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Started by Bryn, April 10, 2014, 01:02:06 PM

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Bryn


Burchy

The "slow" rider didn't cause the crash.  It was the twat undertaking that was at fault IMO
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Richard


Lonewolf

I bet that  :censored:  hurt. Undoubtedly the riders fault who failed to judge the speed of the traffic in front of them.

Zebedee


Quote from: Burchy on April 10, 2014, 01:13:44 PM
The "slow" rider didn't cause the crash.  It was the twat undertaking that was at fault IMO
+1 from me


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Zebedee

Bryn

Probably posted by a mate of the twat that barrelled into the back of the other bike.. hence the bias as to blame  :rolleyes:

Ant

Aren't the majority of accidents caused by lack of concentration and inexperience ???

Are you sure in wasn't that Sanderson's brother from the Cat and Fiddle smash ?

Winston Smith

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Potnoodle

I've watched that video a few times now and put myself on all three bikes in my head! I am with the opinion that maybe the slow rider didn't cause the crash , the person that slammed the anchors on from speed was the camera bike, the slow rider had room to the right of him but used poor judgement/ observations maybe neither as the other two bikes were going so fast. The bike that seems to be under taking was actually just using the longest braking line as in the bike farthest away from him.
The camera bike had room to go through that gap but braked very heavy, hence the trailing bike taking the inside line.
Obviously this is one of those situations where a combination of factors has caused mayhem and I wouldn't jump up and down on any of those riders for their actions. If your looking for the root cause of this accident it is speed and reaction time so let's not demonize any of those probably quite traumatized riders.
I've never been one for advocating a speed limit on the IOM, TT Sunday but to stop this kind of thing it's the only real option.

beegee

Blindness...?

The street is no racetrack ...
Anyway, bad evidence  against the second `pilot`...
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nightrider

When they where doing 80-90ish you are ok then the speed shot up to 130  that's where you are In trouble if you come across other traffic on a narrow road , the second bike is wanting to keep up but does not have a clear as view as the lead bike , high speed on narrow roads is always  very dangerous  :2guns:

coman37

You can NEVER blame the slower rider. If you want to travel at 100+ mph ( and I do, I am not anti speeding) it is your responsibility to ensure that your proposed route is clear for the the speed you are travelling at. You have to be responsible for your own actions, whatever happened to the maxim of expect the unexpected

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Debs

I think the blame is on both sides.. The slow rider didn't check his mirror to see the faster bikes coming up, plus the rider who went in the back of him didn't judge his own stopping distance very well.

Boomer

Definitely the fault of the rider who tail ended the slower bike.
Too fast for the conditions as evidenced by the fact that he could not stop in time to avoid the collision.
What would he have done if the car pulled out to avoid something on the road?
Additionally, the camera bike managed to slow to avoid the collision so why couldn't he?

If you hit someone from behind it's your fault unless you can prove otherwise,... and that's not easy.
I hope they are both Ok but given that impact I suspect both were at best hospitalised.

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tapps

Quote from: Debs on April 11, 2014, 12:42:47 PM
I think the blame is on both sides.. The slow rider didn't check his mirror to see the faster bikes coming up, plus the rider who went in the back of him didn't judge his own stopping distance very well.

totally agree.