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Started by badaboum, February 23, 2016, 10:24:00 AM

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badaboum

Guys,

My 2008 model and 44 000Km is now giving signs of weakness of both TPMS. Giving its 8 years, I beleive this is a pretty good lasting.

I have been hesitating between both solutions : changing the battery and changing the sensor...

----) Changing the sensor.

It seems that the sensor have evolved from the 2008 till the newest models:

PN of the 2008 sensor : 21176-0125     @ 180 USD
PN of the 2015 sensor : 21176-0748     @  190 USD

Question 1: What is the difference between those 2 models? Is the 2015 model retrofitable on my 2008 model?

Question 2 : Do we have to go to the dealer to have the new sensor recognized by the bike?

190 USD for something that last 8 years is pretty ''ok'' for me... Unless I have to add 200 USD for Kawa man hours..

----) Changing the battery.

Question 3 : Any feedback after several miles of those who made the change?

Question 4: What is the best solution for the battery? One that are soldereddirectly, or one that are pre soldered?

Question 5 : Any ebay link to good right angled valves?

Thanks for your help guys

Cheers from France
French 2008 GTR 1400
-> Motax back wheel cover
-> Phillips H4 Xenon light
-> 2 motorcycles speakers+amplifier+remote
-> Integrated Hugel GPS+MP3 player in the ''glove box''
-> Kawasaki Top Case
-> Cee Baleys Screen
-> Akrapovich Silencer

virginiajim

1.  They are physically different in the way that they are put together.  The new sensor will work on any bike year.  The new sensor does not have a way to replace the battery.
2.  Unless you have their programming tool, you have to go to a dealer if you replace the sensor.
3.  Can't help you there, changed the batteries in mine and so far so good on my classic sensors.
4.  I used the batteries with the tabs already on.  If you solder directly to the battery you may damage it.
5.  You can retrofit a 90 degree stem to a classic sensor but not to it's replacement.  You can buy a screw on 90 degree stem but we've seen some issues with that breaking off the stub.   Those        attachments are for airing the tire up and then they need to be removed.  As far as the classic sensor goes.  I bought mine from Murphs in the US but he doesn't carry them anymore.  I believe that they were used on Goldwings at first.  I'd give you a part number but I don't have one.
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badaboum

Hey

Thanks for the feedback

I guess I am stuck in removing myself the wheel and getting the sensor out...

Waiting for the PN of the angled valve.

Cheers
French 2008 GTR 1400
-> Motax back wheel cover
-> Phillips H4 Xenon light
-> 2 motorcycles speakers+amplifier+remote
-> Integrated Hugel GPS+MP3 player in the ''glove box''
-> Kawasaki Top Case
-> Cee Baleys Screen
-> Akrapovich Silencer

GTRpilot

My mate had a 90' stem and left it on the bike after doing his tyre pressures prior to a ride out. We had just gone through a fast road section and were rolling off on the approach to a roundabout (Thankfully)  :sweatdrop: when he had an instantaneous complete deflation of his back tyre, the one with the stem fitted. On inspection the stem had ripped off the stub and valve of the tyre. Had it happened minutes earlier at speed I'm not sure he would have survived as we were travelling through a tree lined area of road at speed. As it was, slowing down through 30mph to 15mph he managed to control the bike and bring it to a safe stop on the approach to the roundabout.
That is my only experience of seeing them fitted.
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virginiajim

#4
The 90 degree stem I have is integral to the sensor, not an add-on as such and is very lightweight.  The tire has been balanced with the 90 degree stem.  No one should ride a bike with a 90 degree stem extension on the wheel.  It is dangerous and puts undo load on the stem itself.
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badaboum

Indeed if I take the tyre of to do the replacement myselft I'll have the wheel balanced again.

Virginiajim, do you have a link where you got your 90° stem?

Besides, any of you can share his link on where he bought the battery?

Cheers from Paris
French 2008 GTR 1400
-> Motax back wheel cover
-> Phillips H4 Xenon light
-> 2 motorcycles speakers+amplifier+remote
-> Integrated Hugel GPS+MP3 player in the ''glove box''
-> Kawasaki Top Case
-> Cee Baleys Screen
-> Akrapovich Silencer

virginiajim

Murphskits.com in the US, but he doesn't carry them anymore.
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badaboum

French 2008 GTR 1400
-> Motax back wheel cover
-> Phillips H4 Xenon light
-> 2 motorcycles speakers+amplifier+remote
-> Integrated Hugel GPS+MP3 player in the ''glove box''
-> Kawasaki Top Case
-> Cee Baleys Screen
-> Akrapovich Silencer

ChrisB

Robinsons of Rochdale tell me the TPMs have been reduced to £85 +vat from £185, is this true?

badaboum

On the internet it is shill showing :

21176
211760746
SENSOR,TPMS 434MHZ
£ 154.46
€ 176.08
$ 256.40

If you can get those at 85 pounds I'll be pretty happy  :banana: :banana:
French 2008 GTR 1400
-> Motax back wheel cover
-> Phillips H4 Xenon light
-> 2 motorcycles speakers+amplifier+remote
-> Integrated Hugel GPS+MP3 player in the ''glove box''
-> Kawasaki Top Case
-> Cee Baleys Screen
-> Akrapovich Silencer

Ant


badaboum

Thanks

What about the size that I should pick?

Cheers
French 2008 GTR 1400
-> Motax back wheel cover
-> Phillips H4 Xenon light
-> 2 motorcycles speakers+amplifier+remote
-> Integrated Hugel GPS+MP3 player in the ''glove box''
-> Kawasaki Top Case
-> Cee Baleys Screen
-> Akrapovich Silencer

Kwikasfuki

Quote from: badaboum on March 02, 2016, 12:52:54 PM
Thanks

What about the size that I should pick?

Cheers

According to the table on the site, Kawasaki are 11.3
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badaboum

Great

I haven't seen a table on their website

virginiajim can you confirm the diameter before I order?

Cheers
French 2008 GTR 1400
-> Motax back wheel cover
-> Phillips H4 Xenon light
-> 2 motorcycles speakers+amplifier+remote
-> Integrated Hugel GPS+MP3 player in the ''glove box''
-> Kawasaki Top Case
-> Cee Baleys Screen
-> Akrapovich Silencer

virginiajim

Forgive me...diameter of what?
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