Kawasaki 1400 GTR

1400 GTR - All Models => 1400GTR Discussion => Topic started by: cpettifer on November 22, 2011, 10:35:32 AM

Title: Gear change smoothness
Post by: cpettifer on November 22, 2011, 10:35:32 AM
OK, second issue, second thread of the day! :)

How smooth does your GTR change gear? I have memories of my test ride bike being so super slick and super smooth that I wondered if I'd even changed gear. My bike is sometimes like this, but most of the time it seems to be a little bit clunky / sticky / notchy when changing gear.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Lonewolf on November 22, 2011, 10:56:41 AM
I have to agree with you here. However it is down to me and not the bike I feel. Mostly the bike is smooth when changing gear but if I'm lazy during the process almost as if I do it in slow motion then yes I can get it to occasionally clunk very quietly. If yours is a noisy clunk and very frequent then get it looked at.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: howard on November 22, 2011, 12:06:09 PM
Hi.    how many miles has your bike done?.My bike has done 8.5k now so it has had 3 oil changes using semi synthetic oil and the gear change has vastly improved from when it was new. Also the general fuel consumption has improved with more miles on the clock , often see over 50 mpg on the clock with normal riding.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Cartman on November 22, 2011, 01:37:09 PM
I would agree with Howard, miles really smooth it out, mine hit 5K this very morning and the whole bike just feels smoother over time.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Rusty on November 22, 2011, 02:12:24 PM
A little bit of "clunk" from N to 1st but otherwise sweet as a nut ... 11 reg with just under 10000 miles.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: cpettifer on November 22, 2011, 03:20:00 PM
About 2.5k miles so far (from memory). Perhaps I'll mention it when it gets 3.5 / 4k service and then see how it is afterwards.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: zedmeister on November 22, 2011, 09:51:46 PM
The oil is a factor regular changes are vital every 3 - 4 k, i have an 09 with 31,000k, when cold a slight clunk but warmed up its faultless.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Lonewolf on November 22, 2011, 10:02:16 PM
Yeah I agree with the above. I changed my oil within the last 100 miles or so and despite there being a nip in the air today the gear changes were smooth and quiet.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Mogster on November 23, 2011, 04:52:26 PM
Now if I could only get a Quick-shift things would be perfect!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: GTRTONY on November 23, 2011, 04:52:49 PM
I've had my GTR since beginning of May and have done 8.5K so far and have to report very smooth gear changes. Nothing to moan about with the bike so far... just love it
my previous bike was a 04 Yam FJR1300 which i also loved. went to look at buying an new one of those but go a lot more for my money with the GTR... wise move

Tony
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: mattye on November 23, 2011, 08:51:36 PM
My GTR has 3400miles on it and sometimes the gear changes seem smoother than others. I hope its just down to things still be run in and after the 7.5K service with fresh oil maybe it will be smoother.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: pembsgtr on November 23, 2011, 09:58:14 PM
A clunk from N to 1st then its click up with no use of clutch as smooth as you like 5000miles on the bike.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Kwikasfuki on November 23, 2011, 10:04:22 PM
Mine does the occasional clunk going from N but otherwise smooth. I do notice that when the gear oil gets old its not as smooth.

43.5k on the clock.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: cpettifer on November 24, 2011, 05:16:34 PM
Quote from: pembsgtr on November 23, 2011, 09:58:14 PM
A clunk from N to 1st then its click up with no use of clutch as smooth as you like 5000miles on the bike.

How do you do this?! I've never tried changing without using the clutch.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: mecki on November 24, 2011, 05:21:36 PM
Quote from: cpettifer on November 24, 2011, 05:16:34 PM
How do you do this?! I've never tried changing without using the clutch.
You just move yout foot up or down.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: pembsgtr on November 24, 2011, 05:39:19 PM
Get the revs at the right level with your left toe under the gear lever applying gentle upwards pressure, as you accelerate ease off the throttle and you should smoothly click a gear, then apply throttle and repeat as your speed increases until you hit overdrive  :)
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Lonewolf on November 24, 2011, 09:56:29 PM
Quote from: cpettifer on November 24, 2011, 05:16:34 PM
How do you do this?! I've never tried changing without using the clutch.

Why would you do this? Isnt the clutch there for a reason?  ???
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Mogster on November 25, 2011, 07:43:17 AM
Quote from: Lonewolf on November 24, 2011, 09:56:29 PM

Why would you do this? Isnt the clutch there for a reason?  ???

I've changed up this way for years, not between 1st and 2nd, but for the rest of the gears its a very smooth way of doing it.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Lonewolf on November 25, 2011, 08:43:59 PM
Quote from: Mogster on November 25, 2011, 07:43:17 AM
I've changed up this way for years, not between 1st and 2nd, but for the rest of the gears its a very smooth way of doing it.

Hmm, ok, however call me a traditionalist, I like the concept of the clutch.  ;)
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: 2kwacks on November 26, 2011, 11:27:58 AM
if I did not want a clutch, I would have bought the fjr1300 ;)
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: 100milesaway on November 26, 2011, 12:26:54 PM
Quote from: Lonewolf on November 24, 2011, 09:56:29 PM

Why would you do this? Isnt the clutch there for a reason?  ???
I find the clutch quite handy when I pull up at a road junction.  :)
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Mogster on November 26, 2011, 12:35:25 PM
Quote from: 2kwacks on November 26, 2011, 11:27:58 AM
if I did not want a clutch, I would have bought the fjr1300 ;)

Ah yes but seeing as they run on coal you would have to tow one of them little trailers, to keep it in..... it is coal isn't  it ??? I have heard some of the earlier ones still run on peat.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: 100milesaway on November 26, 2011, 12:51:17 PM
Quote from: Mogster on November 26, 2011, 12:35:25 PM
Ah yes but seeing as they run on coal you would have to tow one of them little trailers, to keep it in..... it is coal isn't  ??? I have heard some of the earlier ones still run on peat.
Tee hee ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: pembsgtr on November 26, 2011, 07:03:22 PM
try it and see you will be surprised how smooth the gear changes are from 2-6 without clutch 
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: 100milesaway on November 26, 2011, 08:16:21 PM
Quote from: Mogster on November 25, 2011, 07:43:17 AM
I've changed up this way for years, not between 1st and 2nd, but for the rest of the gears its a very smooth way of doing it.
Well said that man. :) Why use the clutch when you dont need to, that would be a bit like riding round with panniers on the bike with nothing in them. ??? ::)
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: 2kwacks on November 26, 2011, 10:35:17 PM
Quote from: 100milesaway on November 26, 2011, 08:16:21 PM
Well said that man. :) Why use the clutch when you dont need to, that would be a bit like riding round with panniers on the bike with nothing in them. ??? ::)
I will only use the panniers when touring so agree with part of that statement, but as far as the other is concearned. the saying "why have a dog and bark yourself" springs to mind ;)
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Boomer on November 28, 2011, 04:24:03 PM
"Why do clutchless changes when you have a clutch?"
"why have a dog and bark yourself?"

Because it's FUN that's why.
As for clutchless changes they are a LOT faster.
That's why most drag bikes and cars and may race bikes have ignition cut systems and speed-shifters.

If yer touring then yer right, smoother with the clutch.
Get a clutchless shift wrong though and ya can damage yer gearbox.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: 2kwacks on November 28, 2011, 04:35:33 PM
Get a clutchless shift wrong though and ya can damage yer gearbox

so It's a no brainer really, "me thinks" ;)
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: cpettifer on November 28, 2011, 05:26:24 PM
Quote from: Boomer on November 28, 2011, 04:24:03 PM
Get a clutchless shift wrong though and ya can damage yer gearbox.

I'll continue to change gear with the use of my clutch!
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Boomer on November 29, 2011, 12:56:38 PM
Each to their own.
So far as I'm concerned it's a motorcycle, not the crown jewels.
I abuse it and thrash it mercilessly.  ;D
I ride it lots, I don't clean it at all regularly, and it gets serviced according to the manual (oil & filter every 8k miles).

Others like to polish/pamper/worry about resale values/have sex with their motorcycles.
From my point of view you are all equally wierd!  ;)
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Mogster on November 29, 2011, 01:26:05 PM
Quote from: Boomer on November 29, 2011, 12:56:38 PM
have sex with their motorcycles.
From my point of view you are all equally wierd!  ;)

and whats wrong with spending ages in the Garage rubbing ones hands over the silky smooth curves of the object of ones desires... :-*

I can often be found having a threesome with voluptious kawasaki and the sensual sleeky Italian strumpet (my aprilia)  :o

Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: 2kwacks on November 29, 2011, 09:26:34 PM
Quote from: Boomer on November 29, 2011, 12:56:38 PM
Each to their own.
So far as I'm concerned it's a motorcycle, not the crown jewels.
I abuse it and thrash it mercilessly.  ;D
I ride it lots, I don't clean it at all regularly, and it gets serviced according to the manual (oil & filter every 8k miles).

Others like to polish/pamper/worry about resale values/have sex with their motorcycles.
From my point of view you are all equally wierd!  ;)
"have sex with their motorcycles" interesting! how dose that work then ;)
"oil & filter every 8k miles! I prefer to change my oil & filter every 12 months or 3,000 miles which ever come's first. the oil as a tough job of taking care of the clutch, all engine internals, gear box, and act's as a coolant, for the sake of £30.00 for the oil and filter I personally think it's a no brainer.
"I abuse it and thrash it mercilessly! there's 3 loves in my life "but only one get's trash and abused ;D
"I ride it lots! all my 3 loves get ridden well ;)
"I don't clean it at all regularly! anythink I ride must be clean, that includes my bike's ;D



Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Rusty on December 01, 2011, 09:28:23 PM
I love this forum !! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: zedmeister on December 01, 2011, 10:38:16 PM
Yep go to agree the bikes have got to be sparkling clean, i have not paid my hard earned to see it rust and crumble away, i respect my possesions, its just the way i like to live.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Kwikasfuki on December 01, 2011, 10:53:17 PM
Quote from: zedmeister on December 01, 2011, 10:38:16 PM
Yep go to agree the bikes have got to be sparkling clean, i have not paid my hard earned to see it rust and crumble away, i respect my possesions, its just the way i like to live.

My Suzuki V-Strom crumpled away after a few winters and ironically I cleaned that bike religiously. Just bad build quality on the Suzukis I reckon. I hear where you're coming from, but as long I have enough chemicals on the exterior to prevent damage and spend money on the internals where it really matters, I'm going to ride it more than I clean it. Oh, and occasionally thrash it  ;D
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Martin#30 on December 02, 2011, 12:39:18 PM
A bit of WD40 or 3in1 oil on the various linkages and pivots on the gear change pedal and shaft work wonders for the gear change on mine, though that *might* be related to the comment below ....

Quote from: Kwikasfuki on December 01, 2011, 10:53:17 PM
... but as long I have enough chemicals on the exterior to prevent damage and spend money on the internals where it really matters, I'm going to ride it more than I clean it.

Amen, expertly applied coatings of ACF50 and a protective layer of mud for me too. I will wash the salt off however.

Martin.

(http://www.trackandrace.com/Images/GTR_Dirty1.jpg)
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Rusty on December 02, 2011, 03:39:36 PM
That makes me want to VOMIT !!!!!!  >:( >:( :( :(
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Kwikasfuki on December 02, 2011, 03:52:59 PM
That is beautiful  ;D
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Rusty on December 02, 2011, 04:09:42 PM
YOU want to make me VOMIT !!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: 2kwacks on December 02, 2011, 07:48:05 PM
seeing that gtr 1400 in the best colour "magnesium grey" ;D like that, well at least I think it's magnesium :-\ will scar me for life.  "however" wish the wife was that dirty ;)
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: zedmeister on December 02, 2011, 07:50:45 PM
I clean the bike before i put it away every time i use it, i will only put it in the garage when it has cooled down. OCD OR WHAT!!!!!!
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: 2kwacks on December 02, 2011, 08:14:49 PM
Quote from: zedmeister on December 02, 2011, 07:50:45 PM
I clean the bike before i put it away every time i use it, i will only put it in the garage when it has cooled down. OCD OR WHAT!!!!!!
OCD OR WHAT!!!!!! I clean my bike's after every ride, "by our much" depends on what the weather as been like. if the weather as been particularly bad and have used the deluxe car shampoo "wash and wax" and the hose pipe. then out come's the "leaf blower" to make sure the bike is bone dry before put away. beat that :P
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: 2kwacks on December 02, 2011, 09:30:32 PM
Quote from: zedmeister on December 02, 2011, 07:50:45 PM
I clean the bike before i put it away every time i use it, i will only put it in the garage when it has cooled down. OCD OR WHAT!!!!!!
zedmeister! must admit I do like a nice atalian 8) but like there "bella senorita's" they tend to have a temper and get very >:( if not loved and treated right, but like your "bella" ducati I see you treat her well. P.S is the touring caravan yours? I had a 23ft lunar lexon se. but sold it 3 years ago, had some excellent time's and met some very nice friend's over the year's, which we still meet now again for a good "scran and bevy" don't think we will get another tourer thou! been there done that. but some of the best times we had where touring up and down the country :)
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: zedmeister on December 02, 2011, 10:58:35 PM
Yep wash n wax in winter, thorough polish in summer, and i must admit i have a compressor so i too blow the excess water off. I cant stand the settled water in the bolt heads it turns them grey after time. The caravan is a wreck we use it for weekends when we go to horse events, a top model like you had would be wrecked in a year, the front of the van you see in the picture is our motorhome i have a 2 bike trailer and we put both bikes on and travel to site then travel everywhere else on the bikes. The bikes are like a magnet on site all sorts of people come up to us and just start chatting like you say good times, wouldnt change it for the world.
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Mogster on December 03, 2011, 09:35:11 AM
yup i clean mine before putting em away, i must be an italian owner thing, cos the aprilia sulks if she not pampered.  8)
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: 2kwacks on December 03, 2011, 10:08:20 AM
Quote from: Mogster on December 03, 2011, 09:35:11 AM
yup i clean mine before putting em away, i must be an italian owner thing, cos the aprilia sulks if she not pampered.  8)
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you could be sleeping with the fishes or a horses head in your bed. if you don't treat her right ;D like all atalian bella senoritas they have loyal follower's ;)
Title: Re: Gear change smoothness
Post by: Kwikasfuki on December 08, 2011, 08:59:38 PM
This is how dirty my bike is presently. Will get a clean soonish