GMP Officers .... RIP.

[pistole]

If the two female officers had of been armed , they would have still been killed, he was waiting in ambush and their weapons would not have been drawn just walking to the door.

- thats open to debate. Armed officers responding to a dwelling type situation have their SOPs , just as they do during a traffic stop.

- it would appear , though unkindly so , that these two officers were probably just plain unexperienced and terribly unlucky. Bad combination.

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[Lonewolf]

Pistole, perhaps not intended but I actually find your last paragraph above quite offensive. A little bit of sensitivity wouldnt go amiss.

[pistole]

- indeed , do apologize if its offensive to others reading here.

- i remember reading that throughout man's history at warfare , lessons were usually learnt , but learnt in a negative fashion. Namely where many men died fighting is a certain manner or fashion , lessons were learnt and adopted to avoid a similar fate for their fellow soldiers.

- hence these purveyors of death on the battlefield slowly became very regimented in the way they did things , hence things like fighting manuals , etc.

- same thing with people who live their lives enforcing the law. When enough of your men/women get killed in unfortunate circumstances , it behoves the powers that be to learn from these occasions and maybe develop new ways to handle such situations. Training makes permanent , training doesn't make perfect.

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[Boomer]

Apparently one of the officers tried to use her Tazer but didn't manage to.

I was in Manchester yesterday for work and the Police are in HIGH visibility/presence mode.
I spoke to some of the people I was working with and they are all sick to the teeth of the gang wars and other shit going down up there but are too frightened to make a stand.

A sad and stupid waste of life.
Looks like they have the scumbag(s) but that won't help those poor womens families, friends and collegues.

If any of you have ever read "The Truth Machine" by James L Halperin, then now would be a good time to start introducing "Swift & Sure".