the problem with panniers coming off when they have been secured properly , is that isolated to pre 2010 models, did they upgrade the clips, ive tried to wrench mine off , and its possible but id end up breaking something, they do feel secure.
I was considering fabricating some sort of clip or even adding a cable tie somewhere on long hauls
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I'm sure they upgraded the catchers that hook to the hinge on the bike. mine's the 2010 model and they seem secure enough to me! it would be nice to know if any 2010 onwards models lost there panniers during riding. I'm sure someone will advise us on this query :)
ive read on another forum about the '10 models panniers with the orange tabs better put still can be pryed off with minimal force.
Im going to do the Mvelario mod which is a small hole drilled through the tabs from the inside and an allen key fed through latching onto an adhesive magnet, got the magnets off ebay for £2 for 12
some pics when you done it please! I asume the panniers would be just as easy to remove as intended by Mr kawasaki. to be honest, can't see the panniers coming off if attached correctly when riding, are you doing this so there not so easy to be forced off!
There are some clips available on eBay from the good old USA but there about £18 inc postage, I would also be interested in this fix just form price of mind.
Alan
On the pre 2010 models the original clips were red but after the recall they were exchanged to orange. I've never experienced any problems with mine, I'm not saying that if I was very determined I couldn't rag them off but why wound I want to do that? In normal riding conditions they have NEVER given me cause for concern.
This is interesting. When my 2011 bike fell over on the ferry last month the right pannier detatched itself. I refitted it for the trip home and it seemed solid on the bike. No marks on the mounting lugs and the handle was still in the locked position . I can only imagine something flexed on impact.
Should have the bike back this week and the ferry company is picking up the £5,000 repair bill. (incl.a new Schubert C3)
http://yfrog.com/9ggtr1400z
This is how they can be removed when locked
Im going to do this Mod in the week, so hang fire buying those clips from the usa . MGvalerios fix is unbelievably simple, cheap and effective. and cant be seen from the outside . just waiting for the magnets to come
my orange tab pannier , can be lifted off the rear hook and if i used a bit more force would easily come off but possibly damage the catch, even if you think the pannier would not bounce off the extra security benefit would make this mod worthwhile
A new pannier and lock mechanism is over a £1000 and you may need an additional lock for the other pannier so add another £300 ?
New lock £229 + VAT , so I'm using the one off the old pannier .
Quote from: wiltsguy on January 15, 2012, 04:11:17 PM
New lock £229 + VAT , so I'm using the one off the old pannier .
How are you going to do that if somebody ripped off your luggage?
Even though I reckon the chances of that are pretty slim. :-\
OTOH I can't see the panniers falling off while riding.
Quote from: viper on January 15, 2012, 11:25:20 AM
Im going to do this Mod in the week, so hang fire buying those clips from the usa . MGvalerios fix is unbelievably simple, cheap and effective. and cant be seen from the outside . just waiting for the magnets to come
When you have done this mod can you give details of what is needed and how it works please?
Thanks
Alan
Quote from: BigAlan on January 15, 2012, 04:46:47 PM
When you have done this mod can you give details of what is needed and how it works please?
Thanks
Alan
will post up a full pictorial thread before end next week on this inc the parts ive bought off ebay, i did one pannier today and it works just fine and cost less than £5
Simple & cheap solution: strips! 8)
Quote from: viper on January 15, 2012, 05:09:06 PM
will post up a full pictorial thread before end next week on this inc the parts ive bought off ebay, i did one pannier today and it works just fine and cost less than £5
That's the best sort of modifications I like, cheap and effective.
Alan
Here is a link with pics on the US site:
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1152.msg11590#msg11590 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1152.msg11590#msg11590)
This is a horror movie from 04:35 onwards......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnei5Ide6g&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnei5Ide6g&feature=player_embedded)
I purchased some magnets off eBay and I didn't realise how strong they were. Rather than pinning, which is inconvenient if you're constantly taking the panniers off, how about putting a metallic plate which is secured by some magnets. I guess it could still dislodge.
Mr Viper
Did you ever complete the pannier mod with the magnets?
Alan
Hi Alan,
The pics will really tell the story. You need some allen keys at 2.5mm ebay 4 for £2.50) and some strong but small magnets, the ebay ones were rubbish so I found that staples sold 6 on a blister pack for £3
Drill your pilot hole as per the first pics, put the pannier into place and then drill a 4mm hole right through the pannier and through the hooks on the body. 4mm is the correct size if you put some shink wrap on the allen keys to aid grip, with out the shink wrap you will need 3mm, but experiment with sizes before you commit
I glued the magnets in place with some mitre fix but you could super glue or silicone . The magnet just holds the head of the key in place and is handy storage when not being used.
I saw another mod where the guy had used a much bigger clip through the bottom support but this could be pulled out by your pannier thief. Pm me if you need any further
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g133/neill1200/Bike/pan3.jpg)
inside the box
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g133/neill1200/Bike/pannier.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g133/neill1200/Bike/pannier2.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g133/neill1200/Bike/pan5.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g133/neill1200/Bike/pan4.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g133/neill1200/Bike/pan6.jpg)
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Thanks for this, I shall investigate this when the footy has finished.
Alan