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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by mcfroyce44 on April 17, 2019, 09:31:21 pm »
If it's just solo use,  you might consider a Triumph Tiger 1050. 3 box luggage is,  IMHO,  big enough for one person.  If you're going to have a pillion, then the bike's a bit too cramped and the luggage too small.

Bike weighs in about 200kgs.
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by PaulB on April 15, 2019, 03:09:46 pm »
... but the 142 horses of the z1000 sx combined with the mere 235 kg weight (80kg lighter than our gtr!!!) sold it to me.

... weird how a lot of touring bikes nowadays only have small panniers and  no top boxes?

Like the Z1000SX? A fantastic machine, and may even be considered a sports-tourer, but it is definitely more sports than tourer, imho.

Cheers

Paul B.
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by aljaxon on April 13, 2019, 10:54:45 pm »
I was a bit concerned when Yamaha say they don't recommend using a top box with the tracer 900 as it would make the bike too unstable

on youtube I liked some foreign dudes versys test ride (complete with wheelies!!) but the 142 horses of the z1000 sx combined with the mere 235 kg weight (80kg lighter than our gtr!!!) sold it to me.

up until 12 yrs ago I was a dyed in the wool Yamaha fan. but the gtr and my pld zx6r have weaned me onto Kawasaki. hence my zx9r also added a while back.
my 9 yr old gtr has two rusty bolt heads and some brake dust on the front wheels and that's it. a few swirls/ scratches on the paintwork but its in vg condition, almost in spite of my ownership - ok - only 7000 miles in 5 years. but then again ive owned at least 4 bikes since 2010 and 6 atm.  but the build quality is amazing.

weird how a lot of touring bikes nowadays only have small panniers and  no top boxes?
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by flatfour on April 13, 2019, 12:02:47 pm »
My brother briefly owned a Tracer 900 with full luggage fitted (probably the GT?) and found it quite unsuitable for his relatively gentle riding style. It also suffered quite a few gremlins from new and, as he said when he tried my Versys 1000, it was everything that he hoped the Tracer would be, though too heavy for him (he has back injuries through a lifetime of competitive sports).

The Tracer was very fast, everything shook when on the move as it was so lightly made, and the throttle was like a gun trigger!

He only kept it for a year (even by my brother's standards that is quite a short period) before P/X called against a new Triumph.

Whilst his might have been an isolated case, it was certainly not a comfortable touring bike.
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by O.C. on April 13, 2019, 11:43:48 am »
thanks for input chaps, I was drawn to the versys 1000 only thing was lack of litres in luggage
I thin though if I could live with the lack of space then the tracer 900 gt might be worth considering
but then I saw a z100sx for sale and quite fancy one of those now.

Luggage on the 1000SX is identical to the Versys and H2 variants  :yes: plus you cannot use top box and panniers together on the 1000SX it is one or the other... although Givi may have an option which could be worth checking   :smiley:     

As I think I said before the luggage space is better than it looks
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by aljaxon on April 13, 2019, 11:18:38 am »
thanks for input chaps, I was drawn to the versys 1000 only thing was lack of litres in luggage
I thin though if I could live with the lack of space then the tracer 900 gt might be worth considering
but then I saw a z100sx for sale and quite fancy one of those now.
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by O.C. on April 12, 2019, 05:03:51 pm »
Every forum that I have been a member of (and there have been many, in fact there is still about 6 in which I still very actively participate) has brand specific models as its main theme, obviously it is only correct that other brands and models are discussed, that is what forums are about and is to be welcomed.

This forum does however seem experience a high (ish) level of BMW support from some quarters including the Kawasaki GTR 1400 Global moderator, its a akin to a global moderator of the Yamaha FJR forum extolling the virtues of, shall we say, the Africa Twin, ....... it's bound to become tiresome to Kawasaki owners  eventually 

I have absolutely no objection to other brands being discussed on this forum, in fact I find it enlightening and enjoyable, however things seem to have become out of proportion.  :nono:   Surely it's time to calm down and behave in a more rational manner

I have noticed, as I'm sure others have that this forum has become very quiet at times, perhaps that is because the GTR is now no longer part of Kawasaki's model line up and is therefore no longer the 'flagship' of the range...............  I suspect that the forum may well become even quieter as time passes, which is a great shame

I no longer own a GTR 1400, for well documented reasons, but still have a massive affection for the old girl, so, I have now moved on to a different model within the Kawasaki line up, and I'm very happy that I have done so  :smiley:   
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by PRD on April 12, 2019, 04:33:41 pm »
If the bike is just for yourself, I'd suggest looking at the Versys 650 or Suzuki SV650, both very capable touring bikes and have toured in our group on many occasions, Ron is 83 years young and chucks the SV around like a GP rider when he wants too, not the fastest o-100 but certainly capable of riding comfortably in a group.
both excellent bikes.
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by PRD on April 12, 2019, 04:22:04 pm »
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by Lonewolf on April 12, 2019, 03:25:36 pm »
look at the forum plenty of reports about poor BMW experiences in recent times. As I recall several in the thread you removed due to intimidation fears!


Look at which forum? Look at a Kawasaki forum for praise and compliments for another make of bike, are you really that naive? I removed the other thread which you refer to due to your incessant, relentless goading and tedious negative comments of anyone elseís choice of bike which doesnít match yours. I shall remind you that three previous regular visitors to this forum, no longer visit, (to the detriment of the forum) because they found your input regarding BMW irratating to the point of frustration.


We all have different requirements, finances and expectations from our bikes, Iíve tried a few bikes over the last ten years approximately ranging from two Honda CB1300ís, a Yamaha XJR1300, two GTRís, a BMW K1600 and more recently two BMW GS Adventures.


I really donít understand your constant vendetta be it against either me and/or BMW. If you donít like me, donít engage with me, if you donít like BMW, fair enough everyone has opinions but you really do not need to ram your opinions down the throats of others with the persistence which you do so regularly.


The End!  :sweatdrop:
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