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Started by BigAlan, December 08, 2013, 06:16:51 PM

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BigAlan

I am not that happy with the way my GTR runs low down when commuting between 20mph and up to 50mph in either normal mode or economy, so I have emailed Geoff at Hilltop Motorcycles in Leicestershire who have been recommended by many people to book it in for a remap of the ECU.

It's done 13k and will report back after the deed has been done.

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

Bryn

Geoff did mine for me last year... it'll make a change for him not to be doing GS's ....  Just so you know him, here's his doppleganger   :wink:


BigAlan

Did he do your GTR and if so how did it turn out?

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

Bryn

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Quote from: BigAlan on December 08, 2013, 07:49:23 PM
Did he do your GTR and if so how did it turn out?

Alan
Yes it was the GTR....only dyno'd after the remap though... 149 at the back wheel....flies pulled at the same time ...nice and turbine smooth.... Still good mpg as well. ( remus Okami fitted too)


BigAlan

Booked in at Hilltop for next Tuesday morning, can't wait for them to work there magic.

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

Nix1.4

Yeah, I know should ask the man himself, but, when Geoff does the remap and fly pulling business (ooh err missus) does it f**k up the TC?
I have a Delkevic pipe fitted, and I do notice a slight hesitancy on occasions, but can't complain about the (lack of?) power, of course it'd make for a great enhancement to have more grunt, but not at the expense of the arse end getting too frisky! and yeah, I do know the throttle goes both ways, but it's reassuring to have TC, especially with my shitty Avons  :smiley:

Bryn

Can't see how it can affect the TC... the secondary butterflies just restrict the flow of air lower down the rev range, and open up as the rpm goes up..... I'm no expert but the difference is that it makes the engine produce more torque from lower down......

I had my Triumph Explorer re-mapped by Geoff... and it didn't affect the Traction Control

Debs

Don't the GTR have enough power for you Power rangers   :mfr_lol:

BigAlan

Quote from: Debs on December 11, 2013, 05:24:42 PM
Don't the GTR have enough power for you Power rangers   :mfr_lol:


It has plenty, but I want to map the system to give me the optimum acceleration and smoothness it currently does not have, it's got snatchy on the throttle and even though it's done 13k miles I want it spot on so the main man will get his hands on it and work his magic.

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

pistole

Quote from: BigAlan on December 11, 2013, 10:17:24 PMit's got snatchy on the throttle

Hi. mine was very snatchy too. The off-on approach of the throttle at small openings was very very irritating and you always tensed waiting for the inevitable surge as you cracked opened the throttle , just when you want the bike to be smooth and unbothered (eg , mid corner past the apex).

solved it by taking ALL the slack out of the throttle cables.

Don't bother with what the manual says (ie , that 2 mm slack) , just take ALL the slack out.

Now , zero to low throttle openings are silky smooth. Esp useful at corner exits.

and the secondary butterflies (according to the literature) are part of the GTR's repertoire of traction control interventions.

.

BigAlan

Ok so back from Hilltop Motorcycles after my re-map, so before any work was done my bike produced 126.14bhp at 8628 rpm with 87.33ft/lb at 6002 rpm.

After it's 151.48bhp at 8884rpm with 101ft/lb at 6183rpm..

It was running lean all up the rev range as well, now after Geoff has done his work I can honestly say it runs so much smoother right from pulling away, when going through the gears and *cough* at the higher end of the speed range! it has removed loads of vibrations I was having and feels like a different bike.

Ok at £360 for a couple of hours work you might say that's expensive but it has transformed the bike from one I was beginning not to like to one I am not selling.

If in doubt, do it.

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

jonathan

Does he reflash the OEM ECU or is he programming a Power Commander?

Burchy

25 RWBHP for 360 sounds a good deal to me  You pay more than that just for a PC5, let alone setting it up
2025 Versys1100SE<br />1993 ZXR400<br />1991 ZXR750R<br />1979 GS850G

BigAlan

Quote from: jonathan on December 17, 2013, 02:29:42 PM
Does he reflash the OEM ECU or is he programming a Power Commander?


Everything is done by your original ECU, no power commander or any other extra aids, what i can say it has transformed the bike.

Alan
Ducati owner now but I used to have a Black one, the fastest version.
Previous, Sprint ST (2), VFR 800, Fireblade's (4) SP1, VTR1000, GPZ900, CB250, BSA Bantam D14/4, Suzuki TS100, SX200.

nightrider

Had mine done ,fitted power commander , done on a rolling road , now has 155bhp. And 106 /1b.   Now goes like it should ,,,,,,,