Kipass - Duplicate Key For Panniers/Fuel Cap

[pistole]

- is there any issue with getting a duplicate key made for the pannier/fuel cap ?

- Want to have the key easily accessible during fuel/rest stops without needing to dig out the fob to extract the key.

- thanks

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[Kwikasfuki]

No issues at all. Your local locksmith should be able to cut one

[tommytool]

There shouldnt be. I had the same problem when riding the bike back from seller last sunday. Got to a petrol station and spent 10 minutes finding the fob in my jacket, removing the key etc etc When I get time Ill go to a cutter with the spare key and get 2 cut.
(Still cant work out when the glove box thing unlocks itself - mind you Ive only spent a couple of hours with the bike so far). 

[mecki]

So why do you need a fourth key? 
I always use the 3rd key that came with the bike. You know the one in the little black plastic case?  ?

[mecki]

(Still cant work out when the glove box thing unlocks itself - mind you Ive only spent a couple of hours with the bike so far).

It will only unlock when the ignition is turned on. 

[tommytool]

cheers for that - I dont want to rely on the spare key in the black thing as there is a chip inside the case to start the bike if the FOB doesnt work - (I think) Dont want to lose that so duplicate key was my thinking.

[mecki]

cheers for that - I dont want to rely on the spare key in the black thing as there is a chip inside the case to start the bike if the FOB doesnt work - (I think) Dont want to lose that so duplicate key was my thinking.

Well, that is another reason why I always have it in my jacket pocket together with the top case key.
It'll even fit in your wallet.
What good is it at home if the fob should decide to pack it in a thousand miles away?   

[pistole]

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There shouldnt be. I had the same problem when riding the bike back from seller last sunday. Got to a petrol station and spent 10 minutes finding the fob in my jacket, removing the key etc etc When I get time Ill go to a cutter with the spare key and get 2 cut

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- hi. The same thing occurred to me.

- will cut a spare key , and keep it somewhere convenient for easy use during fuel/rest stops , without having to worry too much about what to do if that key is lost/misplaced.

- I don't carry the spare (emergency fob) key. That one is kept at home. If the primary fob's batt dies, the bike can still be started by mating the cut-out of the primary fob with the tab portion on the barrel.

- if I lose the primary fob altogether during the ride , well , I only have myself to blame then (hence the warning in the manual to check for the presence of the fob BEFORE shutting down the bike).

- if i have read the manual correctly , once the engine is already running , the bike will not shut down even if the fob is lost (though you will see the warning on the dash "NO TRANSPONDER"). Hence the warning to check for the fob before shutting down the engine.

- If so, there is even more reason to have duplicate keys cut for the pannier/fuel to enable you to get fuel and get home (by not shutting down the engine) even if your fob is lost.

- of course Mecki is correct that if you lose your primary fob and have shut down your engine , you're sunk unless you have the spare fob on hand. This i feel is where our KiPass is not well thought out, cf the HD system which has a specific turn-signal-button-sequence which allows for the bike to start without the presence of the fob.

- I hope my understanding of the above is right , and welcome any correction/suggestion here.

Thanks.

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[O.C.]

I keep the transponder iun my bike jacket which is always with me when riding

Spare keys can be cut by Timpsons on the high street, and they are a bit larger than the spare supplied with the bike and therefore easier to use with gloves etc.,

My spare key is on a neck cord around my neck which is also always with me when riding 

[Ubertours]

Why not just use the key in the ignition?

[viper]

having a spare key cut is a great idea , i keep it on the same ring as my topbox key, transponder in my bike jacket , spare black key in the wingmans jacket , both on lanyards within the pockets, we aint taking no chances .

[100milesaway]

Pistole,  Unless I am mistaken I think your understanding of the fobs is a little awry. My understanding is that It's the spare fob (black thing) that will start the bike when held against the tab on the barrel, and not the main fob as you state. Which in my opinion makes it essential that you carry the spare (black thing) at all times, just in case the main fob is lost, or damaged. Also regarding re-fueling, I dont understand all this "I must have another key cut " nonsense, for when I need to open the tank, just take the main fob out, and use that, I'ts only like taking an ordinary key out so what is everyones problem?. I do as Roger does and always carry the spare on a lanyard around my neck.

[viper]

Pistole,  Unless I am mistaken I think your understanding of the fobs is a little awry. My understanding is that It's the spare fob (black thing) that will start the bike when held against the tab on the barrel, and not the main fob as you state. Which in my opinion makes it essential that you carry the spare (black thing) at all times, just in case the main fob is lost, or damaged. Also regarding re-fueling, I dont understand all this "I must have another key cut " nonsense, for when I need to open the tank, just take the main fob out, and use that, I'ts only like taking an ordinary key out so what is everyones problem?. I do as Roger does and always carry the spare on a lanyard around my neck.

i think some owners , like me, are worried about losing the main black fob and taking it out of your pocket and removing the little key for panniers and fuel is just tempting fate, for the sake of £4 to get another pannier /fuel key cut means that the main black fob can stay inside the jacket on a lanyard and never  be removed . We have all lost and bent bike   keys and id rather lose my timpsons copy than the kawasaki specific  key that slots into the main fob

just my 2cents

[100milesaway]

i think some owners , like me, are worried about losing the main black fob and taking it out of your pocket and removing the little key for panniers and fuel is just tempting fate, for the sake of £4 to get another pannier /fuel key cut means that the main black fob can stay inside the jacket on a lanyard and never  be removed . We have all lost and bent bike   keys and id rather lose my timpsons copy than the kawasaki specific  key that slots into the main fob

just my 2cents

Sorry Viper I didn't explain myself all that well. When re-fueling I didn't mean the main fob, I meant the main ignition key. I also keep the main fob in my inside pocket, and it never moves from one week to another.

[viper]

ah the cooker knob, that never leaves its slot, the way ive got my sat nav fitted its a bit fiddly removing it, plus ive got a key less fuel  cap.