Anyone had the following warning come up' That their tyre sensor battery is running low'?
Pit peed off as the bike is only 11 months old.
I take it inside the rim with the sensor is a battery and the next time I replace the tyre I need to replace the battery. Seems a lot of work to do before then, with the hassle of taking off the tyre just to replace a small battery.
Also can anyone tell me are they like the hearing aid batteries or something exotic to Kawasaki with an exotic price?
I am led to believe that they are under warranty same as the bike so give your dealer a call and let him know, ideally the time to change the battery is when changing tyres but if yours have loads of life left in them then it's down to the dealer, you may get more advice from others here who know better.
Alan
The battery in question is a CR2032 button cell,with tags on. I'm about to change mine along with tyres at the end of the week. They have to be soldered in on pre-2010 models,K reckon it can't be done and you have to replace the whole sensor, we'll see, but later ones may be replaceable. I will post later in the week.
Thank you both for this. It does seem to be a bit rich that this needs doing. My bike is a 2009 but I bought it brand new in early 2011. (Got a good deal) so will check re the warranty. If they give me the sensor than I will get that fitted when I change the tyre. Would you believe my dealer does not do tyres.
Thanks for all the info. This just shows how valuable this web site is. No need to join the owners group.
Hi there,
I don't know if you have this sorted by now, but I have the same problem. Kawasaki have agreed to replace these under warranty for me (2010 Gtr) so I am awaiting the delivery to my local dealer...(Although I have been waiting for over a week!!!)
Hi
I had the same problem with mine when it was a year old,it only normaly happens at low temps. Kawasaki Bornmouth changed both of mine under warranty.They have been ok ever since,mind you there is no chance of me taking the beast out for a run as we have 8 inchs of snow and its -9 as i type.(we do live in france and yes we did move here for better weather!.)
H
Quote from: Ubertours on January 28, 2012, 05:32:22 PM
The battery in question is a CR2032 button cell,with tags on. I'm about to change mine along with tyres at the end of the week. They have to be soldered in on pre-2010 models,K reckon it can't be done and you have to replace the whole sensor, we'll see, but later ones may be replaceable. I will post later in the week.
"have to be soldered in on pre-2010 models" 2010 onwards or the traction control model, you can simple replace the battery with out soldering. well if thats the case I'm as happy as a pig in shit :grin: if not then :sad:
Quote from: howard on February 12, 2012, 06:29:28 PM
Hi
I had the same problem with mine when it was a year old,it only normaly happens at low temps. Kawasaki Bornmouth changed both of mine under warranty.They have been ok ever since,mind you there is no chance of me taking the beast out for a run as we have 8 inchs of snow and its -9 as i type.(we do live in france and yes we did move here for better weather!.)
H
you have my sympathies....I hate the winter weather more and more the older I get
Quote from: 2kwacks on February 12, 2012, 09:23:51 PM
"have to be soldered in on pre-2010 models" 2010 onwards or the traction control model, you can simple replace the battery with out soldering. well if thats the case I'm as happy as a pig in shit :grin: if not then :sad:
Sorry, NOT is the answer. :no:
All years Tyre Pressure Sensors are the same.
I've seen the pics on one of the US forums.
You have 2 choices once the TPS battery runs out if the bike is out of warranty.
1- Remove tyre, remove TPS, open TPS, unsolder battery, solder in new battery, reassemble, refit, refit tyre.
If you replace the battery the TPS is already coded to your bike.
2- Buy a new TPS sensor and pay a Kawasaki dealer to fit it AND code it for your bike.
If the bike is still in warranty then it's Kawasaki problem as the batteries should last 5 years.
The first warning is usually that you get the warning in cold weather.
Once it warms up you may get the rest of that year before the battery actually dies the following winter.
Mine have lasted from Aug07 to now but I am now getting the warning. :help:
...hmmm...
Does anyone know of if it would be possible to disable the low battery warning - at all - if "one" don't want to refit or just ignore?
Quote from: mosegaard on February 13, 2012, 04:20:23 PM
...hmmm...
Does anyone know of if it would be possible to disable the low battery warning - at all - if "one" don't want to refit or just ignore?
According to Cradely Kawasaki the warning can not be disabled, Ive just replaced the batteries in mine and its not as bad as it sounds, honest.
im riding a 2010 gtr now but had a grey 08 before that i bought second hand which suffered the same low batt after been stored all winter, when used a while and the tyre warmed up it stopped doing it and was fine till i got rid of it at the end of that year they are prone to this i think
Quote from: Ubertours on February 13, 2012, 04:42:38 PM
According to Cradely Kawasaki the warning can not be disabled, Ive just replaced the batteries in mine and its not as bad as it sounds, honest.
thats sounds promising :smiley: whats involved if you solder yourself? suppose the problem is you need to take the wheel to the dealers or bike shop to have the tyre removed, I'm sure there not going to be to pleased when you say hang on while I solder this new battery in place before you fit the new tyre. unless you have the tyre removing machine suppose you have no choice but to take the dealer to do it. Mr kawasaki as stitched us up on this "me thinks" :angry: :sad: :cry:
My 2009 6000 miler started this nonsense yesterday, It was really cold and the message went away once I had been out for about 20 mins, thought I had a puncture until I read my manual when I got back, Seems crazy that the battery life is so short, my tyres are new, put on just before I bought the bike so they won't need changing for ages, I have the extended warranty 'till 2013, I'll see what happens once the decent weather comes back., only got the bike late last summer, beats my 2004 FJR in just about everything. Cheers, Donald
I've never had any problem with any of my GTRs...but I can see that it would be very annoying, especially if thge 'problem' occurs just after having tyres fitted.
I suppose it would be a prudent move to replace potentially worn out batteries during a tyre change..
It seems that the life expectancy of batteries isn't directly related to mileage, maybe its more of an age thing ?
A bit like yer sen Olde? lolol :clap:
yep...there's no denying that :mfr_lol:
Had my first ride of 2012 yesterday great to be on the old girl again 112 miles. the tyre warning read out came on after 500 yards & disapeared after 2 miles no problem after that readings showed 42psi front & rear. Looks like the batteries dont like sitting in the cold garage. So I wont worry if it happens like that again.
I've had my 07 plate now for almost two years, touch wood, no problems....that was up to the day we set off to The Bridge last weekend, from home to Hein Gericke at Bradford the warning message came on and then vanished. Not seen it since. If I keep the bike for this year it will need new tyres in a few months time so I will have the battery's changed at the same time.
Would somebody who knows how to do this be so kind as to put together an idiots guide, step by step and maybe it can become a sticky for future victims.
I agree, that it seems to be a cold morning thing. It comes on for a few minutes and then goes out and the tyre pressures are shown as normal.
The first time it happened I checked the tyre pressure myself, just to check, and it was showing the pressure correctly.
Is just a bit off putting at first.
How on Earth did we manage without them eh?
Are the TPS bolted inside the rim, stuck or what?
I don't need any but when I do if I can remove them easy peasy then I can take them to work and get the electronics guy to solder the new battery in, otherwise it's me and my glasses, that's when it's out of warranty tho.
Alan
Well it finally went into get the sensors fixed and after waiting all day I went to collect the old dear. Guess what, they couldn't get the new sensors to register on the ECU. I now have to wait until the 26th to take it in for the whole day again.
Had a puncture last night so I really could have done with them!!!
A note to you all, be careful when you remove the tyres as they crushed the sensors when getting my tyres off.
Quote from: Dive1082 on March 07, 2012, 10:30:34 PM
A note to you all, be careful when you remove the tyres as they crushed the sensors when getting my tyres off.
That is an easy mistake, which has been reported before, and tyre fitters need to be advised of this potential problem before tackling the job :yes:
Are the sensors opposite the valve stem? or ar they somewhere else? how big are they?
I ask because my mate fits my tyres and when i need some i want to be well armed with info so we dont break anything.
Alan
Quote from: BigAlan on March 08, 2012, 08:18:38 AM
Are the sensors opposite the valve stem? or ar they somewhere else? how big are they?
I ask because my mate fits my tyres and when i need some i want to be well armed with info so we dont break anything.
Alan
The sensors are on the valve stem.
I always inform the tyre fitter of this and then watch them when they're changing the tyre. Several times I've had to remind them.
Trawling another site I found this info on changing batts and some pics.
To access the battery, the two halves of the TPS come apart, there is a single screw hidden underneath the stick-on label. Then there are two plastic clasps that can be caerefully opened with a tiny flat blade screwdriver.
A heat sink is suggested to protect the electronics during the de-soldering/soldering operation. A desoldering braid or vacuum will help also. The tabs on the replacement battery are not properly aligned and must be bent to match up with the leads on the circuit board.
Pics: http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/tiresensor
Might help. Thanks to the other poster.
Yes, that's Fred Harmon's site and he's a moderator on one of the US forums: http://forum.cog-online.org/
If you haven't already, it might be worthwhile purchasing his maintenance DVDs. Very informative.
Looks like is my time now to put 300 $ + for new sensors :angry:
But my biggest concern is if those guys at Service will be able to program that damn thing. :grin:
if you do nothing at all and just leave the alone does the warning stay on all the time or does it clear so you can see the other displays ........... :biker3:
If you do nothing the warning will stay until the batteries are completely dead at which point the tire pressure display will vanish from the dash as if it had never existed.
well that sounds good to me , i can well live without some thing i never had on my previous 50 bikes . i will just check tyre pressure as the old way . same old story these things are great untill they go wrong. then its a lot of hassle or lots of cash...............
or both :whistling:
Quote from: jonathan on December 19, 2012, 03:56:39 PM
If you do nothing the warning will stay until the batteries are completely dead at which point the tire pressure display will vanish from the dash as if it had never existed.
Welcome Jonathan... who and where are you
Dont be shy...introduce yourself...we wont bite :mfr_lol:
From this http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/tiresensor page, just a couple of questions, where do those angled valve stems come from as I have an angled valve attachment I put on every time I put air in?
and
Can I buy these batteries with tags on which would be easy to solder or have I got to get solder fixed to these batteries which I think I have done years ago and found it difficult due to the smooth surface .
Bob
There you go Rob
Right Angle Valve.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=Right+Angle+tyre+valve&_sacat=0&_odkw=Right+Angle+tyre+Stem&_osacat=0&_from=R40
Battery for Sensors
http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/displayProduct.jsp?sku=1892670&action=view&CMP=GRHB-OCTOPART-1000755
OR
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-CR2032-PANASONIC-BATTERY-W-TABS-FREE-SHIPPING-/200609112547?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb53c21e3&_uhb=1
Have you guys bought and used these right angled valves ?
The reason that I am asking is that I have bought 3 of them ( different brands ) and none of them work. Seems like the valve on the TPS bikes are too short.
Will be interesting to know if yours works on the TPS valve.
Deon
I dont have them Deon..
I leave all the blowing up of tyres to others.. :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Deon on December 20, 2012, 11:25:11 AM
Have you guys bought and used these right angled valves ?
The reason that I am asking is that I have bought 3 of them ( different brands ) and none of them work. Seems like the valve on the TPS bikes are too short.
Will be interesting to know if yours works on the TPS valve.
Deon
I bought these ones HERE (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAIR-MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE-TYRE-VALVE-EXTENSION-ADAPTOR-90-DEGREE-ANGLE-CAR-BIKE-/320993389797?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item4abcb26ce5) from fleabay and they work
I keep one on the bike and one in the garage/workshop
Does your bike have TPS fitted ?
Deon
I also use a right angled valve for topping up the tyres, have done for years and it works just fine. Just never leave it on when riding the bike...... :nono:
I bought some right angle valves from HG for emergencies and they fit OK.
The only problem I found is that half the air you just put in escapes when you take them off.
So how do you manage to get the right air pressure?
I find it absolutely disgusting that gas stations charge you for air and then provide gear that works only on cars. :gun_bandana:
mecki, I use a Halfords tyre inflator http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_215808_langId_-1_categoryId_255241 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_215808_langId_-1_categoryId_255241) I cant fault it. Set it correctly, it accuartely inflates the tyres even with the right angled valve on, take the valve off, and the GTR display indicates correct tyre pressures.
If your valves are causing an unacceptable loss of air you have a problem somewhere.
Chaps, I had my rear tyre of today to plug a nail hole and decided not to put it back on yet before changing the battery in the the rear TPS, has anyone actually had a crack at this please
ive fitted batteries in my TPS, easy peasy if you can use a soldering iron, tghere is a thread on here about it. My nbike is an 2010 , later bikes came with sealed TPS , so you will need a new unit.
if you have the tyre off why not change to the angled valve stems as well
http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=4032.0
some useful
photos on page 1
i had the front T.P.S.warning up on the screen on my 12 plate gtr after having the bike for about 18 months,it was on a very cold morning,when i set off the warning went,it never appeared again until about 6 months later,i took out the extended warranty,took it back & they replaced the whole sensor,i believe they've upgraded the sensor as the one they fitted looks different,the stem on the replacement has a nut on the stem.