Well I have reached 2000 miles and have taken to day to day riding without the panniers and just use the top box, panniers go on if Caroline is with me weekend breaks etc....., now its not in dispute that the GT is a handsome machine, however with the panniers off it looks unbalanced, the can looks like its just been lifted off a Truck, with this in mind I am considering replacing the standard can with a carbon fibre one from Beowulf, has anybody on here done the same and what impact does it have on the warranty, Beowulf claim that it does not affect fuelling at all, any advice would be appreciated.
Mark......
I have the Remus Hexacone and it hasn't impacted the fuel consumption or warranty.
Quote from: Norman Bates on November 14, 2010, 10:21:28 PM
I have the Remus Hexacone and it hasn't impacted the fuel consumption or warranty.
any chances of some pics if the remus fitted!
Quote from: 2kwacks on February 12, 2011, 07:18:23 PM
Quote from: Norman Bates on November 14, 2010, 10:21:28 PM
I have the Remus Hexacone and it hasn't impacted the fuel consumption or warranty.
any chances of some pics if the remus fitted!
Could be cleaner.
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a28/gnusblat/1400%20GTR/CIMG0570.jpg)
I have the Beowulf fitted - Excellent value, looks good, sounds phenomenol, no remap required - Good choice IMO (First time in 30 years I have replaced a standard exhaust)
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/Hoody_photo/CIMG2623.jpg)
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/Hoody_photo/CIMG2620.jpg)
both exhausts look excellent. still not sure about changing the exhaust, did want to keep the gtr1400 standard. do they do the beowulf warrior in black with the carbon end! like the trioval style! got 2 beowulf twin port trioval cans on my zzr1400 in stainless!
that beowulf can is the standard lenght, courious to see what the stumpty 380mm would look like!
I wanted the 'Warrior' but it wasn't available with the carbon end.
I did pay extra for the carbon end though (and I am not a carbon fibre fan tbh) but it does look sexy!
Why not keep the original can but do the cut down mod? There's a step by step guide on here.
I've taken the baffle out of the Remus. Must remember to put in back in for the MOT
can"t help thinking. that the gtr1400 should stay standard, dont ask me why! maybe the zzr1400 is a bit of a hooligan bike, so louder exhausts are excepted. but the gtr1400 is more of a sophisticated machine. or am just getting to old for all this bollocks!
Why not try a Freeflow systems stubby,very neat, no re map, great sound with or without baffle, good quality (made by Beowulf from all accounts) and the best bit -- it's just over a hundred quid on e bay! I did with no regrets at all.
Quote from: GTRnev on February 13, 2011, 02:10:47 PM
Why not try a Freeflow systems stubby,very neat, no re map, great sound with or without baffle, good quality (made by Beowulf from all accounts) and the best bit -- it's just over a hundred quid on e bay! I did with no regrets at all.
need some pics to see what it looks like!
I'm waiting for a Vance & Hines CS2 Black from USA :)
Quote from: Andy on February 13, 2011, 09:27:33 PM
I'm waiting for a Vance & Hines CS2 Black from USA :)
pics please when there fitted. that even may convert me, the beowulf have came close must admit!
Well said 2kwacks ... I just love the look of the standard GTR .... none of this chopping and changing nonsense !!!!
Was the Beowulf easy to fit......do like the look of it, find the 2009 exhaust a bit bulky without the panniers ???
Dead easy - half hour job
Hi. I have beowulf Warrior and sounds n looks good..
Its just up the road virtually from where I live is the Beowulf factory. Popped in a few times for various things, radiator guards, etc. Staff there are very knowledgable and helpful.
Quote from: 2kwacks on February 13, 2011, 09:52:18 PM
Quote from: Andy on February 13, 2011, 09:27:33 PM
I'm waiting for a Vance & Hines CS2 Black from USA :)
pics please when there fitted. that even may convert me, the beowulf have came close must admit!
Bike was delivered on Tuesday, Exhaust still in box. There are a few videos on youtube :-)
Quote from: Lonewolf on February 13, 2011, 07:59:44 AM
Why not keep the original can but do the cut down mod? There's a step by step guide on here.
Lonewolf, Can you please tell me where I can find the step by step guide to the cut down mod on the original exhaust.....I've looked eveywhere and can't find it! Also,do any other mods need to be done ie., mapping
Here you go....
I dont think any re-mapping is required. I believe its a simple chop down and away you go. ;D
Remove the pipe and take off the rear end cap (3 screws).
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod1.jpg)
I used a 4 1/2" angle grinder with a 50 grit flap wheel sanding disc for most of the grinding but I had to use my smaller 4" one with just a regular grinding disc in a couple of places in the corners. The flap wheel disc does a much smoother job.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod2.jpg)
Grind from the end of the muffler carefully removing material until you just see the parting line between the end cap and the outside muffler body.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod3.jpg)
Work your way carefully all the way around.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod4.jpg)
When you can see the parting line all the way around, take a very sharp narrow tool like a gasket scraper and tap it into the parting line to gently separate the 2 parts. I had my son hold onto the muffler body while I pulled out the guts of the muffler. It takes a fair amount of effort to pull it out. The mark you see all the way around the end of the muffler is just dirt that was under the end cap, this gives you an idea how much it will cover when you put it back on.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod5.jpg)
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Just pull out the inside portion of the muffler. It looks like this inside, there is a layer of steel wool type material that sits right up against the guts of the muffler and surrounding that is 2 layers of fibreglass muffler packing like I use on my dirt bike muffler when I repack them. This will all have to be removed carefully from the muffler case and wrapped around the guts when you put it back together.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod8.jpg)
The baffle portion looks like this.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod9.jpg)
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod10.jpg)
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod11.jpg)
I cut 4" off the front end of the baffle using a cutting disc in my 4" angle grinder. As you can see in the picture that removes the spark arrestor screen from the baffle.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod12.jpg)
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod13.jpg)
I then carefully measured 4" from the end of the muffler case and made a line all the way around the outside and marked it with masking tape. Then I cut off the 4" piece using a cutting disc in the angle grinder again. Make sure to wear a dust mask as some of the muffler packing will be cut and I'm not sure what it's made from. It could cause irritation if you breathe it in.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod14.jpg)
Here are the 2 pieces removed, 4" from the FRONT of the baffle and 4" from the REAR of the muffler case.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod15.jpg)
Make sure to test fit the baffle into the muffler case before you wrap on the packing. If you did not cut enough off the baffle there will be a gap between the end of the muffler case and the baffle end cap. I took the packing material out of the inside of the muffler case and installed it on the outside of the baffle. The baffle will not go back into the case without folding the packing material and pushing it all to the front of the muffler. I wrapped the steel wool stuff on first and wrapped it with masking tape in a few places to hold it tight. Then I wrapped the fibreglass material around that and again used some wraps of masking tape to hold it in place. The masking tape will eventually burn away. Some people use mechanics wire but I prefer masking tape. I forgot to take a picture of it before I pushed it back into the muffler case. This takes a little patience; make sure the packing slides in without bunching up.
When the baffle was back in the muffler I soaked an old tee shirt in water and laid it on the muffler case very close to the weld so the heat from the welding would not burn the paint.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod16.jpg)
Go slowly here, I just did 3 small spots at a time then allowed it to cool a bit before going on. I used small vice grips to pull the muffler case down to meet the end cap of the baffle. Move to a different spot often during welding so you spread the heat evenly and avoid distortion. When all the welding has been done you may need to remove a little material so the aluminium cap will fit back over the end of the muffler.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod17.jpg)
A little high temperature black paint (semi gloss) will prevent rust. If you have been careful none of this will be visible when the aluminium end cap is back in place.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod18.jpg)
Now just install the cap and bolt it back on. As you can see the end of the muffler extends just back of the pannier now and looks better. I don't think anyone who isn't familiar with the bike would even know it's been modified. It sounds stock except it is very slightly louder.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod19.jpg)
And the finished product......
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/GTR%20Exhaust%20Mod/exhaustmod21.jpg)
Thanks Lonewolf, the things you can find out on this site are unbelievable. 8)
Got my m8 to fit it :-) (http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5181/5687036080_cd69e9f38b_z.jpg)
I like the look of that. :)
Just looking at the cut down guide. Has anyone done this and how has it effected the noise level?
Why not try a Freeflow systems stubby,very neat, no re map, great sound with or without baffle, good quality (made by Beowulf from all accounts) and the best bit -- it's just over a hundred quid on e bay! I did with no regrets at all.
Any pics of this ? Would like to see it.
Deon
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-GTR1400-07-ROAD-RACE-SILENCER-LINK-PIPE-NEW-REMOVABLE-BAFFLE-/251145662844?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3a7972b17c
im just not into changing the exhaust, noisy bikes do nothing for me and i find it annoying when other riders makes theirs noisy. Baffle removed bikes gives us all a bad name when riding through little country villages , IMO
i have heard of some dealers trying to use the after market exhaust as a get out clause on warranty work, if its related, like the loosing header bolts or engine mountings .
so for me id keep the panniers on to mask the pig ugly spud launcher and spend your money on better clothing / protection or a safety related modification to your bike/ engine bars
I like quiet bikes
The K dealer I got mine from sold and fitted after market exhausts - as do Kawasaki with Akro's - so that would usurp any attempt to pull the warranty card!
Further back on this thread is talk of Freeflow-Systems. Got one and fitted it today. Not the stubby, but a standard 450mm can. As a bonus it is about 10kg lighter than the original. Sounds really good without being at all excessive.
And "Yes" it is made by Beowulf.
Before
(http://imageshack.us/a/img715/3539/sdc10101l.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/715/sdc10101l.jpg/)
After
(http://imageshack.us/a/img577/6663/sdc10107mj.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/sdc10107mj.jpg/)
If that sounds as good as it looks you will no doubt be very pleased :yes:
Im so hung up on the vance and hines exhaust i dont know whether to spend that bit extra and risk the additional customs charges, or just settle for a nice remus okami :undecided:
I modified this to fit on my 2009 GTR :yes:
(http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n326/oldeconey/PICTURESIMPORTED2600.jpg)
Here's a photo of my freeflow systems stubby exhaust. Still selling on ebay for just over £100!
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o712/nevfoz/0ea2c804-f256-4bf1-86e0-8b832a3ba5cd_zps639285b1.jpg)
... another image of the freeflow systems stubby pipe. :clap:
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o712/nevfoz/IMG_3894_zps956e5713.jpg)
Quote from: GTRnev on March 24, 2013, 08:21:33 PM
... another image of the freeflow systems stubby pipe. :clap:
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o712/nevfoz/IMG_3894_zps956e5713.jpg)
That's a hell of a bike wash you have there, seems to keep the bike nice and clean, where is it??
Clive
Just north of Suldalslosen on our western Norway trip last June! Excellent biking to be had over there. (except for some of the older badly lit tunnels!)
Hi Nev, how ya doing ?
Haven't seen you around for a while
I'm doing fine thanks Roger,
Still got the GTR & Versys, just hanging around waiting for winter to disappear so I can ride them!! (I know Geoff, bit of a wuss!!)
I'm still looking forward to calling in at your Rev Shed sometime to admire your bike collection, this will be the year,honest!! :rolleyes:
After reading your recent posts, I wish you well with your treatment and am truly inspired by the very positive way you are handling the situation.
see you at the bridge soon,
Nev :smiley:
Good to hear from you Nev and you're always welcome at the 'Rev Shed'. Thanks also for your comments :smiley:
Quote from: GTRnev on March 25, 2013, 09:11:22 PM
I'm doing fine thanks Roger,
Still got the GTR & Versys, just hanging around waiting for winter to disappear so I can ride them!! (I know Geoff, bit of a wuss!!)
I'm still looking forward to calling in at your Rev Shed sometime to admire your bike collection, this will be the year,honest!! :rolleyes:
After reading your recent posts, I wish you well with your treatment and am truly inspired by the very positive way you are handling the situation.
see you at the bridge soon,
Nev :smiley:
No Nev I dont think you are a BIT of a wuss. I was thinking more FULL ON :mfr_lol: :mfr_lol: :whistling: I'm sure the sun will be out soon though, and I will see you up at the "Bridge". :wink: :yes:
Quote from: GTRnev on March 24, 2013, 08:12:27 PM
Here's a photo of my freeflow systems stubby exhaust. Still selling on ebay for just over £100!
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o712/nevfoz/0ea2c804-f256-4bf1-86e0-8b832a3ba5cd_zps639285b1.jpg)
I see you have 2 straps on there, does it come with 2 ?
Ant
Yup, two straps and the triangular bracket thingy.
And weighs about 15 kg less than the original
Yes, two straps in the box with the silencer,bracket,clamps etc. ready to bolt straight on. All good quality kit (Beowolf) at a very reasonable price!
Cheers.......ordered :yes:
Good man! Let us know what you think of it when it's fitted :clap:
Glad you put photo up actually as the tank bag is the same as i'm after and its not a bad match.....I already have the bag for the FJR so seemed pointless to go for something different......
Quote from: Burchy on April 09, 2013, 07:07:50 PM
Yup, two straps and the triangular bracket thingy.
And weighs about 15 kg less than the original
And I think it looks better......
:yes: the baglux tank cover and bag works very well. I bought mine through a firm called Native Viking on e bay.
Viper:
Quoteim just not into changing the exhaust, noisy bikes do nothing for me and i find it annoying when other riders makes theirs noisy. Baffle removed bikes gives us all a bad name when riding through little country villages , IMO
I couldn't agree more! Much better to hussle! :whistling: