HI new to the forum and the GRT just quick a few questions to the members, my bike is brand new well all most Ex demo with 250 miles and 2.5 K of the price tag.
1:- Temperature Gauge :- Should it get to say 3 bars then stay there whether you are in traffic or on the open motorway or does it go up and down depending on the road conditions. If i am say on a motorway at a constant 70MPH it will fall back to 1 bar when i get into town it will start to rise to 2 and 3 bar then drop back to 1 when i get on the open road again. Only reason i ask is my PAN did this as it was the thermostat that was stuck open.
2 What should the RPM be at tick over when idling mine can be anything from 1500 to 2000 again this could be due to a stuck thermostat as the engine is not getting up to the correct temperature so idling high.
Any help would be great Before I go back to the dealer.
UK9876
Hi. Your temperature gauge sounds like it is operating just fine. If it gets excessively hot in such a way that there is a fault somewhere it brings up a warning message. I have never seen the warning message but there is some info in the handbook about it. The gauge may even perfectly normally go upto full bars, that's still fine.
Tickover...... much too high. Should be about 1100rpm. You can alter it yourself from the screw dial on the nearside of the bike.
+1 sounds like your temp guage is working just fine. On the motorway there is plenty of air flowing through the radiator and therefore the temp guage will come down. When in town or slow moving traffic there is less air flowing through the radiator therefore the temp guauge will go up, at some point the fan will kick in.
Kind regards
Steve
Temp guage is fine. That's how they work on GTR
Tick over should be around 1100 to 1300
My bike is the same Temp wise, as the rest say its normal. What I have found with tickover is that with the Eco off its about 1200. With Eco on it sits 13-1500. Just switching it on and off when stationary in traffic causes it to rise and fall by a few hundred revs. I assume that as Eco leans it off, fine for cruising, the idle goes up to compensate for the lean mixture. It is very obvious when you do it. Also found that with Eco on in town and doing slow riding the bike isnt as smooth as with it off, lean mixture again no doubt. I now leave it off in town and put it on in the nationals when out for a commute or potter. :scooter:
Ever since my radiator leak and the subsequent fitting of the rad guard, the guage is one notch higher. It means the fan comes on more often. I might buy the aluminum fans as they are supposed to cool everything down quickly.
- yeah , on my GTR , the temp gauge is most "lively" .
- i had her idling for a while in the garage the first day i brought her home from the dealer and wasn't really paying attention ... then had a look at the dash and the temp-bars were full right to the top (!!).
- shut her down right quick and scurried to read the manual.
- learnt that : (a) don't idle too long , and (b) when it gets really hot there is a warning sign on the display.
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Quote from: Kwikasfuki on June 28, 2012, 09:09:53 AM
Ever since my radiator leak and the subsequent fitting of the rad guard, the guage is one notch higher. It means the fan comes on more often. I might buy the aluminum fans as they are supposed to cool everything down quickly.
Genearly speaking a Rad guard does seem to effect the cooling, it has done on most bikes that i have owned and fitted on too.... The Tuono, which has a numbered temp guage rather than bars runs, 5deg hotter with the rad guard on.
Quote from: pistole on June 28, 2012, 09:36:33 AM
<snip> the temp-bars were full right to the top (!!).
Pistole,
I think you need to double check that the fans are working. My fans come on just after the gauge hits 3 bars, and it never, ever goes higher than three bars no matter how hot or stationary the conditions.
I am also fairly sure that the dash flashes up a "Too Hot" type message if the bike does overheat. Sure I remember reading that in the manual, though never seen it in action.
Martin.
+1 on what Martin says. The fan kicks at 3 bars. I've had mine idling for ages in hot weather and the fan always kicks in
- the fans kick in and brings the temps back to "normal".
- have noticed that if you shut down just as she's peaking with heat soak , the temps will actually continue to rise a bit.
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Quote from: pistole on June 28, 2012, 01:53:00 PM
- have noticed that if you shut down just as she's peaking with heat soak , the temps will actually continue to rise a bit.
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What's "heat soak" ?
"Heat Soak" is basically the metal of the engine being warmed up by the combustion and burning of petrol that gives off heat which is absorbed into the metal of the surround ...... if you then remove that source, ie .. switch off the engine the metal will still be hot and may even increase in temperature for a short time as the metal is "soaked" in heat ... after time it will naturally cool.
Hope that's clear ! :smiley:
I was out on my bike today and it ran at 4 bars all of the time, on the Motorway, stuck in traffic, and having some fun in the lanes. I have got a rad guard and when stuck in traffic the fans were on a lot of the time. It was 26c today in Kent and 4 bars was the norm, my bike is a 2007 with 20k on the clock.
32 deg ride today, rad temp is 3 or 4 bars when on the move and i can hear the fans kicking in while we are moving. when in traffic in these temps the temps bars rise all the way to the top but do not get any warning messages. The fans are busy on this bike even in 15 deg temps but the bike always seems to deal with the temps.
If living in these higher temps maybe id consider running a 100% coolant mix to aid its cooling .
Quote from: Rusty on June 28, 2012, 10:12:35 PM
"Heat Soak" is basically the metal of the engine being warmed up by the combustion and burning of petrol that gives off heat which is absorbed into the metal of the surround ...... if you then remove that source, ie .. switch off the engine the metal will still be hot and may even increase in temperature for a short time as the metal is "soaked" in heat ... after time it will naturally cool.
Hope that's clear ! :smiley:
Ta Rusty I'm enlightened....every day is a school day ya know :yes:
The stock fans are plastic, there are 2 fans of different sizes, a large and a small.
Like Kwikasfuki wrote in an earlier post, aluminium fans are the answers. I installed the 2 Muzzys 6 blade fans and since then no problems, my fans will only come on at 4 bar level, I only hit 5 bars in Malaysia once under extreme heat but that was with the stock fans.
Hi folks,
I just arrived in the s of Fr after about a total of 900km.
The last 60km was in absolutely torrential thunderstorm rain and big hailstones. When I arrived the tickover was up at about 1500, which is normally what it does when i just fire it up from cold. The temp guage was normal 2 or 3 bars, but tickover way too high. I also noticed a kind of ticking noise from the engine (maybe valves or something) that i haven't noticed before. It just sounded a bit "rough"
Does anyone have any idea what I should check?
I added to this thread because the OP appeared to have a similar concern.
Thanks folks - excuse crap typing... I hate iPads.....
Cheers
Ros
Btw, 2010 model, full service etc. with about 15,500km
Hi Guys
Lets have a bit of common sence on this subject, its a temp gauge and it will go up and down and when the engine is getting to hot the fans will cut in. You should not get a too hot message only if there is a fault.
I have just done a 1200k tour of the south of France and guess what the gauge did go from 2 bars to 4 bars at which the fans cut in.Some days the temp was 37c plus and every thing was as one would exspect it to be.
Stop worrying and just ride it.....
Hi Howard, thanks for your reply.
Maybe I made a mistake by adding to this thread: I searched for high revs using the search form and this thread came up.
Just to be clear, I do not have a problem with the reading of the temp guage.
For some reason, the tickover is now at 1500 to 2000 revs all of a sudden and it is making some unusual ticking sounds coming from what is usually a smooth sounding motor. (noises associated with engine regime)
It may have had something to do with an excessive amount of precipitation going up the air intakes... I have no idea
I just wondered if anyone had experienced such a phenomenon and if anyone had any idea what I should check before I ride to a dealer and have it checked out.
:)
Ros
I would be surprised if the rain which was obviously extreme, has found its way into the intakes.
I would suggest that you back the revs off to a normal 1000 rpm (or thereabouts) and keep an eye on things
Make sure you check oil levels too :yes:
Hey Olde Coney,
This morning, after a cold start, it seems to be behaving itself again. After playing with the tickover yesterday, it was idling too slowly so I corrected it again. I let it warm up until the fans kicked in and nothing untoward happened... Stopped and started a few times to make sure and it seems to be ok.
I'll tear up and down the road in a minute and make sure...
Doesn't seem to be owt serious...
Was a bit concerned for a while!!!!
Ros
Quote from: olde coney on August 13, 2012, 08:16:49 AM
Make sure you check oil levels too
- yes , definitely a go back to basics.
- perhaps check oil + coolant levels , give the bike a good clean and check battery connections.
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Sounds like it may have sorted itself out :clap:
Yup! It's runing like a dream now!
Just cranked,on another thousand or so kilometers and absolutley brilliant. I love this bike.
If I could get it into the lift of the hotel i'd snuggle up to 'er tonight.
Mined ewe... The wife would probably have something to say about that...
Problem self fixed. So I'll just press on as if nothing happened! Looks like mine just doesn't like shitty weather. Can't blame it, I don't either.
See ya
And thanks for your comments :)
Ros
:punk: :banana:
:mfr_lol: The mind boggles..............they are a great bike though :agree: