Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => Accessories, Farkels and Mods => Topic started by: cpettifer on May 18, 2012, 11:00:46 AM

Title: Metzeler tyres
Post by: cpettifer on May 18, 2012, 11:00:46 AM
Interesting (brief) review of Sport Touring tyres:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG4VkYGBOv8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG4VkYGBOv8)

The new Metzeler ROADTEC Z8 tyres came out far quicker than the competition. Has anyone got any experience with Metzeler tyres?

I'll need new tyres soon, currently on OEM. On previous bikes I've had Avon Storms, good price and good in the wet as far as I can tell. General opinion these days seems to be PR3s are the way to go, but they a re bit pricier. These Metzeler's are bang in the middle for price. Should I be a guinea pig for trying them for the forum?! (although I'm not sure I'm experienced enough to say whether particular tyres are actually any good).
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: Kwikasfuki on May 18, 2012, 12:12:08 PM
You might want to read this thread first:
http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,733.0.html

Anyone know where fatharry is these days?
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: cpettifer on May 18, 2012, 03:43:02 PM
Interesting - anyone got any recent experience (or just other experience)? Could have been a dodgy set?

It'll depend on what I can get hold of and where I can get fitting done I guess partly.
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: Kwikasfuki on May 18, 2012, 03:47:34 PM
Could have been a dodgy set. Same with the PR3s in the same thread
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: Winston Smith on May 18, 2012, 04:44:27 PM
The FJR's at work come with Metzeler tyre - they appear to want to kill the rider with initial massive understeer followed by phenomenal oversteer!

Had the same on the FJR we tested down in France, however the FJR is awful anyway!

Did find they rode better on Bridgestones though.

My GS has Tourance by Metzeler and they are excellent tyres, grippy and confidence inspiring.
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: Rusty on May 18, 2012, 09:35:53 PM
Interesting bit of video ... he go the end wrong though .. he clearly meant to say   .... " The PR3's are the ones to go for ! "  :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol:
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: simbad on May 19, 2012, 09:29:18 AM
Not sure if this would swing it in favour of the Z8 - but you can get £25 cashback if you buy a pair/

http://www.metzelermoto.co.uk/web/products/promotion/default.page (http://www.metzelermoto.co.uk/web/products/promotion/default.page)
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: jenros on May 19, 2012, 09:57:40 AM
hi mate,had a set of metzlers on my vfr when i first had it,they were fine,,,had 5500 mls out of the first set,,put a new set on,sorry cant remember exactly what ones,but i had over 5000 out of these,when i sold the bike id say there were proberly 1000 plus left on them.
so in my opinion,in vfr mode,they were spot on,but to be honest i dont ride in the wet,only when im caught out.
My gtr has got pirelli angels,done about 3000 on them now....all good at the moment :yes:
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: fatharry on May 20, 2012, 06:42:38 PM
Quote from: Kwikasfuki on May 18, 2012, 12:12:08 PM
You might want to read this thread first:
http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,733.0.html

Anyone know where fatharry is these days?

I am here :-)....sorry been 'busy'...very long story......but slowly coming out of hibernation ....PS the GTR is getting ready to take me to Germany for a week starting next saturday.......just put another set of PR3's on...magic, oh and just to recap ...Z8's......hated them (on the basis they could have killed me!!)
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: Kwikasfuki on May 20, 2012, 08:05:01 PM
Quote from: fatharry on May 20, 2012, 06:42:38 PM
I am here :-)....sorry been 'busy'...very long story......but slowly coming out of hibernation ....PS the GTR is getting ready to take me to Germany for a week starting next saturday.......just put another set of PR3's on...magic, oh and just to recap ...Z8's......hated them (on the basis they could have killed me!!)

Good to hear from you fatharry. Its been a long hibernation!
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: Rusty on May 23, 2012, 03:43:44 PM
Blimey FH !!!!   :eek: ... welcome back !!! You ok ?
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: Andy on May 23, 2012, 09:39:07 PM
Metzeler site doesn't give a recomendation for GTR1400.. :biker3: http://tinyurl.com/bvl5yd4 (http://tinyurl.com/bvl5yd4)
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: dokterdave on May 24, 2012, 08:38:39 AM
Quote from: Andy on May 23, 2012, 09:39:07 PM
Metzeler site doesn't give a recomendation for GTR1400.. :biker3: http://tinyurl.com/bvl5yd4 (http://tinyurl.com/bvl5yd4)

Which begs the question
Who does list their tyres as recommended for the  GTR
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: Mogster on May 24, 2012, 09:31:55 AM
Quote from: dokterdave on May 24, 2012, 08:38:39 AM
Which begs the question
Who does list their tyres as recommended for the  GTR

Just bridgestone i think as according to my ...*pauses to spit on the floor* local dealer the GTR requires a 'special' front tyre.  :hammer:
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: Mogster on May 24, 2012, 09:57:01 AM
Ok juist had a look,
Michelin.... doesn't give a recomendation for GTR1400
Pirelli ....Recomends the Angels.... these were very good on Smartys Bandit ...the PR3's were fookin dreadful fer some reason  :huh:
Dunlop .... doesn't give a recomendation for GTR1400
Conti... recomends their entire tyre range ... :huh: sooo i wouldn't put much faith in that! :mfr_lol:

The only issue with fitting Non approved tyres is in the event of a total write off caused by rider error or poor conditions, the insurance company... might... try and wiggle out of the claim.
I used to own a fancy sports car and one of the conditions on the insurance was that approved tyres had to be fitted by the dealer only. so there is a presendence.
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: cpettifer on May 24, 2012, 11:00:31 AM
How odd. I get Michelin recommending PR3s...

Article in latest RiDE talks about tyre repairing in event of a puncture. A lot of recovery people will only repair Michelin tyres because they use Kevlar instead of steel bands in the tyres. When you then screw into the tyres with steel bands you can potentially break the structure of the tyre, making it practically useless. The Kevlar in Michelin tyres, however, doesn't suffer the same fate. Michelin even deliberately repaired a tyre 30 times just to see what would happen and it was fine.

They've basically moved to the top of my list now, despite being slightly more expensive. I'm probably looking to get some in a month or so.
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: Rusty on May 24, 2012, 01:24:02 PM
That is very interesting .. I did not know that little gem .. glad I am with Michelin then !  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: cpettifer on May 24, 2012, 02:44:14 PM
I'll try and remember to snap the article with my phone when I get home and post it.
Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: Kwikasfuki on May 24, 2012, 02:49:26 PM
Yes, the PR3s can be repaired. Have a read of this

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Products/productsresults/Tyres/2009/July/jul0109-british-standarsd-for-puncture-repairs/

Title: Re: Metzeler tyres
Post by: Lonewolf on May 24, 2012, 11:01:38 PM
I'd personally feel more comfortable dumping the tyre and starting again if I was unlucky enough to get a puncture.