Why are people moving to the dark side?

[PRD]

Both and not just one bike!

[Charlie747]

  totally agreed, we're all diffrent and have differing likes and dislikes       

That's why I'm looking at one of these to add to thee fleet

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LAfi08WEn8M

[nightrider]

  I have 2 ktm's they are brilliant bikes 

[PRD]

Remember the first rule Charlie. They are chain drive!

[pross]

That's why I'm looking at one of these to add to thee fleet

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LAfi08WEn8M

Very nice bro I wish I was rich. How about we have a joint bike insurance  policy 

[Rusty]

Why would you buy a bike with a chain ? 

[Charlie747]

Very nice bro I wish I was rich. How about we have a joint bike insurance  policy 

No prob Bro 

I have 2 ktm's they are brilliant bikes 

I'm sorely tempted.............to the point that a road test may be the forbidden fruit 

Why would you buy a bike with a chain ? 

To remind me why I have 2 x shaft driven bikes.........one of which has the most superbly engineered anti squat and rise rear end of any shaft bike on the market 👌😎

[PRD]

No prob Bro 

I'm sorely tempted.............to the point that a road test may be the forbidden fruit 

To remind me why I have 2 x shaft driven bikes.........one of which has the most superbly engineered anti squat and rise rear end of any shaft bike on the market 👌😎

which one is that?

[Charlie747]

Well it ain't the European one

[Lonewolf]

Charlie you already have three bikes and you very rarely get to ride the two that are road ready! Four is just being plain greedy

[PRD]

Charlie you already have three bikes and you very rarely get to ride the two that are road ready! Four is just being plain greedy

i think you will find he will be doing a lot of riding soon!!

[Lonewolf]

Yes I know and what better way to tour Germany than on the finest touring bike ever developed. 

[PRD]

But then why are the panniers smaller than Gtr? Not great for the greatest touring bike allegedly! Still if it goes wrong will be nearer factory!

[ray1151]

Having just committed I didn't buy a bee emm as the build quality is very poor now and getting worse and I'm sure a lot of people have noticed in Europe almost every second bike is a bee emm.
Coming from a guzzi (also not great build quality!) I wanted something a little bit different. Still got my SV1000N Suzuki too, not got the brute power of the kwack but a lot of fun.

[Lonewolf]

But then why are the panniers smaller than Gtr? Not great for the greatest touring bike allegedly! Still if it goes wrong will be nearer factory!

Pete, I've only just seen this and what the panniers lacked in size, it's possible the K16 top box made up for. I could never afford a top box, unlike our Charlie Boy who is a very wealthy man. I simply used a BMW small soft bag and it stored more than enough and a tenth of the price of the box.
The panniers were a disappointing size, even more so when you use the pannier bags which were a staggering £200 for the pair!