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I have purchased one of these and have no idea where to mount it. I have had the bike in bits today looking for the best place. The only place I found where it will fit is behind the rad on the left and mount it off the engine/rad guard using a stainless steal pipe clip. I was hoping to mount it where the existing is, but theres a problem of it being in the way of the suspension and hitting the fender..
Has anyone else bought one of these and if so where did you mount it? Thanks..
I've not personally fitted one deb.. but I believe that behind the side fairing right side is a favourite spot
Give us a 'toot' and film it when its fitted...I bet it sounds ace
I just found this Debs, I think the guys reaction says it all :cool: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvJKp2t6uUE
Now that sounds awesome... :mfr_lol:
Theres no room on the right hand side.. Already tried putting it there, also I need a decent mounting point.
The only thing I worry about with putting it behind the rad on the left is whether there is a lot of heat and could affect it..
See this thread for pics of my install: http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,10.0.html
However, I believe its possible to separate the horn from the compressor and link via tube. This allows the horn to be placed in a better position.
Ah thank you for that.. I will see if I can separate it. :grin:
i found quite a bit of space under the right side for my car size airhorns
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g133/neill1200/Bike/DSCF0140.jpg)
I have now mounted the horn.. I wasn't able to split it as its not a gunuine Nautilus.
I have mounted it on the left hand side behind the rad.. I know it gets hot there and it will be interesting to see if its effected over time. Think I may buy some self adhesive heat shield and cover it.
I clamped a pipe clip to the engine guard bar and bolted a L bracket to that.. Then the horn was boled to the L bracket..
Arnt I clever... :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: It sounds awesome :mfr_lol:
Hae you wired it up to the leads from the original horn or elsewhere. Also stick it on You Tube and let shear it in full glory :banana:
Ive wired it through the existing horn leads :grin:
Quote from: deb3km on August 03, 2012, 04:35:58 PM
Ive wired it through the existing horn leads :grin:
You did use a relay right?
Yes I did.. :yes:
I am female.. I do read the instructions... :mfr_lol:
Quote from: deb3km on August 03, 2012, 05:20:35 PM
Yes I did.. :yes:
I am female.. I do read the instructions... :mfr_lol:
:huh: WTF are 'instructions' ???!!!
Quote from: Mogster on August 03, 2012, 05:25:40 PM
:huh: WTF are 'instructions' ???!!!
Something Men think were only made for us Women. Truth is we just like to do it correct the first time :mfr_lol:
Relay, youv'e lost me there! Is'nt a relay a race or something? :mfr_lol:
What does the relay do and where does it go?
Prevents circuit from being overloaded.
Wiring the existing horn wires to the new horn isn't a good idea as the new horn pulls a lot more power.
Instead, you wire a relay to the battery. The existing horn wires also wire into the relay. The relay will provide its own power which is connected to the new horn.
So when the horn switch is activated, it actually activates the relay. The relay gets its power from the battery, which then powers the horn.
Or that's how I think it works...
its a big switch thats operated by a little switch
Quote from: deb3km on August 03, 2012, 06:08:50 PM
Something Men think were only made for us Women. Truth is we just like to do it correct the first time :mfr_lol:
:mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: love it Debs....nice one :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
BTW does the horn sound 'good' (I nearly said horny there) :mfr_lol:
Quote from: olde coney on August 03, 2012, 07:45:30 PM
BTW does the horn sound 'good' (I nearly said horny there) :mfr_lol:
Yes it sounds awesome... Really loud... :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Quote from: viper on August 03, 2012, 07:41:02 PM
its a big switch thats operated by a little switch
:mfr_lol: yes, that's another way of putting it
Debs, was it easy to get the sides off ?
Just for info .... over on the GS forum there's loads about stebel horns....
The Nautilus needs a relay
The Magnum doesn't ,and is plenty loud enough also smaller than the Nautilus so easier to find a place for it to live ... I've had Magnum's on a few GS's without relays, and without any issues :yes:
Quote from: Bryn on September 12, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
Just for info .... over on the GS forum there's loads about stebel horns....
The Nautilus needs a relay
The Magnum doesn't ,and is plenty loud enough also smaller than the Nautilus so easier to find a place for it to live ... I've had Magnum's on a few GS's without relays, and without any issues :yes:
Canbus electrics on BMWs does affect the addition of accessories which is maybe why a relay is required in some cases...just a guess :eek:
Quote from: Bryn on September 12, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
The Nautilus needs a relay
The Magnum doesn't
- hi Bryn. Why do you say so ?
- want to know because if i can just use the original OE horn endings , fitting the uprated horns would be much easier rather than have to pull a heavy gauge +ve cable from the batt.
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Quote from: pistole on September 13, 2012, 08:43:30 AM
- hi Bryn. Why do you say so ?
- want to know because if i can just use the original OE horn endings , fitting the uprated horns would be much easier rather than have to pull a heavy gauge +ve cable from the batt.
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I've fitted magnum's before with no relays and no problems at all.... lots have done it.... but the nautilus is a bigger current draw I believe, so needs the relay
No mention here of a relay requirement ...
http://www.nippynormans.com/products/horns-exclusive/item/magnum-msx-horn-black-136db-without-spade-connectors-stb-zzz
I'd be happy to fit a magnum without a relay, but not the twin pack, and not the nautilus ......If you do a search on google for 'magnum relay' and have a look through the results you can make your own mind up
(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3332.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
- thank you !
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Quote from: olde coney on September 13, 2012, 08:09:12 AM
Canbus electrics on BMWs does affect the addition of accessories which is maybe why a relay is required in some cases...just a guess :eek:
Horn is not controlled by canbus!
Correct, it's the current draw that dictates the need for a relay ... or not as the case may be (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3334.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
Quote from: Ubertours on September 13, 2012, 06:57:53 PM
Horn is not controlled by canbus!
ouch.....thanks ! I was only guessing ya know :whistling:
I have fitted my magnum in place of the stock horn with no relay. Makes a pretty decent parp after a bit of tuning.
I don't use it very often, but when I do it certainly draws attention - especially coupled with my squeaky brakes :mfr_lol: :banana:
Actually, that makes my bike sound like a right shed... The brakes don't squeal so much anymore.
Cheers
Ros
Found this article today
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/article/articleview/384/1/28/
To OP: Just make sure you have a 20 amp in-line fuse close to the battery leads, it draws 18 Amp much more powerful than stock, so over time your stock fuse will blow.
Without relay ( not recommended) it works, but far less loud.
I put mine under the right side fairing with no issues whatsoever...
Quote from: ChrisB on September 15, 2012, 10:28:16 PM
Found this article today
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/article/articleview/384/1/28/
thats article suggests no relay if im reading it correct, the horn will work without a realy but may not works to its full decibel potential. Fitting relays is good practice and a very sensible thing to do, a lot of DIYers are put off fitting them as they dont understand the wiring, they are very straight forward to fit , the only additional wire you need for the relay is a hot wire to your battery , the other connections you use are the original horn wires and an additional earth to the frame , they easy to understand and once someone shows you how , you will be converted. being able to use a soldering iron is handy .
According to the Swedish site www.berup.com, Stebel stopped production of the Nautilus horn... True?
http://www.berup.com/berup%20test2be5.html
seen this on e bay bet this would sound great on a gtr .i had one on a car years ago great sound ang got loads of attention when it was sounded about a tenner i think.
I've always upgraded my standard horns to the Stebel Nautilus horns. Numpty car drivers just don't take any notice of standard horns.
Very compact and great sound.. haven't had a chance yet to mount it to the GTR, but will before the summer.
What kind of relay should one buy?
Cheers
Ros
Hi Ros,
I always use a 30amp 4 pin relay for the Stebel, but you could get away with a 20amp one though.
But definitely use a relay, standard wiring might be close to it's load limit to run the horn, better safe than sorry.
All the best.
Al.
Thanks for your reply.
Maybe I'm being a little daft, but where do you get one from? Ebay? Can you suggest a link to an example? i don't much play around with the electrics...
Sorry for being a pain
Cheers
Ros
Aaaah wait... You are talking about the Nautilus... I got confused with my Magnum !
Sorrrry! Will read the subject properly next time.
I blame my ipad (again)
As Bryn posted in another thread ( I think) magnum doesn't need a relay, so I should be able to get away without any clever electrics
:clap:
Thanks and sorry again
Ros
Quote from: Ros on November 22, 2012, 07:15:36 PM
Thanks for your reply.
Maybe I'm being a little daft, but where do you get one from? Ebay? Can you suggest a link to an example? i don't much play around with the electrics...
Sorry for being a pain
Cheers
Ros
You found one yet Ros?
Dealt with Nippy Normans many times.. I know hw's mainly BMW but a horn is a horn ...
http://www.nippynormans.com/
Yeah I fitted a Magnum but without Relay. I just got confused with the topics. Might be a good idea to fit a relay anyway...
The Magnum makes a big enough noise for me anyway :)
Air horn would be overkill IMO...
Ros, just got a Magnum... It's a bit tight as a straight swap.. I've turned the bracket upside down and then mounted it.. Do you find there's enough clearance when the forks are compressed? :wacko:
Edit: i think i may put the original back on, and piggy back the magnum... It should fit under the infil panel to right of the tank storage box.... :yes:
Edit no.2 : the original is louder than the new magnum :hammer: it's going back ,and I think I won't bother :no:
this one would suffice , 4 terminals,
Earth, battery , existing horn power, new horn
Bryn...
Try it with the engine running.
Then, tune it using the bolt.
And if the original is still louder, then I'd agree.
I have mine facing slightly to the side so as not to get too much weather in it...
However, mine does make a most satisfactory PARP!
Cheers
Ros
Quote from: Ros on November 28, 2012, 10:29:41 PM
Then, tune it using the bolt.
I have ordered my Magnum today :banana: - do they all need 'tuning' and is it easy?
I remember the older standard horns used to have a screw and lock nut to adjust the tweet.
I have no idea. When I connected mine and hit the horn button it wade a noise like...
"thunk...uh"
so then I twiddled the tuning bolt or whatever it is and got it to make a proper "PARP". Half a turn this way or that way at a time to see what difference it makes etc.
having the engine running obviously supplies the whole thing with a few more volts and so the parp becomes louder... That's my experience anyway.
I would advise not twiddling anything until you've tried it with the engine running anyway :)
Ros
Having installed a pair of air horns on my bike, through a relay, the main feed has blown a 10amp fuse
Does anyone know the fuse rating for a typical air horn compressor.
they do draw more than 10 amps, ideally you should read the instructions to obtain the correct rating but if not try a 20 amp fuse, the horns maybe rated to draw more than this, anything up to 30 amps is possible, anyway try 20a for now
If they are Nautilus then 15A should cover it mine are a copy and 10A is fine I would check the draw with an Amp meter if they blow the 15A mate