonewolf on August 03, 2012, 04:24:36 PM
Quote from: viper on August 03, 2012, 04:21:29 PM
why would you go to the trouble of building a lovely website, but with no prices, people assume its expensive and cant be bothered to email the owners, bad marketing

:huh:  Viper who's that aimed at?  Which web site?
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: viper on August 03, 2012, 04:27:39 PM

this one lone wolf,


Quote from: nogoslow on August 03, 2012, 04:07:58 PM
Seems like a lot of time and effort to make something that is already available for not much more than than you could make it yourself. Just buy a telferizer.  www.telferizer.com. I had a custom one made so that i could use a car satnav before i  bought my Garmin. worked really well. Maybe worth an e-mail.
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: Debs on August 03, 2012, 04:44:53 PM
It wasn't hard work and I like it.. 
Why would I want to email for a price when I dont need one?  :grin:

Each to their own I say.  :whistling:
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: viper on August 03, 2012, 05:03:00 PM
well done debs, you made your own  :banana:
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: dokterdave on August 03, 2012, 07:34:19 PM
(http://www.bcmaccessories.com/media/catalog/product/r/a/ram-b-367.jpg)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110902138903?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D110902138903%26_rdc%3D1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110902138903?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D110902138903%26_rdc%3D1)

Just replace it with one of the handlebar bolts.
£12.17p
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: O.C. on August 03, 2012, 07:42:02 PM
Its no big deal some prefer to make their own accessries where possible, it provides that special kind of satisfaction.

Others will purchase a ready made component

One or two get lucky and send back the original item to Kawasaki because it was faulty, get a refund, and a brand new f.o.c item.



LIKE I DID  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:

As Debs said  "each to their own"   :agree:
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: pistole on August 06, 2012, 11:58:48 AM
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(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/pistole/GTR/060820121218.jpg)

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(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/pistole/GTR/060820121219.jpg)

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(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/pistole/GTR/060820121220.jpg)

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- done !  GBP2 (the 12 mm allen key) + GBP0.50 (17mm ball bearing) + GBP2 (for the shop to cut the allen key and weld on the ball bearing) = GBP5.50

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Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: O.C. on August 06, 2012, 02:54:57 PM
good man ~ very neat....and now you are a very happy bunny...and rightly so  :clap:
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: pistole on August 08, 2012, 08:21:50 AM
- took the big girl for a long ride today and discovered a couple of things :

- the ciggy port for the gps's power lead will not hold the plug securely , esp at high speeds. Probably needs to be permanently wired in.

- with a full face helmet , the stem nut/ base of risers position for the gps requires the rider to dip his head and totally take his eyes off the road to read the gps. Can be hairy. Its much better with an open face though.

- having a gps can be really godsent for unfamiliar roads, esp about towns , etc.

- am using a car gps unit (garmin nuvi) and there are no issues with using gloves with the screen, nor with screen visibility even with very bright sunlight. Just that with a full face + balaclave + earplugs = cannot hear the prompts. Not sure what would happen if it rained ....

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- the need to dip the helmet to read the gps : any way around this ?

- and rain with a car gps , what will happen ?

thanks

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Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: O.C. on August 08, 2012, 08:40:09 AM
Surely this is down to adjustment....I use a C3 helmet which as you know is a flip front and my GPS is perfectly visible to me by simply lowering my eyes for a spilt second, which is rare as the audible information is usually as much as I need.

I'm a bit confused by your post with regard to the stem nut/base of risers. its probably me that hasn't understood just what you mean, maybe a picture would help if you have one.

With regard to the Aux' socket on the bikes dash, I used this as a power source for two years on my first GTR and had no problem with it, sometimes the actual plug on your device can be a bit loose fitting in the socket and that would cause it to vibrate out...A small tip is to wrap the plug with an elastic band (you will find a red one in the flower bed next to your driveway)  :mfr_lol: make several wraps around the plug and then plug it in, it will help secure the plug into the socket and act as a rain shield, alternatively hard wire the device into the accessory cables on the bike, which are located front left on the bike, seen here on mine with extension cables fitted..... this will give a more permanent fixture, and free up the aux socket for a fag lighter  :mfr_lol:

(http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n326/oldeconey/GTRFRONTAUXPOWER002.jpg)
 
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: pistole on August 08, 2012, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: olde coney on August 08, 2012, 08:40:09 AMI'm a bit confused by your post with regard to the stem nut/base of risers. its probably me that hasn't understood just what you mean, maybe a picture would help if you have one

- basically its the position as per my picture above , with the GPS unit mounted (ie , at the base of the risers near the stem nut).

- as i understand Schubert helmets , their apertures are very large. I am using an Arai SK6/GP6 (basically a karters/car racing helmet) where the aperture is very small.

- maybe will experiment with the OGK which i have which has a huge aperture.

- thanks

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Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: O.C. on August 08, 2012, 09:10:15 AM
Gotcha. I'm not familiar with that particular helmet, but have just had a quick look and yes its a cart helmet with narrow aperture.

Any small adjustment of the device can make a big difference to the viewability of the screen  :smiley:
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: viper on August 08, 2012, 08:06:04 PM
i too found the gps unit far too low for safely looking down to it, to remedy this i bought a ram mount extension  arm , 2inch , it moved the gps unit up so now it sits just below my dials in eye sight line , the ext arm goes on to the ram ball at both ends
Title: Re: Stem Cover Allen Wrench Size
Post by: pistole on August 09, 2012, 12:23:23 AM
Quote from: viper on August 08, 2012, 08:06:04 PM
i too found the gps unit far too low for safely looking down to it, to remedy this i bought a ram mount extension  arm , 2inch , it moved the gps unit up so now it sits just below my dials in eye sight line , the ext arm goes on to the ram ball at both ends

- thanks for that , it was also my experience.

- some have mounted their GPS on a ram-ball mounted on the clamp for the clutch lever. But thats probably too far in the wind and perhaps prone to vibs.

- that and the bike's speedometer over-reads the actual speed (when compared to the gps's speed reading). The difference gets quite big at higher speed ranges.

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