Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => 1400GTR Discussion => Topic started by: Debs on July 15, 2012, 03:39:31 PM

Title: Rust
Post by: Debs on July 15, 2012, 03:39:31 PM
As it was a decent day today I thought I would polish baby.. I was going to a better job than last time and take the screen and seats off..

After taking the seat off I noticed rust on top of the tank. Its bubbling in 4 places.. 2 on either side of the foam... Has anyone else found this? Baby is now 3 years old so cant approach Kawasaki.. The only option I seem to have is to clean it up and put black hammerite on.. Any other ideas would be appreciated..




Title: Re: Rust
Post by: Kwikasfuki on July 15, 2012, 03:47:02 PM
Same issue with my bike. I managed to find a new tank on ebay, otherwise would be sanding down and re spraying
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: BigAlan on July 15, 2012, 03:49:13 PM
I guess it's in a place which is not seen when everything is back on so if it was me I would get a wire brush in a drill and rout out all the rust especially,in the seams, you can get some rust treatment which prevents any left from coming back, then as you suggest perhaps Hammerite or some such paint would be best.

If your really wealthy buy a new bike  :mfr_lol:

Alan
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: viper on July 15, 2012, 04:29:35 PM
heard of this problem before, design flaw, water getting trapped against seat and tank developing in rust, if it were me, id rub down, not too agressively, use zinc primer paint . If you are concerned about the appearance when you sell or trade in you could attach a felt or rubber pad to the area to mask . Id also keep an eye on this area and make sure its not left wet after washing or after a wet ride
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: 2kwacks on July 15, 2012, 05:43:05 PM
the zzr1400 had the same problem, but got wind of it :smiley: before the rust started. it tended to rust around the lugs and where the water would hold under the seat, I brushed a thin layer of grease over and around the lugs and where the water tended to hold. 4 years later, not a sign of any rust :clap: prevention is better than cure :wink:
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: Mogster on July 15, 2012, 06:10:24 PM
Hey this is easy....all you do Debs is find someone who's GTR is in warrenty and swop tanks.... so then the 'In Warrenty' owner gets a new tank and your problem is sorted..  :banana:
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: Debs on July 15, 2012, 06:19:35 PM
The chances of finding someone willing to swap the tank in the hope they can get a new one through warranty is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack..  :mfr_lol:

I will clean it down with emery paper, coat it with zinc primer then finish off with black hammerite.. When thats all done i will coat it in Vaseline...  :grin:
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: BigAlan on July 15, 2012, 06:25:51 PM
Quote from: Mogster on July 15, 2012, 06:10:24 PM
Hey this is easy....all you do Debs is find someone who's GTR is in warrenty and swop tanks.... so then the 'In Warrenty' owner gets a new tank and your problem is sorted..  :banana:

I suspect there is a build date stamped somewhere on the tank as well so Mr K will check this first.

Alan
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: Lonewolf on July 16, 2012, 02:02:17 AM
I was going to say that Kwikasfuki only mentioned last week that he had ordered a new tank for an exceptionally cheap price off  Ebay I think it was. They do come up from time to time.

Personally if it was me I'd drain and take the tank off. Get it sand blasted and then powder coated. We have a decent powder coating place near where I live who have done bits and bobs on a different bike of mine. A tank woud cost about £40 with them.

I know this is for a 2011 tank but it gives you an idea on price. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-GTR-1400-FUEL-PETROL-TANK-2011-/261058707096?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3cc84fbe98 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-GTR-1400-FUEL-PETROL-TANK-2011-/261058707096?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3cc84fbe98)

Title: Re: Rust
Post by: O.C. on July 16, 2012, 08:32:50 AM
Debs, if you plan to effect your own repair then don't use anything too aggresive especially around areas where there is welding, otherwise you'll end up with a bigger repair or looking for a replacement tank !

I would use  a Halfords type rattle tin spray, after etch priming, and apply a few thin coats and gently build up the colour

Its true that this is an area that often gets overlooked and water will sit eventually causing rust...as 2Kwacks says prevention is better than cure
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: Debs on July 16, 2012, 01:07:00 PM
Lonewolf... That would seem like a good idea, but I have no idea of anywhere around here that does that, plus I dont have a car so no way of getting it to them...

olde coney... Yes I will be careful.. I didnt plan on using an angle grinder for taking the rust off..  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:

Shes my baby so will need lots of tlc and tender rubbing to remove the rust... Just hope she dont get to excited with all the attention I have shown her lately....  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: O.C. on July 16, 2012, 05:38:31 PM
well it seems she's been getting plenty "rubbing" recently so I'm sure she's all excited and ready to go  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:  :oops:
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: Lonewolf on July 17, 2012, 12:24:25 AM
Just Google powder coaters in your area, they'll be a few I'm sure.
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: Hans on July 17, 2012, 09:09:04 AM
Hmmm.....how old it that bike?

On my 2011 model I had the same problem. Tank swapped under warranty without any problem. If your bike has extended warranty ie. 4 years, then you should be able to claim a warranty-swap - since extended warranty follow the bike/owner.
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: cpettifer on July 17, 2012, 10:20:26 AM
I think mine has early signs of this - I must get onto it.

I'm beginning to think the finish on the GTR really isn't up to much. Rear shock is being replaced tomorrow, exhaust needs replacing, now the tank... Hmm.
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: 100milesaway on July 17, 2012, 07:08:09 PM
Top tip,  When you have washed and leathered the bike off, take the seat off and dry off the top of the tank as well. Also I dribble a small ammount of AC50 into the seams that are visible near the foam pad. :smartass:
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: Debs on July 17, 2012, 08:13:33 PM
Found a company just down the road who do Powder Coating. Going to pop over this week and see what they say..

The fuel is quite low so now is the best time, plus we supposed to have a indian summer next week..  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:


Title: Re: Rust
Post by: Lonewolf on July 17, 2012, 08:16:07 PM
Powder coating will give you a good result.
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: Debs on July 17, 2012, 08:21:08 PM
Thats what Im thinking...

If I did it.... By the time Ive rubbed it down... treated the rust areas, primed it and touched it up it will have cost me about £20 squid... So best to take it off and let someone else do a far better job on her... Just hope they can do the same colour with the sparkles of blue  :grin:

Title: Re: Rust
Post by: Lonewolf on July 17, 2012, 08:47:58 PM
I've used these chaps before. Not the cheapest powder coaters out there but their results are top notch. They will make colours to suit your requirements.
http://www.triple-s.co.uk/prices.htm (http://www.triple-s.co.uk/prices.htm)
Title: Re: Rust
Post by: viper on July 17, 2012, 08:48:56 PM
i doubt you will get a colour match in Powder coat , usually limited colour availability