Hello and my first question.

[Ant]

    from South Lincs

[viper]

Viper - It's the CTX he doesn't like.  STX1300 is sometimes used for the Pan European

er, oh oops, a senior moment there from viper towers.

[viper]

Thanks for the welcomes and feedbacks guys.

Yes, been riding 34 years now, the last 12 on 1300cc Pans, but all Honda's from a crunch (C70) to a Blackbird, with the exception of a Kwacker KH100 stinky two-stroke (ring ding ding). Currently do 8-10K miles a year sampling bacon sarnies at various destinations and as a Senior Observer with my local IAM Group ( or  depending on your point of view  ).

Username = STX1300
Abomination = CTX1300 

The STX1300 was/is the official designation of what most people call a Pan, or a Pan European, or just plain ST1300 (in the USA).



I'm looking forward to my time on a GTR which from the test rides I have is a cross between a Blackbird and a Pan. 

welcome aboard and great to see you are still with us. Looking forward to hearing your views on the gtr v the pan , especially as i really fancy the pan .

[Charlie747]

welcome aboard and great to see you are still with us. Looking forward to hearing your views on the gtr v the pan , especially as i really fancy the pan .

Mr Wolf.....  Mr Wolf..... Mutiny in the camp again

[viper]

Mr Wolf.....  Mr Wolf..... Mutiny in the camp again

whats the time mr wolf? mutiny time

seriously tho, i did test drive the current pan ahead of buying the Gtr, I couldnt fault the Pan in terms of comfort , handling and general touring ability. Doesnt win any beauty pagents but neither does the Gtr. I found the feel of the v4 a bit strange but id get used to that.
all in all a very credible bike, i went for the gtr because it had the x factor.

[Charlie747]

whats the time mr wolf? mutiny time

seriously tho, i did test drive the current pan ahead of buying the Gtr, I couldnt fault the Pan in terms of comfort , handling and general touring ability. Doesnt win any beauty pagents but neither does the Gtr. I found the feel of the v4 a bit strange but id get used to that.
all in all a very credible bike, i went for the gtr because it had the x factor.

I truly hope Mr Honda is not going to replace the Pan with that CTX thing   

[Lonewolf]

Confession time Charlie, I also looked at a Pan before I bought my first GTR. My wife was with me, she has no interest whatsoever in bikes, she didn't like the look of the Pan, I told her I'd been looking at a GTR and showed her a photo, her actual words and I quote, "THAT LOOKS NICE, WHY DONT YOU BUY IT".

Well it goes without saying I always do as I'm told.   

[O.C.]

I truly hope Mr Honda is not going to replace the Pan with that CTX thing   

It doesn't matter to me what Honda do (why would it) I've thought for quite some time that Honda R&D/Design has lost the plot and in my opinion the CTX serves to confirm that view. 

[Boomer]

I'm looking forward to my time on a GTR which from the test rides I have is a cross between a Blackbird and a Pan. 

Welcome aboard,
All my friends describe the GTR as a VRF800 on Steroids.
On friend spent ages telling me how crap shaft drives were.
Eventually I goaded him into taking a test ride and he came back gushing about the power and the handling and the total lack of shaft reaction.

I never got on with the STs. My legs are too long and my knees hit the fairing on the ST1100.
The 1300 was a bit better but still not comfy for me,...... and then I saw one without the panniers and lost my lunch.
I always ride without panniers unless they are absolutely needed.