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Started by Therenback, July 15, 2011, 09:34:59 PM

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Winston Smith

Four is fun.  Six is sex.

I Dream of a World where Chickens can Cross the Road without having their Motives Questioned

GTRTONY

Quote from: Therenback on July 17, 2011, 05:35:23 PM
Visit www.bikesafe.co.uk u can have benefit of police biker from your local force assessing your riding for a day. Course is well worth £50 an gives you plenty to work on as you get written review and guidance at end of day

i get involved with Bikesafe workshops a lot in my area (I am a senior observer with the IAM) and have to say that the workshops are well worth the money. it is however only a half day of riding where only a couple of faults can be looked at. training is and has to be an ongoing event and i would therefore urge people to look at one of the schemes offered by either IAM or ROSPA.
once you have passed the advanced test there is still a lot that can be achieved and your continued support and further training to become an observer yourself is always welcome.
getting there........

routemaster

I have to agree that advanced rider training does improve a riders safety by reducing the risk of accidents but it doesn't totally eliminate the risk of accidents which I found out to my cost 5 years ago :o :'( :-[

The other thing with all the advanced training I have done over the years is that it has significantly improved my enjoyment of motorcycling  :) :) :) :) :)

Kind regards

Steven
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Lonewolf

Quote from: Winston Smith on July 17, 2011, 08:34:36 PM
Your video is private Steve!

Winston, I've changed it. You should be able to view it now.


Winston Smith

BikeSafe's strapline is 'Bridging the Gap'.  It's intended as a taster and encouragement to take advanced training through RoSPA/RoADAR, IAM, ERS or other scheme.

It isn't training, it is an assesment with constructive feedback, as stated written format which can be taken to an advanced group and can help form the basis of your advanced training.

Depends where in the country you live as to how much it costs and what bang you get for your buck, although the same curriculum is covered.

In out area the cost is only £35 and there is a £25 voucher towards further training awarded at the end which can be paid in to RoSPA/IAM/ERS
Four is fun.  Six is sex.

I Dream of a World where Chickens can Cross the Road without having their Motives Questioned

routemaster

Years ago I did a "Bike Safe" weekend with the Avon and Somerset Police which was absolutely brilliant - It cost just over £100 which included 2 nights accommodation, food and spending a great weekend riding with the Police
There are only solutions

Therenback

#21
In this part of world the course IS a COMPLETE DAY as stated before and an ASSESMENT !!. A biker working on elements of
Roadcraft each time he (she) rides may benefit from experience shared an work from hints given to improve, not sure where "perfection" comes from ?? Just tryin to learn. Those of us working 80hr wks may not have time for ongoing training wit senior observers but we do our best :-)

patrick

Quote from: Lonewolf on July 17, 2011, 06:04:42 PM
Here's one of my short clips of what could have been a bad day, I was wearing high viz bib, lights of course were on, on the GTR. I was travelling under the National Speed Limit. I should have been visible to the HGV driver and I presume I was, but rather than wait until I'd passed, out they came leaving me with the questions, "Has he seen me?" "Where's he going?"

Near Miss Video


Good video and once the truck was moving your reaction was totally the right one - reduce speed and dont assume he knew you were there.

P

Boomer

I have 2 things I ALWAYS keep in mind when riding or driving;

1- They are all TRYING to kill me. (it's not paranoia!)
2- If I have an accident, it's MY fault, regardless of whether someone else caused it.

In my last accident in 2007 I approached a roundabout (3 lanes) and saw a Picasso in the left lane signalling left.
I took the middle lane as I was going straight over.
The Picasso pulled away and didn't turn left (still signalling left).
I rode alongside her assuming (yup, there is the mistake) that she was going to go straight on.
She drove around the outside of the roundabout as she wanted to turn right and cut right across in front of me.
I left a nice GTR1000+Boomer sized dent in her right side and a nice helmet shaped dent in her roof and after bouncing off her, down I went.
A very nice white van man blocked the roundabout so I wouldn't get run over and helped me get out from under the bike.
Plenty of busted plastic, and I had a lot of neck pain and a seriously sore left arm and knee. (wear your protective gear!)
Insurance decided it was 100% her fault (I had 2 witnesses) but I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE.  >:(
I obeyed all the rules of the road but I was the one who got hurt.
George "Boomer" Garratt
Wickford, UK
http://www.gtr1000.com

Martin#30

Quote from: patrick on July 17, 2011, 12:11:29 PMI then suggested to him that when he saw the truck start to come out in front of him he could have reduced his speed, hung back, watied till the truck was on the main road and then used his performance to  safely over take.

His reply, as he stomped away was some thing on the lines of "...F*****g  advanced know-alls!.."


Quote from: Boomer on July 18, 2011, 10:05:09 AMInsurance decided it was 100% her fault (I had 2 witnesses) but I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE.  >:(
I obeyed all the rules of the road but I was the one who got hurt.

Amen to both of these comments.

The one piece of advice I recall so clearly from my IAM training was "Being in the right does not make up for being in hospital".

Martin.
65,000 miles now. Loving this bike.