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The Dark Side / Re: alternative bike
« on: April 07, 2019, 07:19:28 pm »
Yep Versys 1000

absolutely correct,  it really is a no brainer,  but don't take my word for it, book yourself a test ride 

The Dark Side / Re: My new steed.
« on: January 21, 2019, 07:06:44 pm »
If I didn't know better I'd say you are slightly biased Dave     :mfr_lol:   

The Dark Side / Re: My new steed.
« on: December 10, 2018, 09:28:03 pm »
I saw the new Versys 1000 at the NEC show, well as much as can be seen at that show.......however a visit to my local dealer this weekend gave me the opportunity to view the 'basic' model in great detail, and it is spectacular

I have ordered a top of the range SE Grand Tourer which will bd available in February /March 2019.... the specification is far too much to list....AMAZING  !  I cant wait   

The Dark Side / Re: My new steed.
« on: December 09, 2018, 07:46:23 pm »
sad days!

The Versys1000 shouldn't be overlooked,  it meets all the touring requirements,  I have had 4 GTRs and loved every one of them, but the big Versys is outstanding. .....I have owned two..........and have just ordered my third which features aĺ the latest technology,  an amazing bike....

Oh and before anyone starts whinging about chain drive being high maintenance, it isn't,  it is easy to manage and neither messy or inconvenient. Modern chains are long lasting, quiet and very reliable   :yes:     

The Dark Side / Re: GTR to H2 SX
« on: June 26, 2018, 07:41:44 am »
A good friend of mine has bought an H2 SX SE Performance from Orrell.

As soon as I get my sweaty mits on it Iíll post up some pics ( although always had trouble posting images) as well as some comparisons.

Hopefully sometime in April  :smiley:

Well.... have you got it yet ? 

The Dark Side / Re: Farewell
« on: May 31, 2018, 08:56:48 pm »
WOW the KTM is a very different bike to the GTR1400, but I'm sure you will enjoy it very much

Don't become a stranger to this forum    :smiley:   

The Dark Side / Re: Auf Wiedersehen GTR
« on: April 20, 2018, 07:51:17 pm »
good luck and many happy miles with your new bike cloudwalker ,  enjoy and ride safe   :clap:   

The Dark Side / Re: GTR to H2 SX
« on: February 23, 2018, 06:57:45 pm »
well done and congratulations,   I hope you enjoy many miles and many smiles aboard your new bike

Maybe you can post some pictures when it arrives  ?   

The Dark Side / Re: Williams Manchester
« on: December 08, 2017, 07:39:04 am »
I know that is some months ago now but I,m pretty sure you didn't get a reply to your E mail .... am I am correct ?
BMW will always sell enough bikes whatever their attitude which is why they very rarely or don't have to give discounts etc ...  :yes:

Like other manufacturers BMW are offering some 'attractive' PCP deals at the moment  :yes:

The Dark Side / Re: After 10 years....
« on: December 08, 2017, 07:37:12 am »

Its the GSA.

Yes I know, the GSA was available as a Triple Black, I thought you would have known that

The Dark Side / Re: After 10 years....
« on: December 07, 2017, 08:51:29 am »

The Dark Side / Re: After 10 years....
« on: December 04, 2017, 10:24:11 am »
That's a very different steed to the GTR, I hope that you enjoy your GSA, and don't forget to let us know how the new relationship develops    :clap:   

The Dark Side / Re: My Darkside...
« on: October 11, 2017, 06:16:59 pm »
You know, the more I ride this bike, the more I like it.   It just feels good.  A tad on the noisy side but as I'm going slowly deaf, that really is not an issue.

Pardon, what's that you say ?    :mfr_lol:   

The Dark Side / Re: Williams Manchester
« on: September 25, 2017, 01:42:49 pm »
Having worked at management level in the franchised motor industry for over 20 years I understand the corporate requirements and the financial penalties imposed by manufacturers for breach of dealer standards. However that does not excuse any member of staff for a poor attitude and the unwillingness of the management team to engage with a customer  or member of the public. Many years ago I used to deal with Benham BMW when it was an independently run BMW dealership with just the one showroom in Wilmslow. The owners built that business on word of mouth and good customer service and relations. It sometimes is not what is done, after all we all answer to someone, but haw it is done. BMWs as products are no better or worse than any other prestige manufacturer, but they do however have one of the best marketing departments in the world.

 :agree:  The same used to be said of the Ford marketing philosophy

The Dark Side / Re: Williams Manchester
« on: September 24, 2017, 10:27:00 am »
Don't blame the staff or the dealership. There will be a BMW Franchise/Dealer Handbook somewhere that tells the Management and staff exactly how their branch should look from the paint codes to the color and intensity of the downlighters, if it doesn't exactly match the "Bible" the Franchise/Dealership will lose valuable discounts/preferential treatment.

There will be either an outside agency or internal mole who will mystery shop all these elements

But they could have been nicer about it and i also dont believe that they wont display in the staff area



I spent 15 years as a manager for a large German car importer and franchise recognition/representation is that all dealers are the same, like KFC & MacDonalds etc., it balances the brand representation in the retail environment.

Some dealers choose to completely observe these requirements to the letter and others have a more relaxed attitude towards it, where blatant non conformity occurs then a manufacturer/importer may well implement costly measures against the 'offending' dealer, I know this to be a fact   :yes:   

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