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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by zedmeister on April 23, 2019, 09:08:01 pm »
I changed from a GTR to an SX 4 years ago because i had a Knee issue and the GTR was 305kg and the SX 230kg. I was lucky enough to have corrective surgery and my Knee is now good as New hence my return to the GTR. i would have kept the SX no problem if i could have fitted a Top box as well as the panniers but as stated you can't have both together. Believe me the SX is an awesome bike and THB it will leave the GTR for Dead its a very quick and capable bike a true all rounder. It can scratch with the power rangers and tour with the bigger boys, i really liked the SX, having said that it's no GTR.

Negatives

Seat is not the best quite Hard until bedded in, then only good for most 150 miles.
Maximum 45 MPG being careful
limited storage space and awkward pannier design ( exactly same panniers as Versys )
Chain Drive

Positives

Lots of power goes like a scalded cat
3 selectable power modes
Reasonable New purchase price
Holds good residual value
Adjustable screen
Looks Good
Mega Grin Factor

Depending on your tastes i would go for the SX against a Versys, having said that i am Biased because i have only ridden a Versys Once and it was not my style of Bike at the time however the new one looks the dogs danglies. The versys is a tall bike ( 840mm - 25mm taller than the SX ) and i did not feel as though i was balanced on it at a standstill more tip toe than flat foot, but Horses for Courses.
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by Lonewolf on April 23, 2019, 07:54:53 pm »
Little Oscar looks absolutely knackered!
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by nightrider on April 23, 2019, 05:49:11 pm »
Had a sit on one in Jns at Doncaster it look and feel nice to sit on , seemed to be a big price difference between that bling one and the cheaper one ,  :biker3:
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by Rusty on April 23, 2019, 08:45:44 am »
Thats nice Roger  :yes:
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by O.C. on April 22, 2019, 11:42:43 am »
My Versys 1000 GT SE

 
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by mcfroyce44 on April 17, 2019, 09:31:21 pm »
If it's just solo use,  you might consider a Triumph Tiger 1050. 3 box luggage is,  IMHO,  big enough for one person.  If you're going to have a pillion, then the bike's a bit too cramped and the luggage too small.

Bike weighs in about 200kgs.
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by PaulB on April 15, 2019, 03:09:46 pm »
... but the 142 horses of the z1000 sx combined with the mere 235 kg weight (80kg lighter than our gtr!!!) sold it to me.

... weird how a lot of touring bikes nowadays only have small panniers and  no top boxes?

Like the Z1000SX? A fantastic machine, and may even be considered a sports-tourer, but it is definitely more sports than tourer, imho.

Cheers

Paul B.
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by aljaxon on April 13, 2019, 10:54:45 pm »
I was a bit concerned when Yamaha say they don't recommend using a top box with the tracer 900 as it would make the bike too unstable

on youtube I liked some foreign dudes versys test ride (complete with wheelies!!) but the 142 horses of the z1000 sx combined with the mere 235 kg weight (80kg lighter than our gtr!!!) sold it to me.

up until 12 yrs ago I was a dyed in the wool Yamaha fan. but the gtr and my pld zx6r have weaned me onto Kawasaki. hence my zx9r also added a while back.
my 9 yr old gtr has two rusty bolt heads and some brake dust on the front wheels and that's it. a few swirls/ scratches on the paintwork but its in vg condition, almost in spite of my ownership - ok - only 7000 miles in 5 years. but then again ive owned at least 4 bikes since 2010 and 6 atm.  but the build quality is amazing.

weird how a lot of touring bikes nowadays only have small panniers and  no top boxes?
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by flatfour on April 13, 2019, 12:02:47 pm »
My brother briefly owned a Tracer 900 with full luggage fitted (probably the GT?) and found it quite unsuitable for his relatively gentle riding style. It also suffered quite a few gremlins from new and, as he said when he tried my Versys 1000, it was everything that he hoped the Tracer would be, though too heavy for him (he has back injuries through a lifetime of competitive sports).

The Tracer was very fast, everything shook when on the move as it was so lightly made, and the throttle was like a gun trigger!

He only kept it for a year (even by my brother's standards that is quite a short period) before P/X called against a new Triumph.

Whilst his might have been an isolated case, it was certainly not a comfortable touring bike.
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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« Last post by O.C. on April 13, 2019, 11:43:48 am »
thanks for input chaps, I was drawn to the versys 1000 only thing was lack of litres in luggage
I thin though if I could live with the lack of space then the tracer 900 gt might be worth considering
but then I saw a z100sx for sale and quite fancy one of those now.

Luggage on the 1000SX is identical to the Versys and H2 variants  :yes: plus you cannot use top box and panniers together on the 1000SX it is one or the other... although Givi may have an option which could be worth checking   :smiley:     

As I think I said before the luggage space is better than it looks
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