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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by 2kwacks on April 19, 2020, 03:44:07 pm »
Had 2 b.m.w R1200's first was the 2016 r1200 GS TE model and covered 9,000 miles on it 3,200 miles of that was on a Europe tour over 10 days and found it to be excellent at touring and managed to keep up with the Supersports in the twisties and motorways.. then p/x it for the 2018 R1200 GS triple black did a few long weekends and many long ride outs and found the servicing costs from b.m.w dealers to be similar on price with various other bike manufactures service costs.

I decided to go back to the zzr1400 performance sport as I did miss the acceleration that the zzr1400 was capable of as I did miss burning my mate off on his Hayabusa lol... also had the 2013 versys 1000 and did a few Cornwall and Scotland trips and found it to be a excellent all-rounder and only sold it to help fund a new car purchase which I sold to a member on this forum. Kawasaki have also vastly improved the new model versys 1000 and although they are near the £15,000 mark for the top of the range model you do get a lot of bike for the money.

if I was to choose between the new model versys 1000 tourer and the b.m.w R1200 or R1250 GS then I think I would have some sleepless nights.. having said that..  the adventure style bikes have come a long way with technology and popularity with the choice of the Triumph tiger/k.t.m/v-strom/Africa twin/Super Tenere and the Multistrada most likely wouldn't get any sleep at all.
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by PRD on February 12, 2020, 09:26:34 pm »
Enjoy.
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by aljaxon on February 12, 2020, 08:23:27 pm »
well ive finally done it and traded my gtr caf in for a 2018 z1000sx. i rode to view it  on the gtr  and i tried to move it to upright off its sidestand perch and was amazed how light it was. that was it, i was sold. ive often missed a turning on the gtr  and gone on for up to 4 miles looking for somewhere to turn around or find another route.
i have avoided riding the big old dumpling the last couple of years of my 7 year ownership purely because i fear dropping it whilst manoevering it at slow speed.

80 kgs lighter which is 12 stone!!!! i was actually buzzing after id made the deal.

i loved the gtrs luggage space but might not miss it so much

youre not supposed to put top box and panniers on with a pillion on the new kawaskis -think the total recommended weight of pillion plus luggage is 200kgs?
well my wife is tiny and so her lack of pounds = 1 top box. plus ive gone for givis 37 litres. i do like throwing my bikes around, i once arrived at willy woods with tyres blistered to the edges like on a track day on the gtr but you had to keep remembering when hammering the gtr that it took a lot more stopping.
bought it 2 yrs old for £8k plus and just sold it for £5250 so ive had my moneys worth and i will always remember it for good reasons as well as bad. (got done last year 111mph in a 70!!! )
fantastic quality of paintwork apart from one tiny over enthusiastically  jet washed rusty bare patch on the frame.
i didnt make any mates on this forum and kept myself to myself but got plenty of help and advice so thanks chaps.
you never know we might meet on the sx forum :censored:
take care y'all


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The Dark Side / Re: The big one.
« Last post by PRD on January 26, 2020, 09:58:03 am »
Price comparisons are useless if you don't like the bike (for whatever reason) being compared. Surely a more useful comparison would be the total service costs over the estimated period of ownership, in years or miles. So a fair comparison might be a BMW/GTR/FTR/moped or whatever your selection, owned from new for 50,000 miles and include all services between 0 and 50k, as in that period some bikes may only need 2 big services and others need 3. Car leasing companies cottoned onto this years ago by ensuring replacing the vehicle at "x" miles when "x" is the service point before the first big one. Bank fleet cars had massive stickers on the dash instructing the user NEVER to exceed 13000 miles without
 contacting their fleet department.
:agree:
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The Dark Side / Re: The big one.
« Last post by Rynglieder on January 26, 2020, 07:43:04 am »
I think people are thinking way too deep into this thread.  :sleep1:

The problem is that when it is cold and wet in January and people are not tempted out on thier bikes, we have too much time to think  :smiley:
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The Dark Side / Re: The big one.
« Last post by Lonewolf on January 25, 2020, 07:29:24 pm »
I think people are thinking way too deep into this thread.  :sleep1:
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The Dark Side / Re: The big one.
« Last post by ChrisB on January 25, 2020, 07:17:06 pm »
Price comparisons are useless if you don't like the bike (for whatever reason) being compared. Surely a more useful comparison would be the total service costs over the estimated period of ownership, in years or miles. So a fair comparison might be a BMW/GTR/FTR/moped or whatever your selection, owned from new for 50,000 miles and include all services between 0 and 50k, as in that period some bikes may only need 2 big services and others need 3. Car leasing companies cottoned onto this years ago by ensuring replacing the vehicle at "x" miles when "x" is the service point before the first big one. Bank fleet cars had massive stickers on the dash instructing the user NEVER to exceed 13000 miles without
 contacting their fleet department.
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The Dark Side / Re: The big one.
« Last post by PRD on January 25, 2020, 01:26:55 pm »
Of course the mileage is important. If a major service has to be carried out earlier then it is more expensive to run. Surely you can see that!
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The Dark Side / Re: The big one.
« Last post by Lonewolf on January 24, 2020, 09:03:19 pm »
.....Or arrange for you baby sister to get a job at a motorcycle dealership.

I planted mine in one over twenty five yaers ago and have been "looked after" as family ever since as long as I book in when the workshop is quiet.

Mind you, four MOTs and all fall in December now.

The GTR passed its first one last month by the way, so all good  :smiley:


Very cunning and devious, but highly effective, I like your style!  :mfr_lol:
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The Dark Side / Re: The big one.
« Last post by Lonewolf on January 24, 2020, 09:02:15 pm »
A third of 18 is 6 therefore you donít have to pay for a big service for another 6 thousand miles on a GTR. Must be more economical then.


The mileage is not the element Iím comparing, it was the cost of the major service which is virtually almost identical making both bikes affordable to own and maintain.



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