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1400 GTR - All Models => Accessories, Farkels and Mods => Topic started by: mark on December 13, 2011, 04:12:27 PM

Title: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: mark on December 13, 2011, 04:12:27 PM
Hi All,

In advance i will apologise for being useless at anything electrical in nature!

Just fitted the Sat Nav mount to my bike and acquired a Garmin Zumo 500 from Ebay. It comes will all manuals and unopened,  unused motorcycle power cable. Do i need to purchase from Kawasaki a power lead which can be just plugged into an unused socket on the bike and to the Garmin Cradle?

Any ideas how to do it?

Thanks

mark

Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: Cartman on December 13, 2011, 04:30:43 PM
This thread should answer your questions
http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,72.msg441.html#msg441 (http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,72.msg441.html#msg441)

Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: Kwikasfuki on December 13, 2011, 04:33:04 PM
I assume its the same fitting as the Garmin 550.

Have a look at this thread (http://www.gtr1400.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,72.0.html).
Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: mark on January 08, 2012, 10:53:29 AM
Hi Guys,

I got the beast out yesterday to hardwire the Zumo 550.

The message above with the link was great as it showed a photo of the left side upper/inner fairing removed and the plastic sheath covering the bikes electrical connector boxes and indeed two cable with bullet connectors on it. One black/yellow cable negative and one black cable positive. So i had a go at what seemed to be a very easy fit! (So I Thought)

The info was slightly different than mine turned out to be as mine is a 2010 bike and the inner/upper fairing houses the on/off switch for the headed grips and the luggage box but that said the described cables were under the sheath.

I fitted the mounting bracket and the Garmin Sat Nav Holder to the bike, I then used bullet connectors to attached the red live cable with the inline fuse to the black cable on the bike and the black cable from the sat nav power lead to the yellow and black cable on the bike. I then fitted the other end to the Garmin cradle and screwed it down with the two tiny screws. I started the bike and attached the sat nav but it is not charging from the bike!

So in conclusion,

The zumo 550 sat nav definately works as it charges from the car charger!
The power lead was purchased brand new!
Ive definately attached the two wires correctly, red to bikes black and the sat nav black to the bikes yellow/black cable.

I have in fact purchased a brand new Garmin Sat Nav Holder yesterday thinking that that is the only other thing that may be the problem so when it comes i'll give it a go.

If the sat nav still does not charge from bike with the new holder (when it comes) has anybody got any ideas what it could be? Other than no power coming from the two bike cables i am a little stuck. If there is no power from the bike cables what could be the problem? Plus i aso noticed that the luggage box has a wired connection so that it can only open when the bike is powered up, would i be able to take the power from that to charge the sat nav?

Im stuck so any help would be really appreciated,

Thank you

Mark



Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: Lonewolf on January 08, 2012, 02:53:45 PM
Is it that it's not charging the zumo or is it a case of its not powering the zumo on?
Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: mecki on January 08, 2012, 03:09:34 PM
Why don't you do what I did?
Just ask your Kawasaki workshop to wire it up for you.
Mine did it for free.
Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: Mogster on January 08, 2012, 03:41:30 PM
Quote from: mecki on January 08, 2012, 03:09:34 PM
Why don't you do what I did?
Just ask your Kawasaki workshop to wire it up for you.
Mine did it for free.

Yup have to agree with mecki here, i got my local dealer to do it, he charged me £30 which wasn't too bad considering the amount of swearing coming from the workshop!
and mine auto powers on and off  ;D
Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: mark on January 08, 2012, 05:40:57 PM
Quote from: Lonewolf on January 08, 2012, 02:53:45 PM
Is it that it's not charging the zumo or is it a case of its not powering the zumo on?

Hi, The zumo starts up no problem but is not charging from the bike. It is being powered from its own battery which lasts for about 4 hours. I know the zumo charges from the incar charger as ive tried that!.

If i cant get an answer from your good selves i will have to wait until the bike goes into M and S for the 7500 service and ask them to have a look at it I suppose. Pity really thought it was going to be an easy job.

Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: Lonewolf on January 08, 2012, 06:06:10 PM
Sorry mate I can't help you with that one. Mines a pre 2010 model and it charges mine ok.  I've never charged the zumo by any other means since I bought it over a year ago.
Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: Rusty on January 08, 2012, 06:07:39 PM
Mark ...
The charging jack plug on the bike ( I have an 11 model so imagine its the same for you ) is not live .... that is why it's not working/charging. I found this out when plugging in my Optimate 4 ... nothing happened ... went to the dealer who told me that they are not wired up "live" for safety and transport reasons ... I have no workshop ability ( except for cleaning ! ) so I am sorry that I am unable to offer you any sensible advice  but they "wired it up / changed it over " whatever you like to call it at the next service and didn't charge me ... a very small job I think .... and now everything is fine. I just plug in my Optimate and all is well, I just plug in my heated vest and all is warm !
Hope this helps  ;D
Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: Andy on January 08, 2012, 06:24:38 PM
Have you turned on ignition (you must have done to start it...) ? Have you got a (cheap) multimeter to check voltage & polarity?  :) Fuse OK? (under seat) Fuse 5 fuse box 3?? 5 amp (tan colour?) OE socket still working?
Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: Kwikasfuki on January 08, 2012, 09:46:05 PM
Quote from: Rusty on January 08, 2012, 06:07:39 PM
The charging jack plug on the bike ( I have an 11 model so imagine its the same for you ) is not live .... that is why it's not working/charging. I found this out when plugging in my Optimate 4 ... nothing happened ... went to the dealer who told me that they are not wired up "live" for safety and transport reasons

Mmm, first I've heard of that!

Mark,

I would suggest you try what Andy has detailed above. Fuse/Multimeter would be the first on my list.
Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: mark on January 12, 2012, 09:17:19 PM
Well thanks all for the comments and suggestions. The sat nav is now fitted and working and the cause was an incorrectly fitted 5amp micro fuse.

Cheers again for you help

Mark
Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: viper on January 12, 2012, 10:29:34 PM
5amps is more than enough for a sat nav, mine uses a 1 amp fuse. My heated seat has a 5amp fuse
Title: Re: Question - Hard wire Garmin Zumo 500 to GTR
Post by: mark on January 14, 2012, 07:37:55 PM
Hi,

Under the seat is a 5amp micro fuse shown as accessories with a spare 5amp fuse next to it. This was the fuse that caused the problem rather than the inline sat nav fuse.