I have decided that the way forward is to get an Autocom. I went out on the bike yesterday and had the bluetooth helmet rigged up for music, it was ok, but not great and not as good as I remembered it. (I haven't used it in ages).
I rang these folk, http://www.chainspeed.co.uk/categories/Audio-%26-Communication/AUTOCOM/?gclid=CIalmYzFyqQCFVhc4woduBdbVQ very helpful but a fair distance to travel. NB, do you know any local and ideally very knowledgeable suppliers, i.e. someone who will sell me what I actually want as opposed to what they want to sell me, if that makes sense. Also someone who carries it all in stock would be helpful, I hate waiting for things.
Alternatively I may have to go to the above company but they are in South Wales. Still any excuse to go out on the bike. ;D
I want a rider only system, something that will connect to my Zumo, provide music and I want voice activated comms so that I can record commentary. I dont want much do I?
Have a look at the Sena SMH10. There's an excellent review at webbikeworld.com
For what its worth, I have it and its brilliant. Not sure about voice activated recording.
Less hassle to install as well. It lives on your helmet.
I meant to do a review on the Sena SMH10 as it works really well for me. It is deafening loud even at speed, bluetooth just works and easy is to use. I've decided to get some custom molded ear plugs (Biopact) which cut out just the wind noise so I'm hoping the Sena will be loud enough to filer through.
I've never heard of Biopact but I have just Googled it. Looks the business, big investment but with a life of approximately 5 years they are obviously the business.
+1 on the Sena. Pretty much does everything Autocom does with less hassle.
I've just bought an Autocom system today. A Super Pro Automatic. Fits like a glove in the tool tray under the seat, almost made to measure.
Looking forward to getting it connected up. Its an early Xmas pressie from the wife but she says I cant have it till after Christmas, bloody cheek :(
I meant to say, we have two local dealers near where I live, one at Keighley about 12 miles away, Colin Appleyards and one in Bradford just a few miles away, Allan Jeffries BMW dealership. Jeffries had the largest range of stock so I went there and spoke to one of their trained 'sales executives' ::). In fairness he was very helpful and knew the systems inside out.
However the following day when I went back to buy the unit the first chap had gone home, I spoke to another member of staff who gave me the impression because it was nearly time to shut the shop he wasn't that interested in selling anything else. He just oozed, (is that a real word :-\) negativity.
It didnt help matters I dont think when I mentioned something about me fitting the Autocom system to a more sophisticated bike than a BMW, the Kawasaki GTR 1400. You could have cut the atmosphere with a knife, absolutely no sense of humour at all. ;D ;D
I got the Autocom (at last) and spent some time yesterday connecting it. Its not finished yet, because I hit a few snags which I thought I'd share with you all in case you ever want to do something similiar.
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Firstly I'd already discovered that it would fit quite snugly in the plastic tool tray under the seat. I'll just put the tools in one of the pannier bags. I knew I would have to butcher the plastic tray a little bit to allow the the thick cables for the intercom and the main power lead to be fed out. Initially I chopped a little bit out of the tool tray whilst it was still in position, but then I discovered I would have to take the tray out completely to get to the accessory connectors by the tail light.
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Once I had chopped out for the cables I just checked that that the lid would fit comfortably, which it did. I'm just going to slot in a block of foam or something similiar to stop any sideways movement in the Autocom.
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Removing the tool tray was a pig of a job. The four fixing bolts are anti theft screws/bolts which cannot be turned easily anti-clockwise. Thankfully with patience and perseverance I did manage to get them out. Why a £10 plastic tray needs to be protected to such a degree I do not know. I'll be replacing them with stainless steel bolts which I will get from Bradford Nut & Bolt when they re-open after the Christmas holiday.
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Once you have the tool tray out you can remove everything between it and the rear tail light allowing you to get to the plastic boot which houses the required two connector blocks.
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Finally, I used a male & female bullet connector and pushed the connections together nice and firmly. There is lots of spare cable from the Autocom so I didnt need to leave the connectors exposed. I tucked everything back into the rubber boot and then tucked the boot back into the tail light section of the bike. Then I replaced the gubbins I had lifted out between the rubber boot and the tool tray. One thing worth mentioning here is that there is no need to disconnect anything which you remove, there is plenty of freedom to just move the bits to one side to get to the connectors in the rear of the bike.
Then I just dropped the tool tray back in place, with the Autocom inside. I had a play around with the placing of the intercom cables. They are not in their definate final place yet, I will see which routing option works best, but simply the shortest cable, (the riders) I have coming out on the near side of the bike from under the seat. I need to fix the mounting plate onto the side of the bike, it just glues on with industrial strength self adhesive 3M pads which are supplied.
When it is finally agreed where it will all go it will look something like this....
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I'll tuck as much of the red power cable as I can away out of sight. The spare (passengers) intercom lead is just coiled up and I see no reason why that cannot stay where it is, although I may as well finish that off properly I suppose and have that coming out of the off side of the seat and secured as the riders lead will be on the near side of the machine.
I'll update this thread as I go along. I need to connect a lead from the Autocom to the Zumo and I also need to connect up the camera system to the Autocom.
Can I ask the Autocom users what they actually use them for?
Stupid question perhaps, but I use an iPod and custom moulded speaker earphones. I would love to have some way of leaving the iPod permanently connected under the seat, with it charging when the ignition is on, and to somehow control it remotely. When I explained this to the Autocom guy at the NEC, he looked at me like I was barmy :D
So really just wondering what devices like Autocom are used for?
Thanks, and hope everyone had a great Xmas.
Martin.
Martin, I intend to use the Autocom for communicating with my Zumo 550 sat nav, a mobile phone, MP3 player and also the camera system I am installing. I will be able to do commentary through the voice activated mic which will record onto a hard drive along with the video footage the camera is recording. Additionally I will be able to speak to a pillion passenger through the intercom system in stereo and if I fit a two way radio I can talk bike to bike.
Quote from: MJJ_ZX6RR on December 27, 2010, 08:46:29 PM
Stupid question perhaps, but I use an iPod and custom moulded speaker earphones. I would love to have some way of leaving the iPod permanently connected under the seat, with it charging when the ignition is on, and to somehow control it remotely. When I explained this to the Autocom guy at the NEC, he looked at me like I was barmy :D
Why not get one of these two way remote control with pass through (http://www.abtech2.com/twowayRemote.htm)? That way you can have the remote on the bars and butcher the USB cable to connect it to the accessory lead under the seat at the rear? You'd have to switch from 12v to 5v but shouldn't be too hard?
I may opt for the same solution. I currently have an iPod video mounted to the stem via a Techmount. The problem with the video is that it has a hard drive that can skip at times. I may just buy another mp3 player with a remote and wire that up.
Of course, I may get my custom onboard computer working so all the above would be redundant ;D
EDIT: There's this one as well: http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/210/sfID2/324/productID/1821
I did a bit more work on the bike this morning. I managed to get the tank lifted so that I could feed three sets of cables under it. Sat nav, camera and a remote lead for recording onto the camera. Cable tied them all together to make them tidy and then just placed them down the left side of the tank.
I have the monitor which houses the memory card under the seat strapped to something, I just need to now place the intercom leads in their holders on the side of the bike. I'll put some pictures on tomorrow when I have some more time.
But, so far so good!
The installation which Autocom state in their hand book should typically take anything between 20 minutes and 3 hours is now into its third day, dont laugh.....I'm doing the best I can!! Why do companies have to close at Christmas, how the hell am I supposed to be able to get in touch with them when I encounter a problem???
As is usual with anything I put my hands on we get a problem...... ;D
I have the Autocom unit in my now empty tool box under the seat. The power supply is drawn from the rear accessory connectors. The Zumo 550 satnav is plugged into Aux 2 and works fine, spoken directions, music etc. All come through crystal clear with priority given to vocal instructions from the sat nav while the music fades out and then back again when the spoken directions end. Sucess!
The problem I appear to be having is with the camera set up. I have it connected via a cable designed for the Autocom rather than the Starcom, although it came with both. Starcom & Autocom now one and the same so no compatability issues. The cable is like a three way cable, it plugs into Aux 3 which is where Autocom told me to plug it, one of the other ends goes into AV in, on the display/recording unit and the third end connects upto the jack plug connector coming from the camera itself.
I can see and record video footage through the camera onto a memory card, and it will record audio onto the same memory card as part and parcel of the video footage. The problem I am experiencing is the playback volume level is extremely low, even with the volume turned up fully on the computer when I am reviewing the footage it is far too low. I am using the correct microphone on the unit, the camera microphone rather than the main unit which uses the internal DVR mic, so I do not know where I am going wrong.
The VOX system works just fine and I can hear my voice very clearly. I have adjusted the Rider Master Volume Control so my voice is at a comfortable level in my earphones.
Is there something I am doing wrong that anyone can think of?
I am basically stumped ::)
Quote from: Lonewolf on January 03, 2011, 06:55:06 PMI am using the correct microphone on the unit, the camera microphone rather than the main unit which uses the internal DVR mic, so I do not know where I am going wrong.
A bit confused - you say you're using the camera microphone. Is that not incorrect as I imagine that will be too far away to pick up your voice?
Quote from: Norman Bates on January 04, 2011, 02:01:11 AM
Quote from: Lonewolf on January 03, 2011, 06:55:06 PMI am using the correct microphone on the unit, the camera microphone rather than the main unit which uses the internal DVR mic, so I do not know where I am going wrong.
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A bit confused - you say you're using the camera microphone. Is that not incorrect as I imagine that will be too far away to pick up your voice?
NB, yeah, I have to agree with you it does sound wrong but the handbook clarifies it by saying;
Main Unit = sound from internal DVR MIC. (bearing in mind this is tucked away under the seat.
Camera = sound from Starcom 1 intercom, (but in my case Autocom).
I'll give Autocom a ring later this morning.
:P Doh!! ::)
Apparantly if you want to hear louder audio......you have to turn the volume up!!
Now hang on a second before you start having a go at me. I spoke to a guy called Paul at Autocom this morning and even he didnt know how to fix the lack of sound, he put me onto Alan another employee at Autocom who knows more about the camera system than Paul and even Alan couldn't come up with an answer other than you need to turn the volume up, but regrettably he didnt know how to do it. ;D
Eventually Alan called me back and told me what to do but you get no visual representation on the monitor that you are turning up the volume for example as you would with a television, etc, i.e. a scroll bar or similiar on the screen.
The matter is now thankfully sorted, I suggested that they add something to the instructions to explain this problem which they said they would.
Paul at Autocom did suggest that I wire the negative cable from the Autocom direct to the battery which I have done. This significantly reduces the possibility of any electrical interference apparantly.
I've got to say it may have taken me a while to get it all sorted but I have enjoyed tinkering with the bike, taking things off, seeing where everything goes etc. On top of that I think it is quite a tidy installation of the Autocom considering the lack of space available under the seat of the GTR.
Glad to hear you got it sorted. I'll have to take a look at your Autocom and see if its something I want on my bike.
Couldn't have done it without my new found knowledge on bike mecahnics ;D
I'm going to find somewhere suitable now on the rear of the bike where I can put the Go Pro.
I've been experimenting this afternoon with some video tricks etc. I have discovered that I can use the audio overlay from one camera, i.e. the front one which will be wired to the autocom and drop that audio onto footage from the rear camera which is a stand alone system, i.e. not hooked upto anything.
By doing this I can create commentary using the new front camera and then transfer this into footage showing rear views, overtakes etc. If I didnt do this, everytime I showed rear footage there would be deathly silence followed by speach again when I reverted back to the front camera. This way, in theory it should be a smooth transition from camera to camera with audio to match. (In theory) ;D
lonewolf what model did you get? we're planning on a euro tour this year and it wud be udeful as my mates are all on autocom. like the idea that you can record and annotate as you ride. what the capacity of the storage on the video recorder and at waht resolution
Quote from: da_boom on January 06, 2011, 12:06:31 AM
lonewolf what model did you get? we're planning on a euro tour this year and it wud be udeful as my mates are all on autocom. like the idea that you can record and annotate as you ride. what the capacity of the storage on the video recorder and at waht resolution
The autocom I bought was a SuperPro Automatic. It comes with everything you need for rider and pillion which will save you buying a lesser model and then buying the required accessories separately. There's not much you cant hook up to it.
As far as the camera is concerned the Bike Cam 2 will record at 480 which is fine because ultimately its the quality of the lens which will determine the quality of the footage. The unit will support upto a 32gb SD card and the book states approximately 880 minutes at 480 resolution.
I also have a HD GoPro which will record at 1080 in HD and the clarity of that has to be seen to be believed. That will also support a 32GB card.
The installation continues..
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This was how I intended to place the system, but due to being unable to resolve an annoying issue I have had to switch things around. Because I had the Autocom on top of the ECU I could hear a very faint buzz from one of the speakers which is a definate no, no. The sound should be completely clean. I tried doing what Autocom suggested, which was to wire the negative direct to the battery where it would get a better earth but that made no significant difference. I even tried introducing an insulator, some high density foam which again Autocom suggested but it didnt clear the interference, although there was a very slight improvement.
So what I have done is reconnected both power leads to the rear accessory connectors, and then switched the Autocom around with the camera recorder. The Autocom now sits on the KIPASS ECU and the camera gubbins on the main ECU.
Two benefits I have found so far with this. Firstly the seat fits better due to the underside shape of the seat directly over the top of the Autocom, almost made to measure and there is no background interference now whatsoever.
This is the finished product, at last!!
I've swapped the units round from the previous post above.
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All concealed nicely under the seat.
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Definately the best way to fit this particular Autocom system due to its size. The seat fits fine now as well.
Excellent job, and thanks for sharing. You can get a surprising amount under the seat by the looks of it. I've only had the seat off once, briefly, and thought there was no room for anything at all.
Martin.
Martin, trust me it was a pain to do in one respect, but on the other hand at this time of the year when you cannot always get out to ride as often as you would like I do like to have a tinker with the bike. In a strangely bizarre way its even therapeutic and its nice to know how to do some basic maintenance on the GTR. ;D
The final phase of the autocom and bike cam fitting was to mount the camera and record switch.
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Quite discreet from a distance....
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Just dusted off my Autocom Active 7 smart , served me well on the last FJR ...just not the best electrical knowledge in the world. Tell me please have I got this right. The Red lead from my Autocom goes into the Black/grey live accessory or is it Black into Black yellow neg...?
Sure on FJR it was Red to Red etc...had to put live onto brake light live wire above brake pedal as any where else used to result in interference....
Thanks Alan
I made myself a note when I wired mine up just to jog my memory in the future.
From the Autocom you have a red = positive.
From the Autocom you have a red & black = negative.
The GTR's black & yellow lead is negative and the GTR's black is positive.
So it would be Autocom red to GTR's black.
I certainly aint no electrician, but thats how I've done mine and it works fine.
Just nice to make double sure..Did send the Shematic Diagram from the Workshop Adobe Manual to my youngest who is a Uni in Southampton doing electronics & engineering....Good lad , gave me real insight into understanding the Diagrams.
Thanks once more Alan
Well checked as much as I can , but seems there is no power going to my accessory leads. Checked fuse etc , all ok . The front fag lighter works & think there all on the same wiring. Bit of a mystery. Any clues any one ?
Which accessory leads have you tried, front or back?
Back...they might not be the accessory leads. There with all those other dead end connectors. Think the ones I want may be tucked up under the Rear light cowling..any thoughts.
Ah yes I know what you have done. The leads you have tried are NOT accessory connectors they are if my memory serves me correctly diagnostic leads for the ABS or something.
What you need to do is remove the tool box and lift it out. Then lift out the ECU at the back of the bike, it drops onto two plastic flanges, you will see what I mean as you carefully lift it out. You dont need to unplug anything from the ECU. There is a black rubber boot tucked behind the ECU almost in the rear light section. Inside there are the two male and female accessory connector leads.
On page one of this thread, the fourth photograph are the leads you have tried I believe. The fifth photograph is a picture of the actual accessory leads which I have partially pulled out of the boot. I connected the leads up and then put the connection back inside the boot just to offer some extra protection.
Simples.
Just seen you post Lownwolf...I sussed it in end..The accessory leads are well tucked away as I realized after studying the Wiring Diagrams again & see those leads by the Diagnostic leads are not the ones I wanted Durrrrr!!!!!
All sorted now. thanks.
LW, we need to hook up sometime so I can see your install, as well as benefits. My sena speaker has blown and although its under warranty, I'm thinking of getting it replaced and selling it. The Autocom is on my list, especially as they have a new model out next month.
Theirs a black flange that you can unbolt , it slides out from under the rear small cowling above the Brake light. That lifts off & all is revealed. You can unbolt the seat lock catch & makes it even easier.
That's alternative to Lonewolves method. Pends weather your a Nut & bolt man or a Sparky.... ;D
NB, I dont have any weekends off until the end of February. If you like I can catch up with you then and you can have a gander at the Autocom set up.
An update on the Autocom and camera installation. Some of it good and some of it bad.
Ok, I went upto the Lakes the other week and thought that finally I would get an opportunity to test everything out. The Autocom system worked great, as I hoped it would. Classic Soul & Motown music pumped into my ears there and back with crystal clear verbal intructions from the sat nav when needed. So no problems there.
On the other hand however I tested the camera quality out in a reallife situation and it was extremely poor. I'd taken a HD system off the bike in favour of the new camera set up and obviously I didnt expect HD quality, but I did expect somthing half decent. Unfortunately the results were very disappointing. The only aspect of the new camera set up which was any good was the ability to record voice comms through the Autocom set up. Vocals were of the quality I had expected but the entire system was let down by the quality of the video recordings even on the highest recording resolutions.
Ok, so I thought about options, I wanted to retain the ability to record comms, as that was one reason why I bought an Autocom. Despite having had the camera system for almost two months the manufacturers agreed to take it back and provide a full refund after I explained what the problem was. I made some enquiries and discovered that I could link up a digital dictaphone to the Autocom and link the Autocom and dictaphone with a mic lead from Autocom with a built in noise reduction sensor. Hey presto, the system works better than ever. I can lift the MP3 recording off the dictaphone and drop it straight into the video editing software and the quality is superb. The dictaphone was £60 approx, compared with the £250 I paid for the substandard camera. I'm going to put the HD camera back on and then use the two media formats independently of each other. All this means is that it will take an extra five minutes or so at the editing stage.
whoosh :o straight over my head lol but sounds good
Its really quite simple... ;D
I wish Lonewolf was in Oxford, I'd pay him to install my Autocom and radio system when i get my new bike on Sep 1st.
Alan
Quote from: BigAlan on August 01, 2011, 08:59:32 PM
I wish Lonewolf was in Oxford, I'd pay him to install my Autocom and radio system when i get my new bike on Sep 1st.
Alan
Thats very kind of you to say that. I have a different model of Autocom now, I went for the Logic 1 which is a terrific unit. If you like I'll take some photos of the installation of that and show you how I hooked it up.
This is the set up I have now, I am happier with this Logc 1 than I was with the Super Pro.
Everything fits snugly away.
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I had to drill a few holes in the plastic tool tray but they are only about £15 to replace.
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Fits perfectly. I swopped the Super Pro because I used to get minor interference in one ear from the system when I had it situated on top of the ECU and there was nowhere else I could find for it to go. This is obviously still on the ECU but I get no interference with this model.
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Excellent photo's, i suspect the first weekend i have the bike shall be spent under the seat installing my system, after riding it of course.
Thanks
Alan
Which Autocom system do you have?
I think its the Autocom active rider 200, but its been on two bikes so far and a little scruffy, i shall check when i get home as its in a nice box on the bench.
It was a bit of a squeeze under the seat on the Sprint ST what with the up your backside exhaust but once in it stayed in, i also had my radio in the topbox stuck on with Velcro, nice and high.
Alan
Its actually an Active plus, roll on Sep 1st.
Alan
Ive used Autocom for years. I cant comment on the other systems. But I have always found Autocom very good . There customer service is second to none. I think you will find Autocom are the systems they use in Formular One even...
Quote from: Ziderman on August 12, 2011, 08:49:40 AM
Ive used Autocom for years. I cant comment on the other systems. But I have always found Autocom very good . There customer service is second to none. I think you will find Autocom are the systems they use in Formular One even...
Not quite right Ziderman.
F1 use this: Riedel Communications
Read more about this here: http://www.thepaddockmagazine.com/articles/data/behind-the-scenes-talent-riedel-communications-at-formula-1
And Ridel's website: http://www.riedel.net/
;D
Oh so many clever feckers....they used to & I am sure some still do...!
Quote from: Ziderman on August 12, 2011, 10:40:01 AM
Oh so many clever feckers....they used to & I am sure some still do...!
They used to... would that be before 1993? ;)
"Riedel Communications' involvement in Formula 1 began in 1993. Now, 17 years later, Riedel is responsible for the communications infrastructure at all races worldwide, and equips nearly all Formula 1 racing teams, as well as the Formula 1 organisation and the FIA. Various racing circuits also feature fixed communications systems installed and maintained by Riedel Communications, such as the highly-acclaimed Yas Marina Circuit in Abu Dhabi"
8)
Your obviously the Expert then....zzzzzzz. I am only going by what Autocom & others have told me. I'm no fool & would not make it up for the hell of it...!
And Autocom is by far the best product out there...just like Bridgestone Tyres....so just all you lot accept I am right..... >:(
A question, if i put my Autocom under the seat is there spare wires i can connect both the autocom and radio to? if so what colours do i need to tap into?
Thanks
Alan
14 days and counting.
QuoteA question, if i put my Autocom under the seat is there spare wires i can connect both the autocom and radio to? if so what colours do i need to tap into?
I cant recall the colours now...some one did put post on here showing the wires. There are two lots of Aux wires , the ones you want for the Autocom are actually buried under the rear cowling behind the seat beside tail lights. They can take a bit of teasing out if I remember rightly. The other set are down some where in front L side fairing I believe. They I guess you could use for the Radio...
Right that gives me a start, i will try to get the Radio in the top box as per my last two bikes with Velcor sticking it to the side, i never take the topbox off and feed it from an ignition live source, i used the tail light feed on the Sprint.
As for the Autocom i could do with another igniton feed and the front one may be possible to extend rearwards a little.
I can see me spending the second weekend i have this bike in the garage "sorting" stuff, the first weekend i am riding it to Wales.
Alan
You will be able to place both the Autocom and your radio under the seat. Both can then be extremely easily wired up to the spare accessory leads to the rear of the bike. You do not need to splice into any cables. If you can hang fire 24 hrs I'll find the instructions and point you in the right direction. I'm off to work in an hour or so, so can't do it now.
Thanks very much, the more info i have the better prepared.
We have a radio ham here who says "to high is not high enough" when it comes to the radio, hense it has been in the top box on the last two bikes.
Alan
BigAlan, here you go. If you have a look on this thread at page 1 you will see some photos of a previous installation I did. The fifth photo shows the accessory cables you will use. Do not confuse these with the ones which are visible just in front of them, they are diagnostic connecters for the ABS system. The ones you need are tucked away in the rubber boot at the rear most part of the bike. You can only get to this rubber boot by removing the tool tray and then carefully removing things to one side. There is no need at all to unplug any of the connectors, there is enough play in the cables to just move it all to one side. Once you have the rubber boot in sight, carefully prise it out, fish around and you will find two connectors with male and female bullet connectors. These are your accessory connectors.
On the GTR the accessory connectors are coloured, Black + Yellow = Negative Black = Positive
On the Autocom, Red = Positive Red + Black = Negative.
Simply use bullet connectors or something similiar, I take it your radio will plug into the autocom and will be powered from that, however if it needs a direct power source then there is no detriment to wiring the radio and autocom both into the rear connectors.
For future reference there are identical concealed accessory leads on the GTR under the front left fairing again in a black rubber boot. Additionally you have the cigarette lighter power source to the front right of the GTR.
Hope that is of some help, if not feel free to ask away.
Excellent information, thanks very much.
Alan
Prob a posting to Lonewolf, I can see how the Autocom fits but sod that trying to get the tool tray out, i shall make a connection from elsewhere, but hos do you get the PTT button up to the Handlebar?
I have tried all ways but cant seem to get a route there without me busting something on the fairing?
Its almost give up time and sell the Autocom and simply remain quiet.
Alan
All amateurs, ;D just bear with me while I get myself home and I'll have a look how I fitted it on mine, I can't remember off the top of my head but it's simple.
Alan, apologies for the very late reply. I had a quick look at my set up today. I have simply fed the cables from the PTT on the left side of the bike back towards the autocom. I have lots of spare cable and from memory I just taped it to the side of the body on the rubber but in the groove created at the edge of the tank. Have a look at the photo. This is an old photo and before you start to panic you DO NOT have to remove this much faring to place the cables, I believe I had all this fairing off as I was changing the coolant plus just generally tinkering about. This photo does not show the PTT fitted but hopefully will show you how easy it is to situate the cabling. I secured the cables to the black rubber surface with some strong adhesive tape and then once the fairing is replaced everything is tidied up. Simples.
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/Jaffa_Cake101/Fingers/100_1488.jpg)
With the fairing removed it looks an easy job, removing the fairing looks like a right hassle, i once on a Sprint tried to remove a fairing and "tugged" gently as what i thought was a clip and ripped the damm thing in half, hense my reluctance to remove this beast.
I guess before removing the middle bit of the fairing i have to remove completely the cubby box and that includes the bolt right at the bottom of it?
And it say the fairing has "tags" to secure it, i dont want to break it when its this new so maybe i ought to ask the dealer how it comes off on monday when its in for its forst service.
Cars i can muck about with at my leasure, bikes i am not so confident.
Oh, are the rear spare connectors always live or are they dead when the ignition is off? no point in me wiring the autocom to them if there always on.
Thanks
Alan
Alan, the power to the rear connectors is dead when the ignition is off, just as the front ones are. Even the cig lighter accessory to the front right of the bike is dead without the ignition on.
The fairings do have tags to link them all together but the fairing is incredibly easy to remove. I'm not sure if you will have to remove the cubby box as my bike is not as new as yours and there may be a slight difference in the fixings. All in all a very simple procedure in any case.
If you are not confident though perhaps best to leave it alone and let someone else fit it. Or you could ride upto Bradford and I'll do it for you. ;D
Just had a long test of the Interphone TRIBE... fanatic fantastic... just pair with your bluetooth helmet (and everything else you might want to) - and then you go! On "high power" we could speak up to 6-7km in distance on the german autobahn... simply good! :-)
Powerconsump. is for 9-10 hours with lots of talking....
We was 4 guys in this test....
Quote from: Lonewolf on September 15, 2011, 02:11:30 PM
Alan, the power to the rear connectors is dead when the ignition is off, just as the front ones are. Even the cig lighter accessory to the front right of the bike is dead without the ignition on.
The fairings do have tags to link them all together but the fairing is incredibly easy to remove. I'm not sure if you will have to remove the cubby box as my bike is not as new as yours and there may be a slight difference in the fixings. All in all a very simple procedure in any case.
If you are not confident though perhaps best to leave it alone and let someone else fit it. Or you could ride upto Bradford and I'll do it for you. ;D
I shall have a go, but i will be in Ilkley end of May next year so watch out, you may be spannering.
Alan
Ilkley, (very posh) ;D
End of May next year eh...nothing like planning ahead.
Progress so far, rear toolbox holder out, anti-theft screws took five minutes to remove, HA! then Ecu lifted out ahd hey presto the two magic wires i have been looking for.
Time for coffee and then back to the job.
The help here is amazing.
Alan
Just make sure its the accessory wires you've found
Yes, checked with lonewolf,s colours and the come on and go off with the ignition.
Alan
Now for the fairing part, i hate going into the unknown.
Alan
Lonewolf, looked like an excellent write up unfortunately all the pictures have gone, was these part of the photobucket policy change?
The problem with the fixed intercoms vs the bluetooth, if that if you save a couple of bikes then it is not easily transferable between the two.
Quote from: Redzed on October 18, 2019, 08:13:59 AM
Lonewolf, looked like an excellent write up unfortunately all the pictures have gone, was these part of the photobucket policy change?
The problem with the fixed intercoms vs the bluetooth, if that if you save a couple of bikes then it is not easily transferable between the two.
Bloody hell, this is an old thread! :mfr_lol: Yes I deleted all the photos due to Photobucket changing their policy previously. Ive only ever had one bike at a time, so wasn't a problem for me.
photobucket really screwed up lots of Forums. I can understand that they wanted to introduce a charge, but I think £300 a year for a single user was crazy, £5-10 would have been OK. Anyway too late now and I think most of the photobucket users have departed.
Quote from: Redzed on October 18, 2019, 08:38:08 AM
photobucket really screwed up lots of Forums. I can understand that they wanted to introduce a charge, but I think £300 a year for a single user was crazy, £5-10 would have been OK. Anyway too late now and I think most of the photobucket users have departed.
I use Smugmug now for my business website which also has the ability to host photos to forums from within it and act as an archive system for my photos and videos. Customer service is rapid despite it being in America and it doesn't cost me £300 per year! :mfr_lol:
Quote from: Lonewolf on October 18, 2019, 08:31:26 AM
Bloody hell, this is an old thread! :mfr_lol: Yes I deleted all the photos due to Photobucket changing their policy previously. Ive only ever had one bike at a time, so wasn't a problem for me.
Do you still have the photo's of the Autocom install ?
Quote from: GLA55Y on December 20, 2019, 08:00:50 PM
Do you still have the photo's of the Autocom install ?
I can have a look, but don't hold your breath. I'll have a look for you in some back up files on Saturday. I certainly don't have anything that old on my Mac.
I can't find the photos, so I must have completely deleted them, apologies.
I don't have any pics of the fitting on my GTR and I don't have the bike anymore but I can sort of remember how it went if anybody wants to know.
I've fitted the Autocom to two bikes before, ST1100 and R1100RT with no issues. I just had a look under the seat of the GTR and thought where the **** would the unit fit?
After reading through the thread I see that it will fit into the tool kit box. I was just interested to see how others have routed cables etc but no problems, I can suss it out.
Thanks for looking.
I removed the tamper proof screws in the tool box and removed it, I remember cutting the sides out in small U shapes to route the wires so the lid went back on as it should.
I remember it being a neat install down the left side with the lead to the helmet coming out the right side.
Al